Hey Nev do you keep your back ups as plants or just seeds or both,ATM me just beans, no room for live back ups.
And if beans would you rather keep female beans, or do you keep regular also?
Goahead and shoot me now,cant wait for the slaps, I keep my back ups,..cough...FEmale..beans.
LOL
Greezy
I may be going out on a limb here,but I'm going to guess Nev does not keep feminized seeds...
I'm sure he has played with them,but not for safeguarding genetics,,that's not his cup of tea.
With regards to "keeping Back ups"
or rather safeguarding a strain ,you will have to understand it takes 2 unique P1 parents to create a strain or line.
If those exact plants are not kept alive,then the ability to replicate the same seed is gone as well..
It's a very simple and straight forward concept and practice..
You cannot recreate the magic 2 perfectly combined P1 parents create,using other siblings with any degree of certainty,nor accuracy.
Unless each line is so over the top inbred and pure ,the results will differ.
With that principal out of the way,,it's also imperative to understand something about feminized seeds..
This is where I really like to pound it home!
The notion spread around the international community that by feminizing a plant and selfing it to create a S1 is going to give you a clone in essence of that same pheno or genetic composite is absolutely laughable.
The same tools spouting off about this BS are taking clones from the USA and selfing them and selling them as a seed line that is supposed to represent that individual unique specimen..
Not how it works....and for that same reason your reasoning that anybody is going to safe guard a strain by maintaining femmed seeds is also not feasible.
You may get any type of pheno show up in a S1 that is stemming back generations on either side of the P1 parents that created that unique cut.
What you are most certainly not guaranteed to get is a replication of the plant it came from...
In some cases with strains such as Trainwreck I've played with her and selfed her years ago as well as made plenty of femmed F1's ,,that plant
has dominant genes that will carry over to generations and create similar specimens.
That tells me those boys worked within that pool for a few generations or more before she was isolated.
Of course the stooges at Gh come to mind when I mention this,and I will say yet again that the Trainwreck cut they were sold is not,and was not the real Arcata cut....not even close .
I know I've worked that gal long enough,inside and out!
That's the same reason there are E32 Males out there throwing the same traits in all regards to their offspring..Reserve Prada or whoever they were made a Purple wreck by crossing The E32 male to the P Urkle cut...
I had a selected pheno of that from a 40 oz gentleman..
The bottom line is you must maintain the original P1 parents(not seed) to maintain a line,,,,something Simon at Serious can't seem to grasp!
He still thinks that his ak47 is ak47!
I really hate to even address the topic of the genepool and damage etc..
I've went to battle with idiots over the years on these sites about this,and my feminizing seeds hurting or pissing in the pool
they like to say..
I'd like to once yet again say to anybody who thinks they are sooo important to get up on their lil stool and preach
to build a greenhouse and start collecting all the strains all over the world and safe guard them,,,or bang hard enough
on the door to the underground cave they have stored all the seedstock to species in,,somewhere in Norway or such..
Maybe the guy will open that door and you can bring all the varieties in and maintain them there ...
But until you actually do something like that ,,,then you sir can kindly have a nice hot cup of
"shut the fuck up!" and enjoy that!
