The origins of Haze

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You have a very selective memory and quite often just makes things up.

I never trolled or attacked you, you attacked me out of the blue the same week I appeare on the net for the first time.

You denied it at icmag 2 years later, so you're either senile with a bad memory or a liar.

Don't you remember all the bile you poured at me at hg420 nearly 6 years ago?

I had a thread where I was growing a bunch of Thais with a pare of vertical bare bulbs, I culeld a load of hermies, you appeared in my thread out of the blue and started calling me a 'fucken idiot' and a liar and all kinds of names and saying my Thai wasn't a 'thia', that I couldn't grow because I must have made them hermie because once 'sexted' 'thia' never hermies and my plants must have indica in them because indica is the cause of all hermies.

So you were a nasty out of order full opf shit creep back then and haven't changed at all to this day.

You might not remember how you behaved and what you said but i definitely do.

As for icmag, I was there as british-hempire from the start, the day after logic made me the first mod at thcfarmer I was banned from icmag because dg automatically bans anyone associated with thcfarmer. Best part of a year later I came back as indifferent. I last a year almost then was banned a second time because docleaf told dg who I was. I came back again just to keep in touch with some friends as funky monkey and that last a few months then I got banned a third time because of docleaf again.

So fire away with this posting of things I've supposedly done in the past, I know for a fact there is bugger all yet there are pages upon pages of your childish bullshit remaining at icmag for all to see, you made the same post calling me a 'mental midget' at least 30 times...

Don't bother trying to be nice to me, I don't want anything to do with ya, if you were a man you'd be honest and admit you've been out of order for many years and behaved like a overgrown child with a low iq and a bagful of hatred.

I never took a word you wrote seriously after the first half dozen posts you made in my thread at hg420, I should have ignored you from that point on and would have but you dogged me after that, I remember how you used to follow me round icmag posting in every thread I posted in just so you could call me a mental midget, I'd expect better more mature behaviour from a child.

You'r pathetic and hate-filled and think the world owes you a favour, drop dead.

There, I set the record straight and that's the last time I waste my energy writing word one about hempy, everyone who's been around more than a minute knows what a shitty atitude and pile of hatred he has so I don't see the need to outline it for people, they can see for themselves...
 
It's starting to seem really sad and pathetic to me that people are coming to the legendary Mr Nice Seeds forum (maybe specifically to read 'The origins of Haze' because who else would have this much insight and wisdom) only to encounter this load of personal attack shit. Out of respect to Nevil, Shanti and the plant couldn't these be moved to a new (or at least another) thread and continued there if you must? That way there's no censoring or moderation, and this thread can go back to being about The origins of Haze?
 
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I had my chance with this girl and I passed.

We were alone in a girl's bathroom.

Cocaine was involved.

Please, this doesn't help, why post this in a Haze thread? We don't care about your exploits, especially if hard drugs were involved.

This thread is destroyed now, unless it gets heavily cleaned up it's a lost cause.
 
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Canada salmon bears and snow correct did i get it wrong ? There may be some parts of Canada that dont get snow but i suspect it snows all over and frost and the rest so how are you going to mature out a sativa like say Thia Columbian or African even haze in such a place with out the use of a greenhouse.

Yes the weather has changed but i dont see people wearing there swimmers in Canada or NYC in winter any time soon do you.

Hempy how many times do i have to say it ? drop the idea that us canadians live in igloos , it rained here at christmas about 6 out of 10 years , we didnt see frost untill just before christmas

you say "i dont see people wearing there swimmers in Canada" ,,,,,, you spent how much time here lately ?

stop argueing with fiction and decade old or older facts that are irelivent now as times have changed A LOT !

i live and grow here Hempy so stop arguing a point you can not win , i dont tell you that you cant grow in australia do i ? NO i dont because im not there so i wouldnt know what you know about growing there , same as you dont know shit about growing in canada

p.s. i went shopping dec 26th (boxing day) wearing SHORTS , and if your growing a strain that takes too long and your worried about frost i have a tip for you , place a few buckets of water around your plot and the frost wont touch the plants ,,,, ohhh hey there is something for JessE to write about
 
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british_hempire aka big_budda aka Indifferent aka Freefields

british_hempire = Freefields.

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Thank you Hempy...I am sure this will help some members to see the light...

It is always interesting to know with whom we are dealing with on the forum.

That rascal reminds me of the Skunkman with all his different handles...maybe he was just trying to emulate him.

Peace.

K.
 
place a few buckets of water around your plot and the frost wont touch the plants ,,,,

Aye, heard that one, not tried it myself. I used to plant alongside a south facing wall. Allowed me to leave plants a full month later as the wall absorbed the heat of the sun during the day. Anyone who's lived in Canada or England will have noticed that when the lawn is covered in frost the metre or so next to the house doesn't have any - purely because of the walls absorbing the sun's heat during the day and radiating it through the night so that the ambient temperature within a few feet is just and so higher and that's just enough to keep the frost off until the hard frost sets in.

I've swum in the sea off Nova Scotia in May and it wasn't as cold as the Irish Sea in July for whatever that's worth.

I should ask Elevator Man if I can posts his pics of Highland Oaxacan Gold growing in the forest at 55N, picking the right spot to avoid any early frosts and get the best of the sun when it does shine is key to growing up North.
 
im sure if his pics are public it would be fine posting them if you give credit

and yeah try the buckets of water , you get a lot of extra growing time because no worries about frost :D , hopefully Hempy and JessE see my earlier post ;)

us Canadians know the ins and outs of growing here , we learn many tricks over the years , its just too bad ppl from other parts of the world see a pic from the far north and ASSume thats what canada is all about (Canada is a big town eh) , we have actually had electricity and running water for a long time and in all my years i have never even seen an official igloo and have in the past even went as far as february before seeing more then an inch of snow on the ground maybe less
 
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I drove from Toronto to Nova Scotia, no shit's it's big!

I'll see if the pics are still online, might have to ask him for them.
 
Back to the topic at hand, Joshua, nice post, I agree with ya. Like I say, Nev's ability to spot the good shit and use it to create something special is probably a large part of why Sam is pissed off with him, Sam has an ego bigger even than hempy's so you can imagine how he feels about Nev's name being more associated with great Haze than Sam's ever will. Maybe there's something karmic in that and Sam has bad karma?

Hi BH,
Thanks.


I'm not gonna speak as to Sam's Karma, but it seems Nevil was interested in spreading it around as much as he could, and Sam wanted to keep it in the hands of the "elite" or few. 2 different philosophies on preservation. It looks like Nevil's won out in the end.

Maybe we can stop all the bickering, I think we have all proven to ourselves how petty we can all be so lets make amends and move on. Its like Shanti says: MNS is a small home for us. I guess we are like many brothers and sisters in a crowded house, always bickering amongst ourselves.


... We at MNS sell the real versions that won the original awards and made the legends…nowadays it is all confused and everyone is going feminised…except MNS. We exist so people who like to breed will be able to with the original true breed plants that come from selection and natural collection from traveling around the world. As they say, an empty barrel makes a louder noise…and we are full.

ShantiBaba


Source: Shantibaba - setting the record straight - THCfarmer


Thanks Shanti
 
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I've been deliberately skirting around the shadier side of Sam's story and trying to stick to the Haze part. Of course, there is a whole lot of other reasons and incidents that went on between Sam and Nev over the years but honestly, it's best to let Nev speak on that if he wishes as none of us were there.

You see, it was one thing to research and post about what went on when Nev was AWOL and we all thought he would never resurface but now we know he is very much still around and therefore able to speak for himself so we should leave it to him to do so, if for no other reason than we might get it wrong if we speak and these are very contentious things so accuracy is crucial. First time I spoke to Nev one of the first points he made to me was he has a good memory but obviously can't remember every little betail of everything that happened but he did do his best to try to remember all the key parts and you can bet that the really shitty and rat-like things that happened have stuck in his memory clearly.

So I'm not going into what Sam did after arriving in Holland, Mario Lap or any reports and details that may have been supplied to authorities or any other part of that whole controversial tale, it's not really any of my business and isn't really relevant to the Haze story apart from in one way - it throws a certain bad light on Sam's character and therefore brings up some doubts as to the veracity and accuracy of the story as he tells it.
 
The thing that always bothered me about the whole sam/nevil thing was where sam said he was fine with nevil making hybrids, then he got mad because nevil was selling the hybrids he KNEW nevil was going to make. If sam said it was ok for nev to make hybrids, why did he get upset? I've never quite understood that.

From what I can gather, Nevil got seed from sam, made them better, and shared them with the world. If this is true, Sam contributed to Nev's success either directly or indirectly by selling him those haze seeds.

I'd love to see the transcript from the radio show in holland where Sam was said to be a rat. I'm not doubting anyone here, but that seems to be an important part of the story that is missing.

HB.
 
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Sam complained that Nev sold pure versions of his lines when Sam had told him he could only make hybrids of them.

That just isn't true, apart from Skunk #1, what lnes of Sam's did Nev even offer in pure form?

Nev worked Sam's Skunk before he released it anyways so he wasn't exactly just hacking it for quick profit like people do today.

You have to remember Sam made all these accusations online at a time when everyone thought Nev was somewhere in Australia never to be heard from again.

Would he have been so flippant with his accusations if Nev had been around to refute them at the time?

Personally I have my doubts he would have because it would just have made him look stupid, at the time Sam said it there wasn't a resource where one could go and look at all of Nev's old catalogues online to see if he did offer Sam's lines pure. Unless you had a catalogue collection from the 80s then how would you have been able to check?

All this makes me wonder if Sam would have been able to make up tales about the past if the people were still around who could refute them?

The answer is one of these two:

A: He could say what he wanted cos he knew those who knew different were either dead, imprisoned or long gone from the scene.

B: His stories are true so he's not worried about anyone being able to refute him.

I vote for A personally, what do others think?
 
The answer is one of these two:

A: He could say what he wanted cos he knew those who knew different were either dead, imprisoned or long gone from the scene.

B: His stories are true so he's not worried about anyone being able to refute him.

I vote for A personally, what do others think?

Answer A.... Answer B....lol

What a joke.

B_hoe is going to turn the forum into a reality show...

Peace.

K.
 
Jeez kash, you're always so negative, weren't you loved as a child?

My mother taught me 'if you have nothing useful to say it is better to not speak'.

Clearly a lesson you were never taught.

Sometimes I feel sorry for you because you really do lack some basic social skills.
 
If you were trying to be humourous rather than negative at my expense then you have my sincere apologies.

I too am trying to remain civil.

Therefore it would be much appreciated by everyone if we all tried to make it easier for each other to be civil.

I mean, it is much easier for all of us if we all were to be civil, it allows discussions to stay on topic and that benefits us all doesn't it?

Perhaps there is a C option I overlooked that is more complicated than either A or B?

I don't say these things for any other reason than to stmulate on-topic debate.

I don't have any answers but I might be able to point those who have the motivation to dig deeper in the right direction and save them digging in the wrong place.
 
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