Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid

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Interesting thread JessE. Who is this Jim Dankness who uses my photo for his Avatar and councils us not to delve into Sams past? Some spin doctor whose post seems to get it's credence from this quote:
An expert on Ortega apparently lol ;). Its funny you mention the avatar, as I had also caught on to that one, especially in light of his attitude towards yourself and Skunkman. I always thought that was highly suspicious. Careful though, he may be like the candyman, say his name three times and...

Oh and BTW, I was never Sams partner as one article stated.
N.
Thanks for the clarification, as I had always wondered about that. I had wrote that due to knowledge passed on to me about the origins of a strain Im currently working with this season. Perhaps a mix up of exacts due to the nature of sharing information online.
 
Hi Scorp,

I was thinking noone had saved this picture. I posted it by two times once on CW and once on Icmag. On CW the only person who replied to my post was Shanti. At that time I thought nobody seemed to care.

I can see now that I was wrong.

Peace.
K.

Is that the famous "C" male?
 
Is that the famous "C" male?

This picture was taken in 2003 at GBT when I visited the MNS breeding facilities during the good old days in Switzerland. During the visit I was told by Scott that this was a pure Haze male. I might have misunderstood what he told me then as I was very excited but I am quasi sure this is the HzC.

Nev, could you tell us if it is really him?

Peace.

K.
 
I find describing the smell and high of cannabis difficult, yet the two are most definitely linked. I also find that complexity of smell and high are also linked.
Taking the Mustang Nepalese I once had as an example, the smell was between pine and camphor. But not a blend of both, that would make it too complex, it had a kind of singular quality about it. The high was the same. It was as if the plant was acting as a prism that translates the full spectrum of sunlight into a single colour. Colour changes to sound and a high pitched note is left ringing in your mind. The note contains a sense of alarm, impending danger, a feeling that it's too late. You imagine, this is what it feels like after you have jumped off a cliff without a parachute, but before you land. You feel more alive, alert and somehow more fully conscious, but there is an implied warning in the effect.
The smell was telling me all this. Like a musician being handed sheet music, you knew what the song was before you heard a note.

The Oaxacan, in my memory, was much more complex. It was fruity, but had tang, with a full bodied sweetness, more fruit salad than just fruit.. The smell had the promise of leading to something delicious and it did. It was strong, yet it had balance. If the Nepalese was playing high C, the Oaxacan was playing a chord with resonance. It was a comfortable feeling, high yet grounded, profound and content. I am reminded more of a beach party, a celebration of life, (Shakira shaking her arse comes to mind).
It had the well rounded high of an Indica /Sativas hybrid, without being one.
This Mexican Sativa was no accident of nature. I'm sure it was bred by a Master with a love for life.
N.

If the Oaxacan that comes out in the sensi cross called Mexican sativa is close to the flavor you are describing then I know exactly where to find it in cuidad Oaxaca. That is the Lima Limon.
 
Not sure how these relate but he is some older photos of Haze A5 and C5.

Snow

A5
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C5
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BTW. I have beans called Realy Good Hope - it can be Northern Lights (#?) x Haze cross... know somebody more about? i wish germinate it this winter.

(sorry for lenght of this post and my english)

Gday Bohempian, beautiful photos mate.

I received 2 seeds of RGD as freebies from Legends. After researching i discovered RGD stands for "Really Good Dope" and they're a NL5 x Haze cross. I assume thats what you are talking about. I was excited to sprout them but only 1 sprouted and it was totally mutant - it had the first set of single serated leaves but no tip growing from it! eventually a tip (branch) started growing from the node at the very first round leaves! I sprouted 30 other seeds at the same time as these and had 100% success rate so it wasn't my germinating process that was the problem. I think they must be very old seeds and/or stored incorectly. So give them a go mate but don't get to excited about them and i would plant back up seeds as well.
 
Line breeding to a specific ancestors in say the 4th remove does not create a stable hybrid.
It does however narrow down the gene pool, increasing the incidence of a lucky dip.
It will take time to test the various matings, I was...er, counting on a bit of help.
No doubt, when the best lines have been selected, new possibilities will present themselves, but my bet is that the best of the upcoming hybrids will take a long time beating. I want to be sure that we don't slip back from this new position.
N.
 
Who is this Jim Dankness who uses my photo for his Avatar and councils us not to delve into Sams past?

Hi Nev,

I'm just a humble grower who's let his mouth run away with him a time or two (as I'm sure JessE can attest). I've stirred the pot around here a bit in the past, I'll admit. I dislike the suggestion that I'm somehow in cahoots with the Skunkman, though I have in the past had an over-inflated respect for the guy that I've begun to get under control. I'm not really sure what I believe anymore, as time has proven some things false, and more of the participants have begun to chime in with their versions. These days I'm just trying to be a better listener.

Of course, I meant no harm-- only the greatest respect-- by using your photograph as my avatar, as the 'King of the Cannabis Castle' article was one of the things that got me started on this weird journey. Sincerest apologies; I'll happily take it down.

I never in my wildest dreams thought that you'd join us here on the internet, freely dispensing wisdom, philosophy and history. This Grail project has certainly got my attention, because all I've wanted for years is the perfect Haze in my garden... and I'm still searching for it!

Warmest regards,
j.d
 
Hi kashgari !

Good to see you joined in man! Long time no see..I remember you from the CW days and I surely do remember that nice Haze C pic of yours ;) Glad to see Scorpion saved it and still has it
Welcome to the mns forums man , great to have you here
 
"The first Cannabis cup was at my house so this knowitall doesn't know much. For sure.
..."

Hi Nev ,

I read your post on the first CCup , do you remember the year the first C.Cup took place ?

Any info on the samples entered would be appreciated.
From your post I presume the info about the C. Cup taking place in the restaurant of The Royal Cannabis Family in Rotterdam is false:

www.cannabiscupwinners.com said:
"The first Cannabis Cup, What Happened?, way back in 1987...

Eventhough most witnesses to this event are still alive today, the ganja back then appeared to be SO strong that CannabisCupWinners.com could not find out wether it actually took place in 87 or 88. There are no conclusive details on what shit came from who, or even who smoked it. So far, what we think we know is, that it was held in the restaurant of 'The Royal Cannabis Family' in Rotterdam."

info from : http://www.cannabiscupwinners.com/hightimes-cup-winners4.shtml
 
Surely High Times documented all this stuff. I remember getting everyone wasted by throwing a bucket of ground bud over the glowing coals in the fire place and then getting them to inhale the smoke. It gave new meaning to the bucket method.
N.
BTW who the fuck is the The Royal Cannabis Family' in Rotterdam."
 
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Grail !

Nevil, I know the POWER!! of NH from an experience. Many people around the World have tried to do this many,many times and have failed. If I was you, I would just improve Nevilles Haze. After all, it hasn't been available for 10 years. Just a thought? as this NH is the Grai! resinbud :)
 
I didn't say the bag was labeled burning bush. Sam said something about burning bush being an ancestor of the Haze. If Sam is Knowsitall4sure then he didn't smoke Haze til '71.
If that's true, what would he know about seeds made by somebody else 2 years before he had even smoked the variety?
N.
I didn't say the bag was labeled burning bush. Sam said something about burning bush being an ancestor of the Haze
sorry for misquoting or mis understanding you

this would mean what ive said all along ,the stock SAMS had/works with was his work he crossed which is why its thai dom,which is why the thai was present in the MNS haze parents
If that's true, what would he know about seeds made by somebody else 2 years before he had even smoked the variety
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i feel the exact same ,another piece which makes things more clear


1luvbigherb
 
Let me tell you what Sam told me about the origin of SK1.

Some boys were growing some Afghani, Mexican and I'm not sure whether he said Thai or Columbian or both, in a remote area. He came back after some years and there it was, a fully stabilised hybrid. It just developed all by itself.

Honest to God, it's what he told me!
N.
 
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