Musashi Plays With Fire- The Doors and Neville's Haze

musashi said:
Quick, somebody get these boyz a spliff of some Neville's Haze. Before we get too far off topic, I just want to affirm that Mr. Nice Neville's Haze is the real deal. Terpinolene in spades.

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Old thread, I know, but it's awesome and these colas are RIDICULOUS! I mean seriously, look at them. 😄 They are like old-school frosted Pom Poms. 🤣 Ohh... I wish I didn't have so much already waiting patiently in veg.
 
Have you found out who the mother of The Doors is ?

Can be :
-NL5/Haze C
-NL5/Haze C#122
-NL5/Haze A
-NL5/Haze A#2
-NL5/Haze AC

Has Shanti given any information since then? I asked him around the 2020s but I didn't get an answer.
Maybe he didn't see my message or he was too busy.
 
Yes, that's what everyone thinks but I've never seen Shanti confirm this information.

If we look at the structure of the buds, we see that they are quite large and compact.

Knowing that Haze A seems to give more airy buds (Piff style) it seems likely that the mother is the classic NL5/Haze C.

But who really knows? Apart from Shanti of course.
 
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Zero0 said:
But who really knows? Apart from Shanti of course.
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True, but Shanti is very good about transparency regarding which parents that are used for his various chemovars.

As far as I'm aware, the only cross offered by Shanti which uses a Nl5HzA female, is Nevils Haze. HzA can also be found in Mango Haze, but that is a SkunkHzA father. HzA is still rocking the world with all of Shantis HzAC male crosses.

It would be counterintuitive for Shanti to use the Nl5HzA female in The Doors, and not state so. People are always looking for HzA genotypes. With the Doors already having HzA from the AC male, it'd make sense to advertise such a high percentage of HzA genes.

Actually, I just rembered that Shanti told me via message, that the Nl5Hz used in the Nl5HzZunami is the same mother used in SSH and the Doors. So, there you go. Lol. I knew I remembered seeing somewhere which Haze was used. 😅
 
I never heard of NL5Hz Zunami.

As I said a few years ago perhaps Shanti doesn't want to overshadow her best-seller Neville's Haze, perhaps that's why the genetics of The Doors remain mysterious.

🤔
 
If The Doors has more Haze A than NVH then the smell of The Doors should be closer to church incense than the classic Pine/Lemon/Pepper taste of hybrids using Haze C.

Someone have noticed this kind of aroma in selection of The Doors?
 
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Zero0 said:
I never heard of NL5Hz Zunami.
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Nl5HzZunami was a tester a few of us got to try.

Zero0 said:
As I said a few years ago perhaps Shanti doesn't want to overshadow her best-seller Neville's Haze, perhaps that's why the genetics of The Doors remain mysterious.
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Not so mysterious. He'd state if it wasn't HzC. Like I said, he told me it's the same mother as SSH. I'd suggest messaging him again, if it's that important to you or if you don't believe me. I don't want to take up any more of Mu's thread.
 
I'm not going to bother Shanti again with these kinds of details and it's not that important to me.

But since I see all the hype around "Piff hazes" I was curious to know.

Finally, if Shanti confirmed that the mother was the same as SSH then it is indeed NL5/Haze C which is used in The Doors.
 
lozac123 said:
What ever came of these two (3) @musashi ?
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They were lost along with my original Master Kush, 5 Hz, AC/DC, Jack Herer, Diesel, MoX, but remain in my crosses.

@Diesel840, @Zero0:
When you think about it, as the AC came after "The Naturals" were established, it made sense to cross these special cultivars, Nordle, MKS, CM, EQ, 5Hz, BW thus creating the R&R series.

mu
 
musashi said:
Quick, somebody get these boyz a spliff of some Neville's Haze. Before we get too far off topic, I just want to affirm that Mr. Nice Neville's Haze is the real deal. Terpinolene in spades.

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Thank you Mu for getting back to me. As I progess further through my own grow at the moment, I get to the point of wondering what I want to try next. But this photo honestly is just so incredible. I've never noticed it before, but can I quiz you on your style of growing on this pic? Have you bent down the main buds, so that they are horizontal to the light? If you did, when did you do this Mu? At the start of flowering or later on? Thanks man
 
Aloha @lozac123! I LST’d quite a bit in the past as the room was crowded and plants start bumping into the HPS lights. I have a little more room with LED usage in the other half of the room now as they afford more ceiling clearance. But as you know sometimes secondary buds can benefit from the vertical energy of the plant. Those Nevil’s, Holy Grails and Holy Smokes are ceiling ticklers for sure. I suppose I could crop but I don’t have as much lateral room when growing 20+ plants in the room and yield is not my primary focus. I don’t like crowding plants for air circulation and pest management reasons. I also hand water and need to maneuver around the plants. I start LST probably in 3rd-4th week of flower if I observe plants that are shootin for the stars but I do prefer not molesting my plants at all if I can help it. Put em in the pot, water them, leave them alone, let them blossom. Sorry, somewhat fragmented this morn as I just finished a joint of Angel’s Breath lol.

mu
 
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