Who has the real RoadKill Skunk ?

[imsupernice]

G `day BS

Yep I`m deep cover ...

Jingles wrote articles on how to grow for Sensimilla Tips in the 1970s .
Senginj is Jingles spelt back wards . And is quoted in the Hashish book by RC Clarke . Selnginj told me he was in Afghanistan in 1971 .

So 40 + years ago he was helping people learnt to grow weed and to understand how hash is made .
G man fer sure !

I think the Dr. FrankenWeedStein Is a name some one else gave him for their piece of journalism .

The others pretty clearly identify him as Sam or Sam Skunk Man . Not exactly change of identity .

What other astonishing news do you have ?

Thanks for sharin

EB .

Guys please, let's get back to roadkill skunk, if the theory that it was in usa before holland, what landraces play a part in it, mexican, colombian and afghani ?. And which one gives it that crazy skunk roadkill stench that was removed or added in holland, would be nice to know

Is it simply acapulco gold, colombian gold and afghani and you can have that stench, or theres something else to it and do we know for sure skunk is a mix of those 3, how can we be so sure.

The fact of the matter is, everyone around me is obsessed with roadkill skunk, if it was created once, it can be done again, the person would just need the recipe, might be specific phenos of the landraces crossed in a specific way since it look likes 3 way hybrid or more ?

I'm starting to believe this roadkill skunk thing is just legendary and maybe people are just having memories of overhyping the past like every human is doing since a very long time, past is always embelished compared to the present. They might just had a very stinky skunk that you could find in mr.nice seeds who knows ?

more questions than answer

Thanks

 

[Broseidon]

Yeah c'mon,

feels like IC over here.
Good discussion with interesting perspectives, opinions and ideas, just to be derailed in the later pages into a pissing contest.

That's the stuff that normally doesn't happen here and why I prefer this forum over so many others.

If I am looking for peepee contests, I might as well go over to IC because there are more members --> more peepees to contest...

 

[musashi]

...and do we know for sure skunk is a mix of those 3, how can we be so sure...

Easy, procure a sample from your chosen area of "certain" origination, circa 1982 and test it.

...I'm starting to believe this roadkill skunk thing is just legendary and maybe people are just having memories of overhyping the past like every human is doing since a very long time, past is always embelished compared to the present...

Bingo!
Many sides to the story besides the over-insistent one-person-did-it-all narrative. Many points of entry into the West Coast then, including Hawaii. While the boys in SCruz (same haoles who invented surfing/s) were the first to get their story on paper and would like to take all the credit, there were farmers from Imperial Beach to Tofino growing bagseed as well as seed got from overseas travellers at roughly the same time, if not before. Unsung heroes are the Latino migrant workers who travelled and worked the entire West Coast. Hell, they were bringing mota in during the 1920's. They played a large part in proliferation. Many points of entry, many forms of distribution. Before sensi went full sensi, there was cross pollination which occurred garden to garden as well as the recombination of seeds that were grown from baggies. Lots of fragrant pot then. To try to put a dot on it...

The funny thing about it all is if you took a bag a RKS skunk today and put it in front of a bunch of people, they would still argue their asses off that it was or wasn't the real thing, whatever that ever was.

Believe what you want to believe but the person who really created RKS was from Hawaii. I'd give you his name but it has 19 letters in it and I wouldn't want to misspell it lol

Aloha
M

 

[Marcus_in_the_Darkus]

(same haoles who invented surfing/s)

I lol'd at that!

 

[Hootigh]

I would say that it is the afghans in skunk that gave it the RKS you are looking for. I can't say with definitive proof as i was not even alive during the time of this plants popularity but the terpenes i would say sound closer to garlic bud than much else to me.

And to recreate this strain how would you go about it ?
Otherwise if it wasnt the afghans and the true lineage is Acapulco gold and columbian gold what then? Havent these been gone for a long time? Heck if not Shanti and MNS crew i want an Acapulco gold X Haze AC

 

[musashi]

Back to skunk, I am thinking that what was known as skunk in Cali in the 1970s were likely multiple strains developed by multiple people in multiple places. In my experience it showed up all over Central California at about the same time. As seen here, there are people that insist that it was bred in different places in California (or Holland). So I do not think that it was from one hybrid, but several. Which would explain the differences say between David Watson's Skunk #1, Uncle Fester's Skunk #18. If you look at the genetic comparisons on Phylos Galaxy there are about a dozen Skunk #1 strains tested. David Watson's Skunk #1 is related to dozens of strains. Wonderland Slunk 1988 is also related to dozens of (different) strains. Whereas Uncle Fester's Skunk #18 is not related to Skunk #1, Skunk 1988, or any other strains tested. Note that of the dozen or so skunk #1 phenos that have been tested, several are not related and have no closely related strains at all. Which would mean that everyone is right about the origins of skunk weed, as it has to be multiple strains from multiple origins and multiple hybrids. Otherwise they would all be closely genetically related.

I agree with this line of reasoning. BS makes a convincing case. This was my observation from S. Oregon/N. California at that time. Santa Rosa weed had similarities to Santa Cruz weed (Bay area). Ashland weed shared similarities to weed out of Eureka (NorCal area). The weed in Eugene (Willamette Valley) had a slightly different stinky smell. Each area had their own version of stinky, fragrant weed. Just as there are differences in the Pinot grown in the Willamette versus Napa; weather, soil, epigenetics played a part.
Another aspect of proliferation not discussed is the PCT- Pacific Crest Trail. People of all walks of life, from all over the world have walked this trail from Mexico to Canada. Like the Camino de Santiago it is a pilgrimage/trade route in a way. Currency takes a different form as everything gets traded for some reason or another during the journey. Heroin, akvavit, armagnac, Nepalese hash, a lot of weed (with seeds!) from all over the country was enjoyed and shared. These are all dim recollections, and like the Led Zeppelin concert in Detroit in '72, it was a very long time ago.






Aloha
M

 

[PlantManBee]

Yay!

Like I have been saying, it's NOT one plant. It's a wide swathe of plants with similar mixed backgrounds.

 

[Big Sur]

Several things come to mind about RKS. One is that I have had, held, smoked and gotten high on fairly stinky skunk weed in the later 1970s. Not paint peeling, but skunk stench. Skunk, not funk. It was local grown sinsemilla from various places. Back then, growing sinsemilla, breeding, hybrids with indica strain seeds, hermaphrodites, etc. were all pretty new to most people. Few good books were available on growing weed in the 1970. There was no internet. Nor was there any steady or consistent supply of weed or weed seeds. It was all black market stuff.

Age, dates, origins, etc. were all variable. We did know where most weed came from though, as most of the weed in NorCal was from Mexico, Colombia, or Thailand. Some other weed came in from India, Jamaica, Africa, and Hawaii. They were all pretty easy to distinguish though. The vast majority of loose or bricked weed was pure landrace sativa. The point in respect to this thread is that the imported weed was mostly sativa in NorCal. Colombians all bloom really late, as does Thai. Meaning most grew SW Mexican landraces locally as they finish outdoors in October. Perfect for California, as that is when the rains typically arrive every year there. Afghan and African indica beans did not arrive on the scene until the mid to late 1970s, in most cases. Some had them earlier and bred with them, but that was a rarity. Cali-O for example. Once the indica beans hit the scene a lot of hybrids appeared. Big Sur Holy (Zac Purple sativa) was crossed with an Afghani that resulted in SAGE. Likely Afghani was crossed with a Colombian to shorten the flowering cycle and one result was skunky smelling weed. Afghani was also likely bred with Mexican to get similar results. As a result there were variable skunk strains, as there are multiple strains now called skunk that are not related genetically.

Another thing is that weed adapts rapidly when bred. In as little as 4 generations Cannabis will change to adapt to local growing conditions. This is most likely from gene switching and not genetic mutations, as mutations occur far far less often and typically not in 4 generations. Certainly not to the degree that Cannabis adapts. So you could have had full blown RKS in NorCal in 1978, and it tapered itself off over a few generations to becoming a lot milder to grow locally. Also as Kevin Jodrey and others have noted, the indoor breeders in the Emerald Triangle preferred less potent RKS stank as it was a give-away to local law enforcement and thieves that you were growing weed. So they bred the RKS out of skunk for growing indoors. Also in Holland, David Watson is known to have specially bred the skunk stench out of skunk weed quite intentionally. According to Mel Frank and Ed Rosen. anyway.

One last thing is that local growing conditions also affect the resulting terpenes and cannabinoids that will result in the finished product, even when growing the exact same cloned strains. Grow inland and outdoors from the pacific coast where it is hotter and dryer, and the lighter monoterpenes waft off resulting in heavier terpenes for a different taste, smell and high than if grown along the foggy cool coast. Grow indoors and you tend to get more intense terpene profiles. So from my view we had original variable hybrids resulting in variable skunk strains to begin with, a lot of drift over time due to adaptive gene switching and local climate adaptation, we hybridized the stench out of skunk to grow it indoors, and there will be variation in weed due to local growing conditions.

 

[Big Sur]

Had an offer today to trade for some RKS, "burnt rubber pheno" beans. Burnt rubber and skunk? *cough* Not really my thing. But these strains are out there. This offer was made from a long time grower/breeder in the Emerald Triangle. She has some really rare strains, like I do.

I have been reviewing my bean trading notes and I forgot that I had an offer some years ago for trading for some Appalachian skunk that a guy has been growing there in Virginia for decades. Says its old school bred and Afghani dominant, and not bred from Amsterdam beans. Nor from the Colorado hybrid called Appalachia. We never hooked up for that trade.

Wikileaf & Leafly say that Appalachia is a hybrid made in Colorado of Green Crack x Tres Dawg. Which Green Crack (there are several out there) I do not know. Tres Dawg is a cross of Afghani and ChemDog. Appalachia is said to have a skunky bouquet. So again, things seem to point to Afghani breeding in skunk.

 

[Broseidon]

An eye opener to me was the MasterKushxSkunk here from MRN I grew a couple years back.

There were 2 phenos that were polar oposites terpene-wise.
One was sweet/minty/bubblegummy, really an odor to die for (at least for me) that was quite pronounced but during the cure at some point completely vanished and then returned a few weeks later but weaker overall.
The other, polar opposite, pheno was reeking all throughout flower and also in the jar, one of the most potent and penetrating smells I witnessed so far. But it didn't smell like bud at all. It smelled entirely and overwhelmingly like camphor (for lack of a better analogy). Definitely not like classic weed smell or anything.
Smelled like another wild camphor like plant that grows on the sides of the roads/in the wild here and smells like that after a heavy summer rain or whatever.

With this massive range of terpenes within that one strain and now again a large variety of smells (fortunately for me, not the camphor again but something like the sweet/minty/bublegummy one) in my G13xSkunk going, I assume (as I said a few pages back or whatever) that Skunk crossed with Indica leaning or relatively "pure" indica varieties, are likely the key to get there.

I bet damn near any terpene profile can be found in skunk or skunk related crosses. I really believe skunk is the jack of all trades in terms of terpenes in the cannabis gene pool.
When it was hybridized and bred, I believe the goal of skunk had a lot to do with ease of growth indoor, speedy flowering, yield, etc. etc. but decades later, Skunk seems quite forgotten in these regards as it has been replaced by better varieties for these purposes.

But to me it now looks like Skunk's real purpose was to carry over and save for the future, a huge spectrum of terpene profiles that can be brought out through various hybrids...

 

[PlantManBee]

The bottom line in the creation of skunk as far as I am concerned was about making a commercially viable domestic product.

"Faster, better, stronger. We have the technology."

 

[imsupernice]

Easy, procure a sample from your chosen area of "certain" origination, circa 1982 and test it.





Bingo!
Many sides to the story besides the over-insistent one-person-did-it-all narrative. Many points of entry into the West Coast then, including Hawaii. While the boys in SCruz (same haoles who invented surfing/s) were the first to get their story on paper and would like to take all the credit, there were farmers from Imperial Beach to Tofino growing bagseed as well as seed got from overseas travellers at roughly the same time, if not before. Unsung heroes are the Latino migrant workers who travelled and worked the entire West Coast. Hell, they were bringing mota in during the 1920's. They played a large part in proliferation. Many points of entry, many forms of distribution. Before sensi went full sensi, there was cross pollination which occurred garden to garden as well as the recombination of seeds that were grown from baggies. Lots of fragrant pot then. To try to put a dot on it...

The funny thing about it all is if you took a bag a RKS skunk today and put it in front of a bunch of people, they would still argue their asses off that it was or wasn't the real thing, whatever that ever was.

Believe what you want to believe but the person who really created RKS was from Hawaii. I'd give you his name but it has 19 letters in it and I wouldn't want to misspell it lol

Aloha
M

LOL ! From Hawaii ? i love how another theory pops in, what part of hawaii sir ?



I'm pretty sure theres alot of different RKS for a lot of different people, all we can agree with is that it stinks as hell ?

I have to say to everyone here, i have never seen or smoked RKS myself for the disclaimer

Guys, I live in canada and here, people talk to me about roadkill skunk, i'm afraid i'm pretty sure a clone could not have traveled this far from california.

Means some roadkill skunk or what people that are in the thirthies - forties here refer as RKS was actually sold in the form in beans ( consider cannabis cannot survive in most part of canada outside. )

So there is still a mystery to solve about, what was those beans ?!

happens that lots of the seedbanks came here, so i'm wondering if what people were searching here was super skunk from nevil actually.

would it make sense ?

thanks for sharing

 

[imsupernice]

I agree with this line of reasoning. BS makes a convincing case. This was my observation from S. Oregon/N. California at that time. Santa Rosa weed had similarities to Santa Cruz weed (Bay area). Ashland weed shared similarities to weed out of Eureka (NorCal area). The weed in Eugene (Willamette Valley) had a slightly different stinky smell. Each area had their own version of stinky, fragrant weed. Just as there are differences in the Pinot grown in the Willamette versus Napa; weather, soil, epigenetics played a part.
Another aspect of proliferation not discussed is the PCT- Pacific Crest Trail. People of all walks of life, from all over the world have walked this trail from Mexico to Canada. Like the Camino de Santiago it is a pilgrimage/trade route in a way. Currency takes a different form as everything gets traded for some reason or another during the journey. Heroin, akvavit, armagnac, Nepalese hash, a lot of weed (with seeds!) from all over the country was enjoyed and shared. These are all dim recollections, and like the Led Zeppelin concert in Detroit in '72, it was a very long time ago.



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Aloha
M

Yeah seems pretty logic to me thanks to big sur for sharing his experience and to everyone who contribute to the thread, so a tons of origins and many skunks make sense.

So it should still be available in Clone form somewhere .

Here in Canada, we really had beans whatever it was that gave really stinky phenos, actually the most dominant strain that was sold in the street was called M39 in Seedbank Catalog, it was Skunk number 1 X nothern light 5.

Do you guys think it'S the same parents or similar ones that are used in the NL5XSK1 of Mrnice ?

Just curious, the cut they used ( criminal gangs ) was a low odor, middle of theroad potency but most probably very early ready and mostly huge yields.

Just gotta find what beans of his catalog was this stinky skunk, u guys think it was super skunk like nevil said ?

Thanks to everyone

 

[musashi]

...Skunk was just a name given to extra stinky weed, not specifically the different Skunk strains... I gave a mate some dogshit smelling medman that was thanked with 'that's some stinky smelling Skunk man, lol...

Good point. Some ppl are perfectly happy with generic old school names, names that give you an idea of what it is you are actually smoking. These ppl know good shit when they smoke it. A lot of good stuff out there these days. And dammit it doesn't have to be named Master-Bubba Strawberry-Onion Purple-Creamsicle Ganja to be good.

Others will still insist on the brand name and regardless how it smokes, they find solace in that it is the "real deal" because some expert said so and it has gotta be because that's why the price is so high and it is fem clone only har har.

I used to sell clones to dispensaries- they were the also rans, the non keepers, never the killers. I've said it before caveat emptor.

Call it what you will, many seed breeders do- even though the genetics do not always support their claims. Long live stinky weed, I mean SKUNK!


Shaka
M

 

[Big Sur]

Good point. Some ppl are perfectly happy with generic old school names, names that give you an idea of what it is you are actually smoking. These ppl know good shit when they smoke it. A lot of good stuff out there these days. And dammit it doesn't have to be named Master-Bubba Strawberry-Onion Purple-Creamsicle Ganja to be good.

You are right. To be good shit it has to be OG Master-Bubba Strawberry-Onion Purple-Creamsicle Ganja x Blackbarry-Blaster Grape-Gorilla Skywalker-Puna-Buddah Hash-Pant !!! Its da kine.

Skunk from the islands? Never saw or smelled any of that. Back in the day I smoked Kona, Maui, Waui, Wowie, Hana, Puna Buddah, and Kona gold hashish. Kona Gold hash was the ~bestest~ hash I ever smoked. And I smoked a lot of hash. I still have not found any Greek hashish to smoke though. Way before my time. But speaking of Hawaiian strains, I found this online today. The "Hawaiian Seed Company" which is actually located here in central Oregon. So did skunk actually come from Central Oregon? Mainland weed?

There must be a dozen Hawaiian seed companies online now, all claiming to have the only real authentic original genetics like the strains I smoked and listed above plus a dozen more that I have never heard of. It now seems that if it is or was a place name in Hawaii, there is a strain named after it now going back to the 1960s or 1970s.

 

[musashi]

Aloha braddahs!
Put in a corner, I happen to think skunk originated from the Rogue Valley/Willamette area lol. Here's a zinger, did DJ play a seminal part in this?


"Back then, Eugene was known as the stopover town," he says. "There was a really good music scene that happened in this town. It was a pretty happening place for musicians who wanted to play in Portland and then maybe scoot down to Eugene and have a little retreat. It was known as the cool retreat place. The cool rich kids kinda wanted to come here and hang out. They would come here and get genetics, and they would take them back to Northern California. Once those genetics made it to Northern California, it was quickly established. And it changed the industry at that point."


https://www.wweek.com/cannabis/2017...eder-dj-short-about-the-origins-of-blueberry/


I was there during this time and parts of that story ring true. Many trust fund kids- Deadheads from the Bay area moved/visited Eugene during the late 70's early 80's. Kesey and his merry pranksters; we were swimming in LSD back then. It makes sense that seeds were procured and then brought back to the Bay area. That's my belief anyway.

Funny the Hawaiian connection. Some time ago Gerry Lopez moved there to take advantage of the Bend ski scene, shaping snowboards as well as surfboards. I've heard of that Central Oregon company you mentioned but have not tried their products. I will say that many of the big hitters currently there came from Humboldt as well as other "famous" areas and the pot scene has a huge presence there. On the high desert summer evenings, you can hear the fkn outdoor fans! It has definitely changed the landscape!
It's has been 6 years now, but the small batch Big Island hash is still goooood. In a word, ono.

Aloha
M

 

[PlantManBee]

I'm currently starting a couple of "lemon cello".

They are a good place to call out how misleading names can be. They are selfed seeds of the farmed Canadian "Sweet Skunk". Guess what? The "Sweet Skunk" isn't foul smelling, but lemony. A couple of it's progeny have been analyzed at Phylos Galaxy, "Maui wowie" and "north shore Maui"

Yeah, I know that this is the Road Kill Skunk being sought in the thread, but I am speaking to the naming being completely misleading.

 

[Big Sur]

Aloha braddahs!
Put in a corner, I happen to think skunk originated from the Rogue Valley/Willamette area lol. Here's a zinger, did DJ play a seminal part in this?

Aloha
M

I have heard that hypothesis, as well as the one that Dog Bud (mother of Chem Dog) originated in Southern Oregon. Having lived in Southern Oregon for some time myself, I doubt it. DJ Short did not start growing weed indoors in Eugene until about 1977 or so, and he says that it was all sativa early on. Like most of us grew then. Then he grew indicas, but did not like the effects of he stone. After that he decided to hybridize the sativas and indicas. From that he developed Blueberry around 1981 indoors. So no skunks came from that route. His cuts were circulated around the west coast in the 1980s though. After about 1995 he went into seed sales.

 

[imsupernice]

This is a very interesting thread i found out in the devil section, only question i have is... is the actual devil the same than red devil from greenhouse ?

this person actually says its RKS

food for thoughts what do you guys think ?

Hi All

Red Devil was the old name I used for it when I was with the GHSco...so in theory it should be the same.If you post some photos I would be happy to help and identify it for you.All the best Sb

Red Devil

And so it came that the outcast, condemned, crazed and maniacs grew Hemp - Like that of the "Red Devil "... the gospel according to the Greenhouse Seed Company

Grow it, smoke it, and you will know - where heaven is...

The 5 senses of Red Devil
Smell: A full flavored pure Indica. It permeates the essence of rich sweetly smelling flowers - rich in aromas.

Taste: A full aromatic, slightly sweet mouth watering sensation... Good enough to eat.

Touch: Incredibly tight flower formation, that defines density. Of course it is sweetly - sticky and has a horny - shape appearance.

Visual: Strong dark green leaf that holds its main flower with strong stemmed security. In the dry form its flower has a tendency to have a red aura.

Stone Effect: Typical to the Indica range. It tends to sweetly stone you to inner space on a conscious journey. It is made for wayfarer and cybernauts.

Family Heritage: Afghani X Afghani Skunk

Vegetative Time: This plant needs to be grown longer than most other - of the Greenhouse family! So I suggest a 3 week minimum light cycle of 18 hours. Then you will expect a substantial flower.

Flowering Time: The Greenhouse Red Devil will finish flowering after 9-10 weeks. Outdoors you can expect a late, but excellent crop from this handsome species.

Achievements: Highly Recommended for Outdoor. Will be finished by beginning of November or late October in the north. In the south hemisphere finished by July. A very large yield is expected. The Red will be understood at harvest.

Hello Mr. Nice Forum members, this is my first post here. Thought I'd make it a good one! What I have here are pictures of an old cutting of Red Devil from when Shanti was with Greenhouse Seeds. These were taken in 2009 from a medical dispensary in my hometown (which is a secret!).

These flowers are some of my favourite I have ever tasted, if not my favourite. They have a very oldschool quality about them that you don't taste in flowers today. From far away, the smell is crazy skunk like no other, pure road kill skunk! The smell is in the jar is like a dead skunks ass, acridness, sweet earthiness, citrus, and nag champa. When ground up the smell is nose stinging and reeks of citrus, skunk, terpentine and acrid earthiness. When you smoke it, the taste is ALWAYS the same no matter what you smoke it in whether it is a joint, a pipe, a bong or and homeless mans boot. It is like overpowering lemon floor cleaner with hints of ammonia and turpentine. It is the strongest tasting strain I've had to date and I must have tasted hundreds of different strains including a variety of Shanti strains. It lasts and lasts and lasts. In fact, it lasts longer than most dabs of BHO/Rosin I've tried. This stuff is crazy on the olfactory system! The buzz is immediate, long lasting (at least 2 hours for a 0.3g bowl) and has very desirable qualities to it. I found it very medicinal. This strain was perfect for fighting depression. I could never have a bad time when smoking Red Devil. The buzz was eurphoric, heavy with crazy couch lock abilities, and warm. It was like putting a heated blanket on your body, and the buzz would throb. It was more like taking Oxycontin than smoking herb! When the buzz cleared up, it didn't leave me feeling burned out. On the contrary, it left me energized and ready for more!
I wish I still had access to this stuff. It was the best medical bud I ever had. It would obliterate my IBS symptoms as well as my depression and anxiety disorders (Tourettes Syndrome, OCD, and GAD) and leave me feeling amazing. Although not the most functional buzz, it was perfect for severe medical symptoms. However, for a new smoker, this may not be the best smoke. I accidentally gave my mom a too big of joint of it. She smoked the whole thing and was couch locked for seven hours straight. I also had a nearly non smoking friend take a rip from a pipe and pass out, smashing his head of the concrete. It is VERY powerful stuff and quite possibly my favourite strain of all time. The last thing I thought that was worth mentioning is was the structure. The buds were airy in some places but where the calyxes formed the buds were ULTRA dense that were impossible to break up without scissors or a grinder. Each bud would have 5-8 little clusters. The form of the buds were really unique and not something I'd ever encountered and have not encountered since!

So all in all, if you ever see this stuff well grown, do NOT hesitate to get it. I am not sure whether I just had a freak pheno or whether all Red Devil (and now just Devil) is like this.

I would like to post some pictures of the bud I was smoking but for some reason it is not letting me. When I do figure out how I will post them to this thread.

Cheers,
CanadaDank

Another one there :

Hey guys, shut of the net at my house and need a new camera so haven't been able to post anything for a while but .....

I just grew out the rest of my Devil's and I will, for sure, be getting another couple of packs. I wasn't too excited with the first run but this second time around I came across some magnificent keepers. Every single plant was different from the others on both runs.

I had 4 ladies this time, 2 that started flowering under 24 hours of light.

The first was done a few weeks ago (about 43 days!!). I lost all cloning material from a toxic grow tent and will be searching for something comparable forever, I am sure. This plant grew one cola without any side branching and was the skunkiest thing I have come across since I grew Skunk #1 back in the mid 90's. None of my other Devil smelled or looked anything like this plant. The buzz is a wonderful giggly high and you can puff it all day without getting burnt. One tiny piece, if not sealed in an airtight container, can stink up a whole club.

The second one that auto-flowered is still going and is really packing on the weight. I broke a branch a week ago and smoked the premature buds the last couple of days and it is already fantastic. It has a very berry smell to it and it tastes a lot like it smells. i supercropped and tied it down after the initial stretch and haven't had to do any training since other than to prop the heavy ass buds up on stakes. I am guessing it will be done within a week, maybe ten days.

The third doesn't have much of an aroma compared to the others but need to be tied down after stretch as well. The bud formation is thick buds with lots of foxtailing. The calyxes are turning a deep deep purple - absolutely lovely looking. This is a much lighter green than some of the other dark oily ones I ran into. The color contrast is simply amazing to look at.

The 4th was done by 60 days and had the classic Afghani smell, taste, buzz, and growth pattern. This stuff is some stoney herb. Two bong rips and your eyes look like they are bleeding! My buddy and I smoked 2 rips at his bar and went down to where the people were and there was no hiding what we did - the thing is we were so pleasantly ripped we didn't give 2 shits who knew! Super stoned but not lethargic. Really neat to smoke this after some La Nina - it is how I been showing my friends the sativa/indica difference.


I have had a few people tell me the taste, smell, and high reminded them of the 90's from a couple of the phenos and I have to agree.

I was not too gung-ho after my first run with the Devil since a few of them were a lot of trouble due to size. It is so worth going through a pack and looking for a mom or 4. There is so much variety in these seeds!! I really wish I would of ordered some more of these when I made my last purchase. I have Med Man and Critical Mass going atm for my indicas but I would love to have a couple phenos of Devil mothers for personal.


Man, I will be thinking of the auto-flowering, single cola, super skunky, 43 day after flip plant I lost forever, I am sure. The good thing is these seeds are inexpensive enough to buy a bunch of the packs and search for it.

If anyone asked me to suggest a single pack of seeds for a personal grow with time and size restrictions I would strongly suggest Devil. So many flavors and highs from one pack of seeds! No two plants were alike.

Job well done, Brother Shanti!!

Thank you

ohh yeah be my guest bro.. thanks for the compliment..
i really liked the devil it was one of the easier to grow strains that i ran.. and boy did it stink.. there was no hiding the smell.. i tried to bag it in 4 ziplock baggies for traveling.. it just didnt work out... soaked right through all of the bags and was permeating all around me.. i smelled like a dead skunk.. i had some in a jar another day.. i cracked the jar for a split second inside of a car to see if anyone in the car would notice it... instant "wtf is that smell"... "smells like a skunk".. one of the girls in the car was pregnant and it almost made her puke...

 

[curious101]

Tho I never had RKS

Devil and Nordle put the funk in skunk lol