Mr Smoketoomuch
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A Blueberry from Shanti would be something to see...a Blueberry crossed to any of Shanti's strains would be something to see...careful what you wish for...jay![]()
Sounds good to me...
A Blueberry from Shanti would be something to see...a Blueberry crossed to any of Shanti's strains would be something to see...careful what you wish for...jay![]()
For those of you wondering what a SSH Blueberry cross looks like, I encourage you to look for a strain called Blue Dream...there was some available at the class, and let me tell you it was cream of the crop...I have grown and smoked Blue Dream, and as far as I know it's only available in clone form...having it in seed form, or anything close to it, would be fantastic...one of the best strains I have ever come across...quality smoke with a clear, up high...perfect for taking notes...jay![]()
I like your enthusiasm, bigherb...
I'll ask him as many questions as he will let me...it may take some time, but I should be able to get the answers to a few of your questions...DJ spoke of the African Black Magic a couple of times...when he talks of that cannabis, he's mostly talking about the effect...he described it as an almost instant change in reality...like walking into another world...he compared it to a substance that's supposedly ten times stronger than LSD (I forget the name)...lucid, vivid, instant alternate reality...very trippy sh-t...he said he spoke to a guy who came across it once and he had virtually the same experience with that smoke that DJ had...Short said it might be originally from Kenya, and perhaps to start there if you're looking for it...he's had his eyes and ears open for quite some time and he can't seem to source any beans...he actually encourages people to try to find the genetics themselves...whatever that plant is, it's off the charts as far as sativas go...well worth the hunt, according to him...when I say he's not working with any pure sativas, I mean he's not working on releasing any pure sativas...he's probably working with all kinds of pure sativas somewhere...he knows sativas like the back of his hand...listening to him talk about them is poetry, I swear...I highly doubt he's ever not worked with almost purely sativas...I could be wrong, but that's my feeling on him...he works on releasing plants that other people can grow, but that share characteristics/expressions of those old strains we all love so much...think of his work along the lines of Shanti/Neville creating practical haze hybrids...his plate is full at all times, so I think we're talking loads of projects all going on at the same time...Rose Bud is an old popular variety but is more along the lines of personal headstash as it does not yield very well...I do not know the genetics of that plant but I can ask...Azure Haze, and I'm not sure if he's releasing this or his son is, is a cross of a stellar SSH cut he/they have (which DJ speaks very highly of) with a Blueberry male...he said he was going to call it Sapphire Haze, but he thought that would be too confusing...I know he likes the name Azure...I like that name too...sounds good to me...hope this helps...jay![]()
It was equatorial Black African, the supposed herb of some tribe, Pygmy group, or another equally incredible origin! It was likely an indigenous Central African herb
when I say he's not working with any pure sativas, I mean he's not working on releasing any pure sativas
Rose Bud is an old popular variety but is more along the lines of personal headstash as it does not yield very well...I do not know the genetics of that plant but I can ask...Azure Haze, and I'm not sure if he's releasing this or his son is, is a cross of a stellar SSH cut he/they have (which DJ speaks very highly of) with a Blueberry male
didnt know it was crossed with super silver haze wow!!! Hey Jay This thread is awesome thanks for all that info man major props dude... here is a pic of the blue dream i had my lil paws on
Many thaaanks for sharing man!
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Old Time Moonshine djs gear is work of art!
Thank you very much for taking the time to put up this excellent info.
any discussion on harvest times and percentage of amber/cloudy/clear.
I must agree 100% I love that strain I heard it was a cross with bluebery and haze... I even emailed shanti and asked him what haze would he recommend to cross a blueberry with... Im not in Cali so i was gifted from a friend of a friend who came from out there and brought the samplehe was like it depends how much haze you want he was neville haze is 75% haze and SSH, MH are 50% haze..
i didnt know it was crossed with super silver haze wow!!! Hey Jay This thread is awesome thanks for all that info man major props dude... here is a pic of the blue dream i had my lil paws on.....
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...in our search for the truth may we all grow together...jay![]()
Hello. From what I know, dj still have b133 - mother of OTM. But special sativa male used not more (he add some sativa traits to otm).
Ive read, that sometime may be re-released, but soon will be freshed up Moonshine Rocket Fuel female.
In any case, at autumn will have some F2's. And I think from verrry quality parents... so let me know after outdoor season
BD is very popular and common here in SoCal, but there are obviously a few different cuts going around. Original 'lore' had it that it was clone only and originated up around Santa Cruz, so that sounds like a good place to start a hunt for the cut. The cut I prefer has a loose, haze-ey look to the bud, a slight incense smell, distinctive blue exhale smoke with persistent, sweet 'funk' that hangs in the air
Hello. From what I know, dj still have b133 - mother of OTM. But special sativa male used not more (he add some sativa traits to otm).
Ive read, that sometime may be re-released, but soon will be freshed up Moonshine Rocket Fuel female.
In any case, at autumn will have some F2's. And I think from verrry quality parents... so let me know after outdoor season
Thanks for welcome. Here are few more OTM pics. Also have F-13. Unfortunately rare pheno of F-13 (calyxes instead buds) I have had no more, it was A+++ smoke but very hard2keep/clone (but have simillar reversed hermie male,,, that tutti frutti smell is amazing). Both, OTM and F-13, are top notch but my heart bell for F-13. Sometime I want make bigger selection.
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Once again many thanks for your notes!!! Very good to reading even for me - i cannot speak english much good.
Amen
30x hand-lenses: http://www.indigo.com/magnify/gphmgnfy/triplet-geology-lens.html
Which prompts me to ask; Is 30x REALLY necessary? I've used these before, and as the page says, they have a limited depth of field (to put it mildly) and are bloody hard to use IMO. I guess I'll start a topic on this actually...
i hope he considers re -releasing that line ,keep me posted on those f2's id lov to hear about them
as for blue dream the common story ive come across is its a santa cruz haze crossed to a BB ,im not into fruity strains soo she didnt get my attention until an OT i highly respect told me it was very spicy and powerful also ,then i com across this post BELOW which claims an incense smell now she's got my attention
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its not is an old suppose pure haze from santa cruz crossed to BB
Nice pics, face...so I see that you too have come across the strain Blue Dream...wonderful stuff, that...I've never heard the lineage was anything other than SSH x BB, so I cannot confirm or deny bigherb's comments...either way, it is a strain well worth trying if anyone ever gets the chance...she will not disappoint...jay![]()
Don't sleep on Blue Dream, my friend...this is your wake-up call...that strain is no joke...
If someone passed you a joint of Blue Dream, I gawdamgaranteeyou she will get your attention...in a room full of elite cuts, Blue Dream reigned supreme...jay![]()
DJ also mentioned a book called The Botany of Desire...as luck would have it, I'd just watched the pbs special only days before...it examines the history of four plants...the apple, the potato, cannabis, and the tulip...I found it so enlightening I had to record it...there's an apple breeder somewhere up in New Hampshire that's growing antique apples...rare tulip bulbs used to be worth NY 5th Avenue apartments...potatoes and cannabis both have interesting histories as well...![]()
can you guys imagine crossing a blueberry with one of shanti's hazes wow thats why emailed him asking him he stated i would be more than happy with the NH, MH, or SSH... might be something to look forward too.. maybe call it Neville's Dream hahahah naw but These notes are full of info and Jay many thanks for the priceless info man cheers
One of my favorite strains top 5 for sure man!!! Couldnt agree with ya more man I was praying for a hermie seed in the bag hahahaha J/P