After the first batch of '69 Haze seeds only produced 1 plant, I decided to plant the rest.
This produced 5 plants A,B,C,D and E.
Plants B,D and E were females, of which B was the best.
I tried all possible combinations and the best was B x C.
BC was actually grown commercially alongside 5HzC1, so it was a 10/11 week plant. This fact alone indicated that HzB was a Haze Hybrid to something early. I suspect that most of BC's quality came from Dad.
I planted the rest of the old seeds. One came out. O for Omega. It was a 1970 seed. I suspected that it was only 25% Haze with one parent being Indica. It too did not really pan out.
The males were the "goods". Without those two plants, I think that all would have been lost. If I'd only kept a cutting of the first female, whose genotype was closer to male A. I'm start to get that sad feeling again.
Ah well, you can be thankful that the seeds fell into my hands, otherwise you wouldn't know what I'm talking about.
N.
The Haze seeds I got from Sam were grown in America in 69/70. I got them in the mid 80's. All of my Haze came from these seeds of which I was saying I got 7 plants. I was hoping that Sam would come out with something good from his remaining seeds, he never did and to my knowledge, nor did anyone else. The only good haze that hit the market was from two males A and C.
Hz C male produced 5Hz1 which won a Cup or 2, this was a daughter of NL5 which won a cup. 5Hz1 when crossed with Sk1x HzC produced Silver Haze which won a Cup. Ben renamed it Jack Herrer. Somebody else renamed it Diesel. 5HzC X Sk1Hz C was not as good as 5Hz1. Mango Haze (5Hz122)is a full sister to 5Hz1 and these two were the best out of tens of thousands.
Haze A produced 5HzA2 (5A2) and was featured on the cover of the 1990 catalogue and is the mother of Nevil's Haze, the father being HzC.
If you are smoking any good Haze, I'll bet you London to a brick that it comes from Haze A or Hz C or both!
Unless you have direct knowledge that I'm not privy to, I'd suggest that you drop the assumption.
The seeds I got were not just 2 bags. It could have been 12. One had three years put together of older stuff, The bags were old and crinkled like they'd been handled a lot over the years. The writing was old. Germination rates were consistant with the ages described. Sam was uncomfortable selling it. Everything was consistant with the legend.
Sam is an abrasive fellow. He might stretch the truth to exaggerate his own importance, and he does collaborate with the enemy, but I wouldn't accuse him of perpetrating such an elaborate hoax as what you seem to be suggesting. He is a breeder and misrepresenting what he is actually selling would be an atrocity that even he couldn't live with.
I don't like the man, but he has played a significant role in cannabis history.
Everything he has ever sold me has been exactly what he said it was. I'd trust his pedigrees more than I would trust those of most of the modern seed companies.
I was there and parting with the equivalent of a few months salary. If I was you, I wouldn't make the assumption that I could be fooled so easily.
The facts demonstrate that those seeds were the closest to the source of true haze. I got what I paid for.
N.
