funny debates guys as always
i have deep respect to work by ace and cbg folks! in those times, they are rulers of sativa genopool, all others are without doubt far away from them
you can speculating how much of what they offering are polyhybrids, but you dont think about work behind those, due to which i like them as they go way i personally like too
they tried a lot first hand landraces from all around the world, grew tens and thousands of, and of course did a lot preservation matings, but simply more or less for personal purposes
just the selected spectacular individuals are choose for producing commercially attractive sativas (of which is even so poor interest), or matings with other related bloods like that double thai etc
they are very kind and im sure if you hit them with some individual question, you will amazed what they can provide from their libary
so this is far away from taking diesel and crossing to another modern cultivar, which again produce +- equal quality
for example kaiki from cbg have killer collection of various colombians, already a lot preselected clones keep, but as he says if he want do a more over his standard, will ending with less, they are truly careful in what they doing, im sure lotsa goodies like columbian hybrids will come in next years
mentioned THAI is nice example for it all.. guys you have had here between us amazing oldtimer who tried many thais from various regions he collected himself in 80, he leaved this place due to bullshit all around
and as he said, just may 2-3 individuals from 100 thais are worth interest, all others lacking something (e.g. good potency but poor flower formation even at 24week) and even so
therefore if somebody offering selected Koh Chang female dusted with proven n amazing Meao thai male, then it is a demand