questions for Nevil

Billy Liar said:
So it seems the current offering should be an F1 of NL#5 (new selection ie. full sister to the original NL5) x HazeC (same plant used for the original C5)
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Hi BL,

like I stated ealier , I 'm not 100% sure that this is actually the case , just what I believe to be the case..
Only Shanti can tell you for sure what the real case is.
Billy Liar said:
This means it could be very different no?
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The result could be different , how much I can't say but shouldn't be very different imo. Plus Shanti's breeding skills make me 'feel safe' , I trust his judgment so I believe that the outcome will be of top quality irregardless of the actual mother plant used.

Billy Liar said:
for example the only difference between SSh and Mango Haze is that the mothers were both full sister to each other but the same father was used...And they are different.
Both MH and SSH are great though so I would hope this to be the case with the new NL5xHzC.
Some clarification would be great, as I'm planning to breed with it and knowing what you are working with helps..
peace
BL
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SSH is NL5HzC1 x SK1HzC and MH is NL5HzC122 x SKHzA

So the 2 strain mothers , NL5Hz1 and NL5Hz122 , are sisters but the father plants of SSH and MH are also different , SSH uses SK1HzC father and MH a SK1HzA. So its expected to see some difference between these 2 strains. as they don't actually share a parent.
Shanti had posted these 2 lines ,SSH and MH, share the same Haze parent not same (strain) parent. I believe he meant they share same haze parent on the mothers side. NL5Hz1 and NL5Hz122 use both HzC..

l33t
 
NL5/HzC x HzA?

Nevil said:
The male was taken from us much too early. I crossed it to the important cuttings and some of these were handed out, but not much. Some are still alive.
N.
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I was wondering: If NevHz is made up of NL5/HzA x HzC, why was the NL5/HzC x HzA never made?
I think i found the main reason now... :(

Nevil, was the reason of this missing hybrid due to the fact you lost the HzA so soon and if so, did you ever speculate about this crossing in taste, aroma and effect? Sounds like another grail-hybrid to me...

I always found that the NL5HzA was the killer smoke. I grew and smoked both of them (5HzA and 5HzC - the F1 clone only's from the '80) for years and always found the 5HzC to be a much mor friendly herb to smoke. Definitively more complex in taste and aroma's compaired to the 5HzA. However i believe that the most legendary strain ever made by you, Nevil, was and is, in my oppinion, clearly the 5HzA. The strongest herb i've ever smoked, truly narcotic.
Regards,
Y.Sam
 
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Yosemite Sam said:
I was wondering: If NevHz is made up of NL5/HzA x HzC, why was the NL5/HzC x HzA never made?
I think i found the main reason now... :(

I always found that the NL5HzA was the killer smoke. I grew and smoked both of them (5HzA and 5HzC - the F1 clone only's from the '80) for years and always found the 5HzC to be a much mor friendly herb to smoke. Deffinatly more complex in taste and aroma's then the 5HzA but i believe that the most legendary strain ever made by you Nevil was and is, in my oppinion, clearly the 5HzA. The strongest herb i've ever smoked, truly narcotic.
Regards,
Y.Sam
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nice to see you post hows it goin ,how was that NH after cure

thanks for sharing your experiences


we/I can only hope she survives and hopfully one day we can have a taste ,by way of reversing or which ever method possible


1luvbigherb
 
confused now...

Hi peeps, hi lee t
I'm almost 99% sure I recall shanti posting that the only difference between MH and SSH was that the mothers were full sisters.... But nevermind, I also thought I'd never be involved in this type of disscussion... LOL
I know shanti's busy, but I think it would be fare at some point to let us all know what we are buying, or stating that something need to remain secret so only MNS can offer certain strains...
I REALLY hope that what I said earlier is true, that the current NL5XHz is a F1 using a full sister to the original NL5 cut.... and the classic infamous HzC male... Because that 50% haze hybrid WILL be killer. Making my 2 plants and my 10 seeds my most prized possesions.... Hehee.
Peace
BL
 
Somewhere around here Nev explains the loss of the HzA male. I'll post the link if I can find it. The closest you can get to it is...I think...Nl5HzA, SkHzA..uh...I forgot the other..maybe AfHzA.
 
Billy Liar said:
Hi peeps, hi lee t
I REALLY hope that what I said earlier is true, that the current NL5XHz is a F1 using a full sister to the original NL5 cut.... and the classic infamous HzC male... Because that 50% haze hybrid WILL be killer. Making my 2 plants and my 10 seeds my most prized possesions.... Hehee.
Peace
BL
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Hey Billy,
I also have some new 5HzC beans waiting to be popped and i hope that the new 5HzC is of the same quality than the OSH 5HzC. I'm sure Shanti will bring the best possible hybrid on the market. It will be different than the old line but doesn't necessarily mean it will be less potent or tastefull. I'm very curious to the difference in pheno types that will appear.



cannatari said:
Somewhere around here Nev explains the loss of the HzA male. I'll post the link if I can find it. The closest you can get to it is...I think...Nl5HzA, SkHzA..uh...I forgot the other..maybe AfHzA.
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Hi C.
I don't think the Afghani was crossed with the HzA. Maybe you refer to the HPxHzA?

Regards,
Y. Sam
 
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nevil

my apologies for not being clear and confusing you abit ,im surprised and most thankful for you answering l33t Q's


im curious to know ?

quote from you
that picture on the cover of the 1990 catalog

Is NL5HzA. The mother of Nevil's Haze
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why did you choose to use the NL5HzA on the cover of the 90 seedbank catalouge ,if you only offered NL5HzC for sale?



1luvbigherb
 
bigherb said:
nevil

my apologies for not being clear and confusing you abit ,im surprised and most thankful for you answering l33t Q's


im curious to know ?

quote from you



why did you choose to use the NL5HzA on the cover of the 90 seedbank catalouge ,if you only offered NL5HzC for sale?



1luvbigherb
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Hi Bigherb :)
Well knowing that both HzA and Hz C are related varieties (separate for sure from lines which have assimilated similar terminology in an attempt to confuse consumers and layman alike by associating their lines with those legendary lines of the MNS camp) they (both haze A and Haze C) are not exactly completely separate lines. So both lines are closely related, though likely they had their own unique profiles/personalities and individual nuances to seperate them from one another with any kind of time spent analyzing their attributes. Though Shanti had requested we not bombard Nevil with so many questions, I would always be interested in hearing what Mr. Schmeville :D has to tell us lads about the days of phone sex lines, $35 ounces and Bruce Springsteen.
 
Billy Liar said:
Hi peeps, hi lee t
I'm almost 99% sure I recall shanti posting that the only difference between MH and SSH was that the mothers were full sisters.... But nevermind, I also thought I'd never be involved in this type of disscussion... LOL
I know shanti's busy, but I think it would be fare at some point to let us all know what we are buying, or stating that something need to remain secret so only MNS can offer certain strains...
I REALLY hope that what I said earlier is true, that the current NL5XHz is a F1 using a full sister to the original NL5 cut.... and the classic infamous HzC male... Because that 50% haze hybrid WILL be killer. Making my 2 plants and my 10 seeds my most prized possesions.... Hehee.
Peace
BL
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u remind me of myself Bill, helps your head rest on your pillow at night to be CERTAIN that your holding the best of the best.
But like L33t says rest assured in Shantis selections, things (unfortunatley or not?) cannot always stay the same. Short of acquiring an original clone you are probably holding the closest thing on earth to what N calls his best ever hybrid.
The details will become clearer when Shanti comes round, but IMO you got what your looking for.

As an aside, the NL5 side of things is what turns me on most, wish i had a warehouse full at 8wks right now, maybe with Nev standing beside me laughing, that would be fun.
 
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JessE said:
Hi Bigherb :)
Well knowing that both HzA and Hz C are related varieties (separate for sure from lines which have assimilated similar terminology in an attempt to confuse consumers and layman alike by associating their lines with those legendary lines of the MNS camp) they (both haze A and Haze C) are not exactly completely separate lines. So both lines are closely related, though likely they had their own unique profiles/personalities and individual nuances to seperate them from one another with any kind of time spent analyzing their attributes. Though Shanti had requested we not bombard Nevil with so many questions, I would always be interested in hearing what Mr. Schmeville :D has to tell us lads about the days of phone sex lines, $35 ounces and Bruce Springsteen.
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good day jesse

its well known both lines are related ,but id like to the reason to my question,only nevil can explain


Though Shanti had requested we not bombard Nevil with so many questions, I would always be interested in hearing what Mr. Schmeville :D has to tell us lads about the days of phone sex lines, $35 ounces and Bruce Springsteen.[/
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i have similar interest ,my hope was to really have that private one on one time though :)


1luvbigherb
 
well i have a question for nevil or anybody who might have an answer for me

i running some medman at the moment
and i found this
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is there anybody who can tell me what it is
i know it is a sticky residu sweating from the leaves
when i burn it it smell like hash
can this be hash oil?
and does this say something about the potency of the plant
hoping for some answer cos i have no clue

haze73
 
haze73 said:
well i have a question for nevil or anybody who might have an answer for me

i running some medman at the moment
and i found this
picture.php


is there anybody who can tell me what it is
i know it is a sticky residu sweating from the leaves
when i burn it it smell like hash
can this be hash oil?
and does this say something about the potency of the plant
hoping for some answer cos i have no clue

haze73
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Looks like 'honeydew' a secretion made by aphids when farmed by ants
 
Question for Jesse

JessE said:
Hi Bigherb :)
Well knowing that both HzA and Hz C are related varieties (separate for sure from lines which have assimilated similar terminology in an attempt to confuse consumers and layman alike by associating their lines with those legendary lines of the MNS camp) they (both haze A and Haze C) are not exactly completely separate lines. So both lines are closely related, though likely they had their own unique profiles/personalities and individual nuances to seperate them from one another with any kind of time spent analyzing their attributes. Though Shanti had requested we not bombard Nevil with so many questions, I would always be interested in hearing what Mr. Schmeville :D has to tell us lads about the days of phone sex lines, $35 ounces and Bruce Springsteen.
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Hey Jesse,
Did you ever smoke or grow the original 5HzA and/or 5HzC?
Just curious.
Regards,
Y.Sam
 
etzchaim said:
Looks like 'honeydew' a secretion made by aphids when farmed by ants
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i know for 100% that there are no animals in the garden
i am pretty sure it is comming from the leaves itself
i dried some and i pretty much looks like hash oil
i dont know if thats possible but i never seen it before

haze73
 
haze73 said:
well i have a question for nevil or anybody who might have an answer for me

i running some medman at the moment
and i found this
picture.php


is there anybody who can tell me what it is
i know it is a sticky residu sweating from the leaves
when i burn it it smell like hash
can this be hash oil?
and does this say something about the potency of the plant
hoping for some answer cos i have no clue

haze73
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looks like sap to me as it's only on vains on the leaf. i have had little spots like that but not as much. i don't know if it will get you high try it and find out haze73 i have never had enough for it to be worth trying.
 
I've seen these secretions before, although they are somewhat rare....taste the sap, it should be sweet, like sugar water.
 
NL5/5HzAx5HzC vs NL5/HzCxHzA

Hey Nevil,

Your most famous Haze named after you by certain individuals in Holland is off course NevHz witch is made up of NL5/HzAxHzC.
Why did you never made the hybrid NL5/HzCxHzA?
Was it due to the early loss of the male AHz?

Regards,
Y.Sam
 
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