questions for Nevil

[L33t]

Hi Nevil,

To be honest, I don't remember selling pure haze seeds at all and I don't remember making a contact with Sam about what I might do with the few plants that might come up from the 15 year old seeds that I paid thousands for.
I do remember Sam waffling on about how he should get royalties for everything that passed through his hands. Of course this was after I started having success with them.
You can't take everything anyone says seriously you know.
N.

This is a seedlist with some of your genetics (seeds) that someone had gotten from you back in the old days. List was posted over icmag forums:

swazi x swazi-'88 -200
SA B* x sa 1^ -50
HZC2 x5AC 3^ -50
HAW SAT x HZC -200
HZC2 -200
HZ2 x 5ac 2^ -50
HZC2 x 5AC1^-50
HP x HZA -100
5SKC1 x 5A2C(A)-150
HP.1 x SK7 M 7.1 -150
SK185 (1)* x SK185^ '88-50
5SKC1 x 5A1(E) -50
5SKC1 x HzC2A -150
5SKC1 x 5A2C (B)^-150
SK17 x HZA^ -150
5SKC1 x 5A2C(c)^-150
5SKC1 x 5A2C(d)^-100
ORT x ORT '88-150
EP^'89 xEP*'87 '03-85
DURBAN x HZC -100
G 13 x HZC '90 -1000
HP x HZA -100

Seems that this person got some HzCxHzC which as you explained is pure Haze , HzC squared.
The "200" number next to the strain name , refers to number of seeds recieved.

But I have not seen any pure Hz offering in old catalogs from you. Tho I haven't seen all year's old catalogs.
By the way there seems to be a HZC2 x 5AC1 offerering in that list , do you remember how this crossing worked out?

 

[british_hempire]

The three that catch my eye from that list are HP x HZA, Durban x HZC and Haw Sat x HZC.

 

[bigherb]

To be honest, I don't remember selling pure haze seeds at all and I don't remember making a contact with Sam about what I might do with the few plants that might come up from the 15 year old seeds that I paid thousands for.
I do remember Sam waffling on about how he should get royalties for everything that passed through his hands. Of course this was after I started having success with them.
You can't take everything anyone says seriously you know.
N.

nevil

your quick reply is appreciated

You can't take everything anyone says seriously you know

from my life experiences ,its sad but there are very few i believe or trust ,especially david

I do remember Sam waffling on about how he should get royalties for everything that passed through his hands

im not bitter,or trying to rag him ,but since you say this again,IMO its sad that he could try to put his name on or profit from others work .

since you dont recall selling pure haze such as HZbc or HZC2 ,i gather at some time you would have kindly passed these genetics to friends such as the clone only's in S.holland

now with the list that has just been posted ,does this ring a belll as somthing sold or was this just a chart of your work .its great to see somone might have experienced hzc2/hzbc

I don't remember making a contact with Sam about what I might do with the few plants that might come up from the 15 year old seeds that I paid thousands for

from your post above i guess it's safe to say that the line and post from SAMS i quoted was BS and you havnt actually done any bredding with SAMS


always appreciated


1luvbigherb

 

[50 CENT]

So if the nl5hzC is the superior cross, why wasnt it offered in The Seedbanks catalogue? Just didnt happen yeh?
And how was it distributed then? Was it offered through Sensi later on?

 

[Nevil]

So if the nl5hzC is the superior cross, why wasnt it offered in The Seedbanks catalogue? Just didnt happen yeh?
And how was it distributed then? Was it offered through Sensi later on?

It was, that's what I sold.
Sensi had it too for a while, it seems they've lost it but I don't know for sure.
N.

 

[Nevil]

Any suggestions on where to look for good thai lines?

Hawaai, Australia and PNG.
N.

 

[bigherb]

It was, that's what I sold.
Sensi had it too for a while, it seems they've lost it but I don't know for sure.
N.

WOW,i believe this is a first and if i understand correctly i will be ordering a pack as soon as you answer this post

out of all the numerous questions ive asked ,this just might be most important


mind you im not familiar with the catalouges anymore than whats been posted .but im confused


are you sayin the famous nl5haze that you sold from 89 was nl5hazeC n this is exactly what is offered now ?


i understand you said this is your best indica/sativa hybrid you ever done.but i thought this was just your opinion,as its been known/reported that the old sensi seed offering was the nl5hazeA,which i thought was more obvious after you have reported the darker liver/leather traits from haze A

that picture on the cover of the 1990 catalog

Is NL5HzA. The mother of Nevil's Haze

.
the plant i dream of

please when you have the time to answer this can you tell me exactly what you meant in the quoted post, caz i dont recall 2 nl5haze offerings



1luvbigherb

 

[50 CENT]

as unc said it be best to pm shanti

but i can tell you that nl5haze is offered ,using the haze C parent

this is not the same nl5haze that nevil offered at the seedbank which used the haze A.

as for the old nl5haze ,id love to see this released (as all haze lovers do) ,although not probable i thinks its possible


1luvbigherb

Hi BH, so nl5xhzC was the one offered. N just confirmed.
Or am I missing some piece of info?

Nl5xhzC is what I want to offer my mj community, N's opinion is all I need, and now in my mind it is the best strain/hybrid in its effects and practicality as an indoor cultivar.

Edit: I can see you have already posted big herb!

 

[Nevil]

I don't know if F1 5Hz can be made any more. I doubt it, but a number of MNS strains are made with the best daughters. These too will one day die and these seeds will be the stuff of legends. Haven't you got any saved in your fridge for the future? Maybe you are counting on the era of prohibition ending before more gets lost in busts and calamities. Good luck with that!
N
P.S. Any one got any well stored NL5Hz F1s from the '80s or early '90s? They might be worth a bit of money!

 

[bigherb]

I don't know if F1 5Hz can be made any more. I doubt it, but a number of MNS strains are made with the best daughters. These too will one day die and these seeds will be the stuff of legends. Haven't you got any saved in your fridge for the future? Maybe you are counting on the era of prohibition ending before more gets lost in busts and calamities. Good luck with that!
N
P.S. Any one got any well stored NL5Hz F1s from the '80s or early '90s? They might be worth a bit of money!

cant you reverse the female to male as you have reversed the male to female ,if im correct

im sure ill grab them ,id love to have those seeds (nl5hazeC) but i understand haze C to be sweet ,you kno how i feel

in NYC around my way we say if it anint church it anint fire
more incense and less nonsense

im hopin you could give some input on my last post(my most important question till later lol)

i think they be worth a small country to some of us or a yooungest child,but im surprised you ask the question, i thought for sure they'd be in mns valuts



1luvbigherb

 

[Nevil]

If you have unanswered questions, list them. If I can answer yes or no, even better. I feel like I'm repeating myself and I'm having trouble understanding what people don't understand.
N.

 

[Bean Cracker]

If you have unanswered questions, list them. If I can answer yes or no, even better.

I'll bite at this one.

1. Is NL1 and Ortega the same line? The current Ortega offering is being billed as NL1xNL1. Others have said Ortega and NL1 are not the same line.

2. The NL5 selection that you used in your crosses, was it from the US clone or from NL5 seed? Many are curious because of the new MNS NL5xHzC offering. Shanti said the new offering comes from your old NL5 seed stock.

I'm not asking about the selection criteria of the new offerings, but am asking if you can give a lineage lesson to us about the Ortega, NL1 and NL5 lines and selections that you made.

 

[Nevil]

someone who knows would be cool.

These are questions for Shanti. Australia is a very isolated place. I would have only smoked a couple of the MNS strains being sold today.
N.

 

[Nevil]

1. Is NL1 and Ortega the same line? The current Ortega offering is being billed as NL1xNL1. Others have said Ortega and NL1 are not the same line.

No.
NL1xNL1. is not Ortega
I did make a NL1 X Ortega. Maybe my labelling was confusing.
I didn't make any of the current offerings but most contain my work.
N.

 

[L33t]

Hi all

hi Nevil

I understand that NL5HzC seed was sold through both Sensi and TSB back in the day but was NL5HzA seed ever released through a seedbank or only used for breeding ?

 

[Nevil]

was NL5HzA seed ever released through a seedbank or only used for breeding ?

The male was taken from us much too early. I crossed it to the important cuttings and some of these were handed out, but not much. Some are still alive.
N.

 

[L33t]

hi all
hi Nevil ,

thank you very much for the reply


Hi Sensimilla,

So, have you heard from Shanti what the new release of NL5xHaze C is like?

Although not 100% certain , I believe Shanti said somewhere that he went through old NL seeds , seeds that NL5 originated from and did a new selection to cross to HzC male. So if I m not mistaken Shanti found a new NL5 'replacement' to create the NL5HzC current offering.
His post is here at the forums somewhere or over icmag.

hope this helps

 

[L33t]

found it

here is the post I refered to:

"Hope that helped. Thought you may like to know I have just germinated some stock seed from 1988 where the original Northern lights 5 originated from...and got an excellent germination rate to date about 55 germinated from 80 seeds after 2 days.

Here is hoping we can find something of interest for you all....take care all the best Sb"

full post link:https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1137196&postcount=24

So I believe that the NL5HzC current offering from Shanti uses a plant he found from that old seedstock.

l33t

 

[Billy Liar]

found it

here is the post I refered to:



full post link:https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1137196&postcount=24

So I believe that the NL5HzC current offering from Shanti uses a plant he found from that old seedstock.

l33t

So it seems the current offering should be an F1 of NL#5 (new selection ie. full sister to the original NL5) x HazeC (same plant used for the original C5)
This means it could be very different no? for example the only difference between SSh and Mango Haze is that the mothers were both full sister to each other but the same father was used...And they are different.
Both MH and SSH are great though so I would hope this to be the case with the new NL5xHzC.
Some clarification would be great, as I'm planning to breed with it and knowing what you are working with helps..
peace
BL

 

[joshuahazen]

If you have unanswered questions, list them. If I can answer yes or no, even better. I feel like I'm repeating myself and I'm having trouble understanding what people don't understand.
N.

Questions:

Is Nevil's Haze stronger(more potent) than the original NL#5XHz parent?



What are your current MNS offered haze hybrid favorites, listed in order(best first)?



Thank you,