Neville's Haze, in search of a keeper

^^^ Illiterate teeny boppers. They all have opinions based on very limited or non-experience. Phony posers and ankle biters, they are /r. I've always made it a point to find out for myself. The Neville's Haze, Mango Haze, and the newer Holy Grail, Holy Smoke, etc. are superlative examples of sativa hybrids and excellent breeding. If you've had experience growing them, show me your stuff and I'll listen to your opinion, if not, get lost and stop wasting my time.

mu
That's basically what I've noticed.

I mentioned it in my NH thread.... folks say the NH is an indica hybrid now. No 'haze' phenos to be found, etc

I had shit germination on my pack, but the lone female I got is easily the most sativa of the 23 sativas I'm running this cycle.... and there's a handful of plants going over 100 days in bloom, so that's saying something.

If the Genetics were as diluted as some people claim, that should be nearly impossible

Those of us that know, know
 
They are completely illogical.
One example of their inconsistency is that they say that the Neville's clones inherited by Shanti (such as the male Haze C) are too old and/or have lost genetic vigour due to poor preservation.

But when you mention clones from the Chemdog line or clones such as A5 Haze or Cuban Black Haze (which mostly comes from Neville genetics), which are the same age as Neville/Shanti's clones, their mistrust completely disappears... There is no longer any fear about genetic degradation...

Between clones preserved by a professional like Shanti in greenhouses who make F1s and clones preserved in domestic garages or cellars by underground breeders who mostly makes IBLs I think the choice is obvious.
 
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^^^ Illiterate teeny boppers. They all have opinions based on non-experience. Phony posers and ankle biters, they are /r. I've always made it a point to find out for myself. The Neville's Haze, Mango Haze, and the newer Holy Grail, Holy Smoke, etc. are superlative examples of sativa hybrids and excellent breeding. If you've had experience growing them, show me your stuff and I'll listen to your opinion, if not, get lost and stop wasting my time.

mu

Beauty is in the high of the beholder 😍
 
Anyone who has followed Shanti and Nevil’s pearls over the years knows that old mothers exposed to sunlight for a period of time brings em back to life. All this bro science and gossip has got me reaching for some Back Door Mango. Thanks for the inspiration @DannyTwoJoints!

Haven't been on here as much as I'd like to be recently, quite a bit going on. Always great to see what everyone has been up too. Will get some pics of my Christmas stash of Super Silver Haze up asap!
 
are there any phenotypes that smell like strong lemon or others citrus fruits ?
I don't want to oversell it just yet but I threw a nevilles haze mother plant into my last run to sex it and left it in there until the run was done. It definitely was not done but it did start flowering and smelled like metallic lemon. Her clone is in my current run and I'll update her progress and how she finishes. I'm hoping she keeps the lemon nose.
these are sativa's with great quality and are very special
Absolutely no doubt my nevilles is sativa as a mofo. She's into the lights and her branching makes super cropping and tying back ineffective. Next run of her will be from clone transplant with minimum or zero veg
Peace,
Fatty
 
MNS Neville's Haze is the real deal if anyone doubts, I dare to say this without even finishing the grow.
I started reading on haze on another forum and I can't believe how many people say that MNS hazes are not the same as before, almost all hybrid looking and talk negative about here.

I have about 40-50 Neville's Haze seeds, from back in 2004, in my deep freezer, personally purchased directly from Shantibaba, when he had a Forum on the Cannabis World website. When I get my tent climate under proper control, I'll run the whole lot.

Some of the MNS 2004 Gear:

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NH came in the longer yellow straw. I think I had more but misplaced some of the packaging, in a box somewhere around here.

Being perfectly organized hasn't been one of my stronger points, in the past couple decades. Not like me to just throw it away though; but at least I kept this much of it.

Getting ready to work through all my boxes soon, so who knows what I might stumble upon when I finally do.
 
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It pleases me to read these comments/experiences about the Neville's Haze.😊
MNS has always delivered what was promised and not for me alone seeing these posts.
I encourage to post a pic from your plants so others can see for themselves what they can expect from this line.
So much better than forming an opion based on just talk...

@Freedom_Fighter, I can't wait to see the day you start your indoor adventures.
You have gold there.🤩

I inspected the males again today, I'm glad I see trichomes on a few beautiful males.
Gave them a hasty rub and wow, hazy!
 
On some US forums, I'm sure some people would be willing to pay 500$ for just one of these packs.

They're convinced that the old packs are better than the new ones... 🙄

Thanks for the tip but they're not for sale and this is the only Forum I'm a member of. There's only one other Forum I'd think about joining because of one breeder who made it his home base, after the original Overgrow Forum disappeared; but as of today, this is my only online hang-out and don't see that changing any time soon.
 
I don't want to oversell it just yet but I threw a nevilles haze mother plant into my last run to sex it and left it in there until the run was done. It definitely was not done but it did start flowering and smelled like metallic lemon. Her clone is in my current run and I'll update her progress and how she finishes. I'm hoping she keeps the lemon nose.

Absolutely no doubt my nevilles is sativa as a mofo. She's into the lights and her branching makes super cropping and tying back ineffective. Next run of her will be from clone transplant with minimum or zero veg
Peace,
Fatty
@fatty arbuckle hey brah where ya been? Good to have you checkin in! Hope to see you again soon!

mu
 
hey brah where ya been?
I've been good, thanks for asking! Between work changes and my offspring's sporting events I've been pretty busy but I'm hoping I'll be on more frequently. Plus I'm just now getting into some MNS gear that I can start showcasing. Got 1 Neville's Haze and 2 Doors germinated in the interim and have the nevilles and doors #1 flowering now. I definitely didn't time it right and they vegged too long. Got a jungle.

I encourage to post a pic from your plants so others can see for themselves what they can expect from this line.
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I'm no Neville's haze expert but I believe I've got a sativa here! She's overgrown the lights and I'm definitely learning how vigorous she is. I didn't trim alot as I wanted to see how she naturally grows and I'm pretty sure her next run will be little to no veg so I can give her a better run. Just hit 6 weeks yesterday. She's got a ways to go. I'm hoping she finishes with the lemon smells and taste. I'm super excited to see how she does.
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This other tall vigorous lady in front of the nevilles is the Doors #1. She hasn't really even started budding at 6 weeks! When I see posts about the MNS hazes being indica dominant, fast flowering, etc i know that person has very little to no experience with the genetics. I'm sure there are gonna be NL dominant phenos pop up but I don't see that being the norm whatsoever.

Great job on your run @Swifty! One benefit of my absence was a nice chunk of thread to see your progress after I returned. Definitely going to be seeing how this finishes!

Peace,
Fatty
 
Male update:

They are 4-5 weeks into flowering and pollen is flying everywhere now.
I believe I'm slightly allergic to male pollen, I noticed last year when handling them and checking them out that my nose was blocked and I had a soar throat.
After inspecting the males today I had the same thing.😷

19 males were assessed and 3 were culled immediately, they showed male and female parts.
Glad I stress tested them severely.
Of the remaining 16 males I see 7 that show visible trichomes to some degree, these are also the most aromatic of the group.
I will wait until next weekend to make my final judgement, trichome development is my most important criteria, smell and structure second and third.
These resin covered males smell very similar to each other, most are hazy with cola (almost dead on the smell you get when pouring in a glass of Coca Cola).
This has me very excited!

Neville's Haze males show lesser tricomes than Mango Haze or Mango Haze Inbred (or I was just more lucky previous year).
Nonetheless I will let them flower more, smells could change and pherhaps I will see more trichomes in a few weeks (just as with the ladies).

NH male #14:

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NH male #28:

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NH male #40:

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NH male #36:

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NH male #7:

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NH male #26:

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NH male #9:

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One of the hermie males:

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I'm curious how these will evolve further.
 
These are great examples of haze hybrids. A lot of folks either don’t grow enough numbers or are looking for the mythical 8 week sativa and bin the longer ones. I also think everyone’s endocannabinoid system is different and what makes one persons heart race and paranoid might chill the other person out. And lastly I believe there are super relaxing “sativas” and more energizing ones. The quality of high and resin production is what haze is all about, and Mr. Nice and shanti deliver that in spades. I’m so excited for you, @Swifty, it looks like you’re going to be enjoying yourself for months to come.
 
These are great examples of haze hybrids. A lot of folks either don’t grow enough numbers or are looking for the mythical 8 week sativa and bin the longer ones. I also think everyone’s endocannabinoid system is different and what makes one persons heart race and paranoid might chill the other person out. And lastly I believe there are super relaxing “sativas” and more energizing ones. The quality of high and resin production is what haze is all about, and Mr. Nice and shanti deliver that in spades. I’m so excited for you, @Swifty, it looks like you’re going to be enjoying yourself for months to come.
I agree with you Soulman. (y)
Every seed is unique and its about finding the right plant for your needs.
That is why I run as many as I can, a lot more work but with possible more reward.
Nothing comes easy in life.

Thank you!
 
In fact, the difficulty with Hazes is that most of the time they produce better results from clones because they tend to have a lot of genetic diversity and a higher percentage of hermaphrodites than less sativa hybrids.

For those who are unable to keep clones, perhaps the IBL versions of SSH or Mango Haze would be easier to grow from seed.
 
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