The origins of Haze

[Morphote]

As long as you're growing them, and not letting them sit in the fridge, its an investment worth making.

Lol it ain't that easy, my friend.

So little time, so many MNS strains 2 grow...

The fridge is the Vault, and the Vault is just the place
for such fine genetics saved especially for a rainy day.
Having these genes on ice is a great great feeling m8.

"When the student is ready" type deal 4 me...

Such exquisit genetics.

 

[JessE]

So you dont forget Bob

Jimmy high (hendrix) was singing about purple microdot ACID , not weed , the haze in the song was his haze feeling

jimmy was an acid freak , as was i for a few years

Above is your original post. And below is the post I made, refuting your statements.

Hi all,
As most of us are aware, wikipedia isn't exactly Harvard. But with that mind, check out some of the below information.

Reportedly, the song came into being after his manager Chas Chandler heard him playing the riff backstage and suggested that he write lyrics to go with it. There is some dispute about the lyrics: supposedly written in the dressing room of the Upper Cut Club on Boxing Day, 1966, Chandler claims that the lyrics were never cut in any way (though he admits that this was done on general principle with Hendrix's lyrics), while Hendrix stated that the original song contained much more text.[3] Hendrix himself denied the drug relation of the song claiming it to be merely another love song. He said that the line "What ever it is, that girl put a spell on me" is the key line to the lyrics.[4]

"I dream a lot and I put a lot of my dreams down as songs," Hendrix said in a 1969 interview with the New Musical Express, "I wrote one called 'First Around the Corner' and another called 'The Purple Haze,' which was all about a dream I had that I was walking under the sea."[8] The term "purple haze" has been used to refer to LSD, due to the form sold by Sandoz, called Delysid, which came in purple capsules. The phrase itself appears in print as early as 1861, in Charles Dickens' Great Expectations, chapter 54: "There was the red sun, on the low level of the shore, in a purple haze, fast deepening into black..." Although, Hendrix himself stated that the song was partially in reference to a sci-fi story.

Purple Haze - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And perhaps a better source...

Hendrix made soul music for inner space. "It's a collection of free feeling and imagination," he said of the album. "Imagination is very important." Drugs were not. Widely assumed to be about an acid trip, "Purple Haze," the opening track on the '67 U.S. LP, had "nothing to do with drugs," Hendrix insisted. " 'Purple Haze' was all about a dream I had that I was walking under the sea."

500 Greatest Albums: Are You Experienced? - The Jimi Hendrix Experience | Rolling Stone Music | Lists
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/101942-post694.html

so what we have together proven is that hendrix is a liar , either he lied in interviews (which he was told to do so by managers , executives ect) or he lied right to the fans who loved him

so wow we have brought forth some actual evidence worthy of a search result , and holy hell JessE we did it TOGETHER

No, you and I have not proven anything together. I have provided sources that shows your original statement above to be false. You have nothing to support your claim, other than a “because I said so.”
Your word has already been proven to be less than reliable.

Originally Posted by b0b_b1tch1n
p.s. all of my fem's have grown just as well as the original plants so im not sure your tests are acurate hempy

Originally Posted by b0b_b1tch1n [
i had some very very poor fem ww seeds , the plants were no better then hemp

http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=57314

So you’re proven to be unreliable, yet expect us to take your word on Purple Haze?
Sorry bob, that’s not how things work in the real world.

Originally posted by Bob Bitchin
lmfao it took you all day to come up with that JessE hahahaha

copy n paste all you want , because i reply to you does not meen im trolling you , there was always 2 sides but you only show/paste one

as for hendrix , my parents BOTH met and partied with him , i have been a fan of his since a young child , researched him and did reports on him throughout many different school years , and then there is the first hand experience others shared with me , INCLUDING MY PARENTS , do you think they lied to me ? , i know the truth and what is being hidden/kept secret for buisiness reasons

go away JessE because you know nothing and your internet searches bring very poor results and most often wrong info

So basically, you were proven wrong. And once proven wrong, your source is yourself. And we’re suppost to believe you? Is that your stance?
Remember when I said maybe you should grow/contribute more, and troll less around here? That was because you’ve got no credibility, absolutely none. Your word is next to worthless here.



So provide a source to your standard internet fairy tales, or admit you were wrong. Its that simple.

 

[b0b_b1tch1n]

bullshit JessE , your original reply was your childish pic post trying to make me look stupid

stop with the lies JessE and stop pm'ing me

the very poor fem ww seed was not mine , stop trying to put words in my mouth JessE (thats something thats been asked of you before)

you talk about credability ? omg thats a joke right ? you lost yours long ago and its all public for everyone to see

my source , holy shit now you say its myself , i wish it was , but in fact my source is my own parents and the partying and conversations they had with the man HIMSELF not what i read in a magazine

read this , its proof you try to put words in my mouth ,,,,,

Originally Posted by b0b_b1tch1n
p.s. all of my fem's have grown just as well as the original plants so im not sure your tests are acurate hempy <-- as the original plants , meaning those were fems i made and they grew fine


Quote:
Originally Posted by b0b_b1tch1n [
i had some very very poor fem ww seeds , the plants were no better then hemp

if you see MY fems grew as well as the original plants
as you can also see "i had some very very poor fem ww seeds , the plants were no better then hemp" <-- where does that say they were mine as in my creation like the post above about the ones that were MINE

your the one being proven wrong JessE and you should have stopped with all this B.S when i asked you too

once again JessE , STOP bugging me , and stop pm'ing me

 

[JessE]

Red Herrings wont work bob

bullshit JessE , your original reply was your childish pic post trying to make me look stupid

stop with the lies JessE and stop pm'ing me

the very poor fem ww seed was not mine , stop trying to put words in my mouth JessE (thats something thats been asked of you before)

Still no source Bob?

 

[JessE]

Lol it ain't that easy, my friend.

So little time, so many MNS strains 2 grow...

The fridge is the Vault, and the Vault is just the place
for such fine genetics saved especially for a rainy day.
Having these genes on ice is a great great feeling m8.

"When the student is ready" type deal 4 me...

Such exquisit genetics.

Hi Fresh
I hear you brother, I wished I could grow much more than I do. As time passes, I am sure things will pick up a bit?

Some other varieties which really catch my eye are Critical Haze and Early Haze.

 

[b0b_b1tch1n]

Still no source Bob?

go back and read my post , i added to it

and stop fucking bugging/trolling me and stop fucking pm'ing me

 

[JessE]

go back and read my post , i added to it

and stop fucking bugging/trolling me and stop fucking pm'ing me

I didnt see a link anywhere Bob, where is the source?

 

[b0b_b1tch1n]

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

This message is hidden because JessE is on your ignore list.

good bye fraud

 

[Donald Mallard]

LOL, yeah, that is the truth. It was honestly too much. It was a true landrace, scored in Africa. It actually turned yellow, like straw, crazy stuff, the high lasted like 6 hours, I crossed it with some of my Haze hybrids, to lower the length of budding, and once I had a lot of it around, it actually was starting to slowly drive me crazy...

We almost got into trouble because a friend of a friend wound up on the psyche ward. Luckily she came down after a few days.

I had to put it on the shelf...

Sounds delightful ,
the columbian we used to get was kinda yellowy more so than gold , like you say , it was grown in australia from columbian gold seed , good enough to still remember it vividly 22 years later ,

(good enough that if anyone in this thread toked it , they would fast forget wtf they were arguing about , hehe)

a friend sitting amongst a crowd of us disputed anyone possessed such herb ,
"havent seen that stuff for years" he said ,, "your full of shit"
(it was a bit like this thread is at times , hehe)
so the guy with the erb tossed the bag to the non believer ,
"ok so you do have it "
he quickly said after viewing the contents of the bag ...

 

[JessE]

This message is hidden because JessE is on your ignore list.

good bye fraud

So instead of supporting your position with any kind of legitimate sources, you choose to ignore now?

Arent you the same guy who was trolling me on the forum, now you're going to ignore me because I am asking for sources?

Its funny to see bullies look for refuge. Bit off more than you could chew?

Ill wait for you read this post, and respond with something other than a source lol.

 

[Green man]

D.I.Y HAZES

Hi all :

why don t we try and make our own hazes?

grab 4 sativa landraces spread around the globe n go for it , cross them.
must be much more fun than be here quarreling so much about .

gm

 

[b0b_b1tch1n]

Hi all :

why don t we try and make our own hazes?

grab 4 sativa landraces spread around the globe n go for it , cross them.
must be much more fun than be here quarreling so much about .

gm

great idea , i love my hobby breading and your idea sounds like fun

might even get a winner out of it

 

[sookieme]

So instead of supporting your position with any kind of legitimate sources, you choose to ignore now?

Arent you the same guy who was trolling me on the forum, now you're going to ignore me because I am asking for sources?

Its funny to see bullies look for refuge. Bit off more than you could chew?

Ill wait for you read this post, and respond with something other than a source lol.

Wow,its no much wonder i dont offtin post here,Are you a 12 year old girl jesse? I seen him post his source many times and it is not linkable.What dont you get about that?Grow up jesse

it took a bigger man for him to walk away from you and your school girl spoilt brat behavior

I too like Green man's idea

 

[Unclepeter]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unclepeter View Post
anyway one things for sure no Northern lights in their stock..... only narrow leaf plants, unless you suggest Wernard, TH, SamS are lying?
What SamS lying? Not possible

Quote:
Originally Posted by osoloco69 View Post
The Haze bros had many Hazes and they were all different. They had a lot of sativas(more than 10 pure lines), a bunch of indicas(3 of which were from the Kashmir valley), and quite a few crosses. Most of the pure sativas were called haze as were some of the hybrids. To add to the confusion the Haze bros would make crosses and name them Haze followed by a #...Haze#1, Haze#2, Haze#3 etc. This would explain why Tom sees some rare broad leaf traits.
Snigger...and why they flower in 12 weeks like any other 50% Haze hybrid.

The fact is pure sats take longer to flower than reports of TH Haze indicate. Its simply not possible to fully flower a sat in that time. That may not resonate with your experience in a Northern European cupboard. But that's how it is. The only thing pure about TH Hz is the fact that the notion that its pure - is 100% pure unadulterated bunkum. Its a point that may be easily overlooked by the novices at IC, but on this forum we're gonna call it BS - cos that's manifestly what it is.

Not to say its not a top smoke, like I said to Tom - 1 in 20 of any 50% Haze hybrid can seem like the best in the world - just cut the BS already.

hmmm well where would that leave Nevs haze type gear since it came via SamS... I know which story I find easier to swallow and its not the G13 one..... I have seen phenos go for 12 weeks and some for 16 the 16 ones were more "electric" but dog a guy for telling the truth!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by osoloco69 View Post
The Haze bros had many Hazes and they were all different. They had a lot of sativas(more than 10 pure lines), a bunch of indicas(3 of which were from the Kashmir valley), and quite a few crosses. Most of the pure sativas were called haze as were some of the hybrids. To add to the confusion the Haze bros would make crosses and name them Haze followed by a #...Haze#1, Haze#2, Haze#3 etc. This would explain why Tom sees some rare broad leaf traits.

why can't I find the link to this post? does anyone have pics of broad leaves in this narrow leaf stock?

I also have to laugh at anyone who calls Wernard a bullshitter....

 

[Bubbla]

Hi all :

why don t we try and make our own hazes?

grab 4 sativa landraces spread around the globe n go for it , cross them.
must be much more fun than be here quarreling so much about .

gm

Why not mate, that's exactly how Haze was developed in the first place

I was under the illusion that Nevil got his Haze stock direct from the Haze Brothers, shame he doesn't post more because Nevil is the one person who could clear up a lot of this with one post.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Why not mate, that's exactly how Haze was developed in the first place

I was under the illusion that Nevil got his Haze stock direct from the Haze Brothers, shame he doesn't post more because Nevil is the one person who could clear up a lot of this with one post.

Its not that easy , the availability of the all time greats that created haze are no longer that easily obtained , and even when they are , are often a far cry from their hay day ,
check the grail thread for the next best attempt , otherwise i dont see many doing that ...
on the illusion , alas it was an illusion , hehe ,,
nevil mentioned already to clear up the constant speculation ,
that yes he did get his seed from sam skunkman ,
and no hempy didnt know the city in america where nevil got them personally ... ,, hehehe
(am i cheeky tonight or what .. i think its this different erb, )

 

[Unclepeter]

Why not mate, that's exactly how Haze was developed in the first place

I was under the illusion that Nevil got his Haze stock direct from the Haze Brothers, shame he doesn't post more because Nevil is the one person who could clear up a lot of this with one post.

hope that helps.

To continue:-
What ever the legend behind the seeds that I got from Sam, It is my belief that the qualities in the Original Haze that we admire so much, come from Thai. I grew up in Western Australia and started smoking in the early 70's. Most of the Australian cannabis was descended from Thai and was grown in Queensland. Perth is as close to Thailand as it is to Queensland and W.A. got more than it's fair share of Imported Thai. I remember one batch was unparalleled and Haze A male's best progeny, reminded me of it. The guy was selling ounces of it for $30, but he had bags of what I now realise was loose resin, for $60. I wish that I had bought it.
Hence my desire to scour Australia for the best descendants of the old Thai imports to put back to the Haze.
N.

 

[Bubbla]

Its not that easy , the availability of the all time greats that created haze are no longer that easily obtained , and even when they are , are often a far cry from their hay day ,
check the grail thread for the next best attempt , otherwise i dont see many doing that ...
on the illusion , alas it was an illusion , hehe ,,
nevil mentioned already to clear up the constant speculation ,
that yes he did get his seed from sam skunkman ,
and no hempy didnt know the city in america where nevil got them personally ... ,, hehehe
(am i cheeky tonight or what .. i think its this different erb, )

I've read the Grail thread mate.

There are plenty of pure landrace strains about if you know where to go in their Native countries, besides all The haze brothers did was grow out the best from whatever particular season, then choose the best & crossed it with the next years seeds from the best quality imported weed they had.

Haze has become shrouded in Myth but in reality it's just the best Mexican x Columbian X Thai Sativas...... at least the original was.

I was under the impression that the Haze Bros gave Nevil the Haze stock when they were in Amsterdam, I didn't think he went to the US to get it. I may be wrong though so please correct me if I am.

Edit: just saw your post Unclepeter, Nevil's right about N.Australia, some of the Sativas there are absolutely amazing & always have been, like he said they collected seeds from Thai amongst others & bred them. Some of the best Sativas in the World have come from Australia, not native but crosses like Mullimbimby Madness, now that's a nice smoke. Havent had it for a few years, but its a belter that's for sure.

Peace

B

 

[Unclepeter]

Haze has become shrouded in Myth but in reality it's just the best Mexican x Columbian X Thai Sativas...... at least the original was.

I was under the impression that the Haze Bros gave Nevil the Haze stock when they were in Amsterdam, I didn't think he went to the US to get it. I may be wrong though so please correct me if I am.

Peace

B

that stems from the 1969 story....

“It is absurd that Neville said he got 1969 O Haze seeds from the Haze Bros.
#1 Neville first traveled to USA in 86 or 87 at the earliest, the main Haze Brother, R was gone, retired in Mexico by 82 he did not come back for 10 years. He was the one that created O Haze. The second Haze Brother J quit growing O Haze about 1980 and only grew Skunk #1 after that, until he became a reborn christian, then he quit growing, and anyway recently he told me he never met Neville and he certainly did not sell any Haze seeds to him or anyone else ever.
#2 The Haze Bros had a falling out in the late 70's and stopped talking to one another, for certain they did not sell seeds as the Haze Bros to anyone, it is ridiculous as well as impossible.
Lets be honest Neville got the seeds from me, but he had promised me that he would not make pure Haze and sell them as such, I told him it was fine to make Haze hybrids with other varieties that were not mine.
He broke his word and started selling Haze pure and hybrids with my varieties, and I stopped working with him.
Maybe he lied to avoid the problems that accompany breaking your word? I can not say, but I know Neville did not meet the Haze Bros and did not get any O Haze seeds from them. Both the Haze Bros were close friends of mine and both were close neighbors for years, J lived a few hundred meters from my house until he departed to Mexico.

-SamS ”

 

[Green man]

to whom it may concern :

there's [phoenix haze ] male genes on "Afropips seed bank" 's [Senegal Haze ].

gm.