I agree on 24/0 being a bad veg idea...I did this for vegging when I very first started, with an HPS no lessI found my plants grew quicker on 18/6 than they did on 24/0.
Not sure why he feels like the light timing thing is a trade secret...seems a bit silly to me to talk about helping medical users but then lord over the fact that you've found a superior light timing scheme that you're unwilling to disclose.
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I only ever had two light regimes, 24 hour and 12. Never had problems.
N.
I remember your post on that '69 haze stock first female you had from the first batch you planted, that flowered for 9+ months and never really did finish.Nevil said:I only ever had two light regimes, 24 hour and 12. Never had problems.
N.
I believe it might have flowered quite faster and more profoundly with 11/13 , 10/14 , 9/15 etc and would finish much earlier.Nevil said:It didn't have much resin and after 9 months flowering, with no end in sight, I chopped it. It seem the most impractical plant I'd ever grown. I didn't keep a cutting.
From what I understand the only advantage with 24/0 is that you give more light per day so you get faster growth per day. So basically faster daily growth rates.
But to get same amount of biomass to be produced I believe it takes about the same energy used for lighting no matter how you spread it over time.
As far as veg cycles go I dont really use 24/0 often but mostly give a dark cycle. I ve heard about the possible negative impacts on the plant from the constant lights on (but not seen much proof to be honest ) but real reason I dont prefer it over ,say, 18/6 is I like to give my plants a break for a few hours a day (esp when using HIDs).
Btw just to make sure I understand what you mean here above, are you saying that plants that were vegged under 24/0 show less stretch or more stretch between nodes when they are eventually flowered?For mothers and clones I guess 24h is better - there's also something to do with the stretching of plants between internodes (once you flower them) as add on to the "get faster growth per day".
hi British hempire
I misread your post! though you had wrote you switched to 24/0.My bad..so excuse my mistake..and thanks for clarifying.
Btw just to make sure I understand what you mean here above, are you saying that plants that were vegged under 24/0 show less stretch or more stretch between nodes when they are eventually flowered?
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l33t
I know this is an old thread but I've been offline and
I'd love to continue this conversation. A few things:
1. What about the law of diminishing returns? I thought
plants can only process so much light per day, No/Yes?
2. Plants kept under 24/0 must be undergoing some level
of stress as this is not anything close to a normal light
regimen. This would only show over a long period of time?
Most people would not know the effect this would have?*
3. Nights do serve a purpose IMO. Plants exposed to night
cycles, as opposed to those under 24/0, sex faster. This
has several advantages for the grower: it also saves time.
In my mind it saves space and money as well. Am I wrong?
4. Plants that are vegged with some type of a night regi
men transition to flowering faster than those kept under
24/0. It saves at least a week, sometime 2 in some cases.
5. Clones kept under constant light, over time, were not
as healthy and did not root as fast as clones given a night
cycle. 24/0 on clones seems a total waste of resources.
*Excluding Nevil and Shanti of course!
DJShort is convinced the 24/0 is detrimental to the overall
health of the plant, and as I cannot attest to that state-
ment, I can say that I have not noticed a decline in the
health of plants given a night cycle. In fact, I would say
that plants given rest were "happier" and grew just as fast,
if not faster, than those under 24/0. I've also noticed that
plants kept under constant light did not "look happy" from
time to time, and in some cases were given dark periods to
help them recover. I personally believe plants like the dark!
Happier plants make for better bud.
That's what I've found.
I have usually used 24 hours of light for veg. I have found when growing from seed that I get a higher ratio of females with 24 hours and females frequently start showing sex before I even change the light cycle.
In my experience they show sex faster, and they grow faster. I have always used 24 hour for veg, and have never had any problems.
hi all
...I believe it might have flowered quite faster and more profoundly with 11/13 , 10/14 , 9/15 etc and would finish much earlier.
Like probably within 18-26weeks max as I 've never heard or seen plants (and more specifically hazes) that go much longer than that when grown in nature...