Breeding techniques

I have to wonder if strong branching is a trait that has been carried over from non-drug varieties such as hemp
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Hemp strains are bred for single stems these days.
The only real trouble I had with branching was Big Bud. The weight of the buds caused the branches to break at the stem. You can often pick the branching type in males, although they don't break, no weight.
N.
 
Carbon why dont you chill OUT what the hell did i say to you to ofend, you?

WHy dont you shut the hell up!!! I have not said one thing bad.

So why did you tell me to shut the frig up?

That was rude what did i do to you??

I mean really your preaching to the quire man.

I am 100% crystal, clear on keeping P1s , trust me this is not my first rodeo!And I stated my position on fem seeds in the FEM seed post.

But as far as back ups i agree and dis agree, If I loose a good female,for what ever reason, yes i would want daughters from her, but i would still also want somthing from the MoM also that is S1 instead of just an F1,But trust me I am very clear on keeping the plant it self alive at all cost.



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Hey Carbon .I think your confusing,homozygous,for homogeneous!

Because in 20 years of messing with this plant I have not had any of them ,and I have germinated 1000s of seeds, and have never come across a cannabis plant that past all of its traits not just one or two traits!!

Have ??? any of you and I ask all of you, have any of you?

I can plant 1.5 million heirloom tomato seeds each year, and the next year, and the next year , by just saving the seeds and dropping them the next year, with not one variation in growth or production,They are True breeders,heirloom.(homogeneous)

That my friend is a TRUE breeding plant.And I have never ever seen any cannabis from any seed company that was.

If cannabis was that way ... think here.. We wouldn't be having this discussion, would we? Cannabis as a whole is not out in the open for there to be any real supply of heirloom seeds.
 
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negativaty

Japanfreak said:
You need a brain, a working one.
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this is what im talking about you are always on the negative side of things not once have i seen something positive come out of you if you dont like it here go some where else were learning to breed seeds not argue with you JP:eek:
 
I NO YOUR UPSET BECAUSE YOUR PENNIS IS THE SIZE OF A MINI CARROT GOD DOES THAT TO ASIANS SO DONT BE MAD I DONT THINK YOU BELONG HERE YOU MIGHT WANT TO FIND A PLACE YOU FIT IN. I SEE YOU DONT GET ALONG WITH ANYONE YOUR JUST MAD AT THE WORLD MAYBE ITS YOUR SURROUNDINGS WHY DONT U LIVE IN THE USA WHY JAPAN WERE YOU DEPORTED. I JUST THINK IF WE SEEN YOU IN PERSON U WOULD BE VERY QUITE YOU JUST HAVE A BIG MOUTH BECAUSE I CANT GET MY HANDS AROUD YOUR SKINNY FISH EATING NECK GO AWAY

Is this the kind of mail that you really want to sent people here Grover? Grow up dude.
 
well i used to be a smart arse and i can do time spinning on my dick.

wow I'm really proud of that fact,:rolleyes:

done everything from double A cat to working in D cat open prison with a guy whose first name was LORD.

any one can last in prison. its all down to how you carry yourself and how you deal with people.


*WE APOLOGISE FOR THE INTERRUPTION IN TRANSMISSION. YOU CAN NOW GET BACK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND AND STOP FIGHTING YOUR FAM*
 
Lets keep it to 'Breeding Techniques' please.

CAN WE NOT SHIT ON ANOTHER THREAD PLEASE PEEPS?

Look, if you don't like what peeps are typing then will you please hit the ignore button on them, it's really boring watching alleged adults throwing insults and derailing threads. If you have nothing constructive to say or add to a thread then please don't bother posting in it at all.

The breeding side of things to a layman (me included) are quite confusing, which is why I think this thread will be a great help to many, so lets keep it educational and not turn the thread into another bitchfest - please?

Hey Japanfreak, why didn't you just PM Nev with your question that you didn't get the response you wanted to? Wouldn't that have been better than all the negativity that has happened since? I have nothing against you mate, your just another human behind a pc screen, I just wish you weren't so confrontational, but then again peeps probably wish I wasn't such a stoner. Guess we can't all have what we want. ;)

Lets move forwards, not backwards.

P.S I'm not a groupie, but I am extremely happy with the MNS product (from forum to seed) - credit to Shanti, Nev and Howard for making all this possible.

P.P.S That PM from GROVER was uncalled for Japanfreak - fuck racism!
 
fxginbcn said:
smartasses dont last a day in prison.... good luck

love an respect
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Sorry dude, I don't live in your world. I imagine if I lived in a world where the boys with the biggest guns or least amount of respect for life wins I would keep my mouth shut and not give any opinion that is polar to the majority of people, which would suck because look what the majority is doing with the world.

Now you people have assumed I was being disrespectful to Nevil by asking a question, where I was in my mind giving him a chance because if any of us are honest for a sec and get past our need to look cool on the net, none of us really wants our beloved plant to be hurt and his comments about not giving a shit are more about performing for the audience than anything and I find that a bit disrespectful and dishonest. But I'm actually giving him credit enough to not do something like hurt the gene pool. Sorry that's fucking honesty. Maybe if he stayed to talking about the topic of the thread instead of performing and selling I wouldn't have commented?

Now seriously if you don't want me to give you my opinion don't accuse me of being negative, stupid, weak or any of the other things you people do to prove something to yourselves I don't get.

I mean shit people, I asked him a simple fucking question. And some fucking idiot is talking about choking me? Dip-shits, seriously.

If you noticed he did answer the question already, he doesn't believe he's done any damage and I'm cool with that. I believe him.
 
REDEYE_420 said:
Hey Japanfreak, why didn't you just PM Nev with your question that you didn't get the response you wanted to? Wouldn't that have been better than all the negativity that has happened since?
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Since he said it in this thread I was hoping he would answer, obviously others were shocked by the comment, you know this to be true. But I gave Nevil and others too much credit to have the ability to see an honest question for what it is. I have no alternative motive to come to this thread but Nevil's comments offended me, seriously. Sorry if that offends people.
 
I deal with subjects in my own order and in my own time. Sometimes a question comes up a few times before I'm inclinded to deal with it. Sometimes I ignore questions because I think the answer is self evident and people need to work it out for themselves. Sometimes I ignore a question because I think that the question is asked to create controversy or confrontation. Sometimes I just ignore arseholes. Sometimes, things just slip my mind.

Whatever my reasons are, they are mine and I'm accountable to no man. I do what I want Japfreak. You truly are a virus wherever you go. Is someone paying you for this or is it just your nature?

I'd like to organise a poll so that people can nominate people and vote disruptive elements out. The results should only be seen by the moderators. If we don't do something, I'll end up spending my time on this shit and I'm not sure I'm willing to volunteer for that.
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Hi there,
Maybe a tip to move on with this thread...
Close this thread and restart it or renew it.
Ignore the people that wanne boobytrap the thread with all their negative input
If everyone here will ignore them it will stop.
Concentrate on the informative issues of the thread and not on the insults and bad vibes etc..
I'm, as many of you are, very interested in breeding techniques so let's have a ball in sharing info.
Don't focus on the rotten apples, just IGNORE them!
Good luck,
Y.Sam
 
nuteburn said:
Good idea, take out the trash, Japfreak gets my vote for dick of the month.
If the winners in those polls get banned, their account & all their stupid posts deleted, then maybe threads can stay on track instead of being crapped in all the time.
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Deleting a user is cool but when you delete their posts it makes the thread real hard to understand as people who have been arguing or discussing with the deleted member look like they are talking to themselves.

I have a few grow diary's in places that a few members posted in and they were deleted. It makes my grow diary's look as if I am a loon rambling onto myself for pages and pages.. aha lol

To be honest I think the shit stirrers and people who create negativity on this forum need to be deleted.. First time give them a warning then just delete em if they give any lip or they do it again.

Its becoming a real pain in the ass having to trawl through pages and pages of whining and winging to find anything remotely interesting. If I want a soap opera and some drama I will turn on the TV..

Be Well,
Doobz
 
Nevil said:
Hey North
If early flowering is a goal, that's one criteria that can be applied to males each gen. Otherwise, I'd just take seed from the 5 or 6 best females and plant them in different sections. Take seeds from the best female from every line and over time, cull half of the lines. When you are down to your best 2or3 lines, cross them with each other and start again.
N.
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Thanks for the reply Nevil.

Another question if i may....

I've seen many people ask and never seen a serious breeder answer it straight forward....

do you feel certain traits are linked to only male or only female plants?

Like earliness...you mention i should look to the males for that...do you feel thats a sex linked trait or just a matter of timing? (as in the males flower first...so i should look to the first X number of males as one of my selection criteria?)

is one sex more likely to pass whatever trait along than the other sex?

which traits tend to be passed by which sex if any?

(if this has been asked and answered somewhere else here @MrN. by Nev or Shanti could someone point it out)

fumbly wording...still a bit groogy from last night....sorry
 
Here's a breeding question. I have two plants each with recessive characteristics that I want. Ducksfoot with a strange look and Short Term Amnesia an autoflower.
I inputted this cross into a Punnett Square calculator. What I wonder is did I input this correctly?
D=Ducksfoot
A=Autoflower
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According to the calculator. If I did it correctly. Statistically out of 100 seeds 6 will be Ducksfoot and autoflowering. Correct?
 
In your example..Is the Ducks foot homozygous for Ducks foot, or heterozygous?

And same ? for your autoflower.

Or are you trying to find out what i asked?
 
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well, one positive is we are back to you mr. north which is the direction i wanted to follow cause i think we have similar goals. but first, where do you live and i ask because at my 41 degrees i have also been told forever that hazes were out of my range?

the last five or six years, my world has seen drastic changes in the weather patterns with one consequence being a need for new genetics. this is supposed to be a general warming pattern and i believe the season has extended in spite of winters still being very cold? one positive is that for the second year in a row a beautiful autumn saved me after a wet, hot summer had done its damage. and also for the second year in a row it was the late season sativas that did the best.

until five years ago, i had never seen mold on a plant. it didn't happen where i lived and with what i planted. and today with a few exceptions it is the indicas that are hurt the worst. so i started trying a few hybrids and soon learned not to fear any 10 week strain. and i also tasted my perception of haze again for the first time since the 70s on plants that i grew!

mr. north has the knack for breeding that i lack but i believe he is on the right track. others have spoken of this sort of "climatic adaption" in the breeding of hybrids. ime as strictly a grower and buyer of seed, most of these hybs will flower and even finish as demanded by the weather but will ultimately show their discontent through shitty yields. did you ever see a six foot plant with a one ounce yield? that has been my results when i push the limits too hard. peace-biteme
 
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