Who has the real RoadKill Skunk ?

imsupernice said:
interesting, so Mazar-I Sharif Afghani, do someone have experience with that landrace and can confirm it stinks alot ?

i'd be curious to see such pictures if someone still have it.

what is mendo jo role in all of this adventure ?

thanks for sharing ( love your signature ) was already saying it before seeing it

haha

good day
Click to expand...

IMO, Mendo Joe was just a courier (as Nevil calls him) like Watson was. The more I read and see and talk about it with old friends in Central California, Watson just took local bag weed seed to Holland with him or got beans from others like Mel Frank and Jerry B's ex wife. Skunk, Cali-O, Durban, Haze, etc. Mendo Joe, apparently a friend of Watson's, likely did the same. The story I heard from several bikers in the Santa Clara Valley was that Mendo Joe (aka: Alaska Joe) got a cut of Romulan from the South SF Bay area bikers, which was brought in through Ft Ord by some army guys which they brought back from Korea. Ft Ord was the home of the 7th Division in Korea at that time. Makes sense to me. I never heard anything good about Mendo Joe, and I never heard anything else to support any other source for the Romulan strain. I may be wrong, but the bikers loved Star Trek aliens. They named a 50:50 mix of vodka and antifreeze a Klingon. They would likely name a weed strain Romulan. I did not hang with the bikers long back in 1975, but long enough.

In my experience, skunk was a California phenomena, likely from several breeders in NorCal derived when Afghani seeds hit the NorCal scene in the mid to late 1970s. It may have also popped up in Holland at that time from what I have read. Skunk was all over and in several grades from super stench on down to light skunk smell. Which Afghani was it bred with? I do not know. I was a sativa landrace grower then and I am a (mostly) sativa landrace grower now. Past F1s, I have little interest in hybrids. I do not grow many indicas.

As for early sinsemilla and seeds in bag weed during the early 'home grow' and larger scale grow days in the mid to late 1970s, few knew much about growing sinsemilla in NorCal early on. Nor did we know about herms. Most were landrace sativas grown locally, and typically it was lightly seeded weed up through about 1980. Similar stuff was coming in from Mexico, called "highland Mexican" now. Maybe 20-30 beans per oz. Compared to 200 beans in a typical oz of Colombian, or 100 seeds per oz of Mexican. That was what I typically saw in NorCal anyway. Some early sinsemilla was completely seedless, and sinsemilla became more seedless as time went on. Purple and skunk were all the rage. So people grew it. But skunk reeks and growers were put off by having to mask the smell or get busted or ripped off, and the stench was bred out in the Emerald Triangle. By that time large scale growing had all moved north to the ET.
 
imsupernice said:
Why would you think he is dave watson himself ? did dave watson come troll here on mr nice in the past ? and why would you think that ? :)

actually i don't think he is because he said scam the skankman so he would be insulting himself, it's sad cuz N2ishun seems to have quite some knowledge of things, i open to you my heart n2ishun, come back in the thread, be positive and share and we will all forget this lil fight :)

we like everyone at mr nice. and i am super nice ! i'm sure a good blunt will get you back on a positive vibe and able to share gracefully more about california skunk how you came to know about it and what yu think compose the real original cali skunk or RKS as u see it

thanks
Click to expand...

Reason being that I had several debates and conversations with Watson (SamSkunkman) over on IcyRag. It would fit if he tried to impersonate a Watson basher here. He is a master of multiple aliases and con jobs. I am quite convinced that Watson is a pathological liar. I have known a few of them. They get wrapped up in their stories and make up more as they go. I like to feed them enough rope to hang themselves with. They almost always do. Like this clown self-destructing here and calling us all names. It all fits in a weird way. I mean, why the obvious melt-down?

No blunt needed for me. I put "Mr Sunshine" in my ignore file, and he is gone now.
 
Last edited:
Big Sur said:
Reason being that I had several debates and conversations with Watson (SamSkunkman) over on IcyRag. It would fit if he tried to impersonate a Watson basher here. He is a master of multiple aliases and con jobs. I am quite convinced that Watson is a pathological liar. I have known a few of them. They get wrapped up in their stories and make up more as they go. I like to feed them enough rope to hang themselves with. They almost always do. Like this clown self-destructing here and calling us all names. It all fits in a weird way. I mean, why the obvious melt-down?

No blunt needed for me. I put "Mr Sunshine" in my ignore file, and he is gone now.
Click to expand...

Debates and conversation about what exactly ? i'm just curious :)
 
I don't think that it is Sam.

I have had plenty of dealings with him. I don't think that he is as creative in portraying himself as you believe him to be.

For one thing, he doesn't usually make bizarre claims about yields. In fact I find his take on most things to be unimaginative, but down the middle of the road. I DON'T follow him, but we have brushed elbows in threads.
 
Incredible how inept you...umm.....people? are.

First ya shits try to put words in my mouth saying its impossible to dry soft a sat.
I said it was more difficult than an indica ya dipshits, not impossible.

This other dumbfuck is stuck on the fact that he cant do better than 1gr. per watt....
Learn how to grow ya dumbass. If someone else is doing better than you, that's fucking life, deal.

Now the science rocketist is claiming I'm the skankman.
Wow, that dude has some serious issues.
No one point out a shadow to him.....its probably Richard Nixon hiding in that shadow waiting to jump him.

If I thought you guys were dumb before, you've surpassed all expectations.
 
The difference of 1 gram per watt vs. 4 grams per watt is 400%.

you don't generally see any farmer with a 400% increase over the acceptable yield. Farmers have to project yields to get loans and such.

I'm not calling names, but you might want to work on your math and logic skills. I will say that you don't seem to have enough snap to be Sam. ;)
 
imsupernice said:
Debates and conversation about what exactly ? i'm just curious :)
Click to expand...

All kinds of crap, but mostly his version of what happened in NorCal in the 1960s/1970s/1980s, and mine. Which are quite different. His idea of Zac Purple/Big Sur holy was that it was crap, and all he smoked was Haze. From like 1969 through 1986. No one smoked one strain, and everyone always ran out of weed at some point. And there was a lot of really good weed around that area then. I also never saw anything called Haze in that area then. I hung out a lot just a few miles from Corrolitos, CA where he said that he, Haze, and Sacred Seeds and the Haze Bros were all from. All fiction in my opinion and experience. I cannot find any record of Sacred Seed having ever existed in California. Never mind Santa Cruz County.

He also debated me about garlic breeding. I have grown over 100 strains of heirloom garlics. He claims to have developed several garlic strains from seed. But garlic does not have a true flower, and all the commercial strains of garlic are all grown from cloves, which are essentially clones. Seed garlic is a term for garlic cloves used to plant and grow garlic from. But he insisted that they are not grown that way. In California there are 2 strains that dominate the US market, and they are California Early and California Late. From strains called Italian early and Italian Late. They are both softneck garlics which grow in mild winter climates, like Gilroy and Salinas, CA. Most of the seed garlic for California is grown the year prior in Oregon and trucked south around Thanksgiving time. That is because seed garlic heads and cloves do not get large enough in mild winter climates.

Anyway, those are the typical types of arguments I had with him.
 
PlantManBee said:
I don't think that it is Sam.

I have had plenty of dealings with him. I don't think that he is as creative in portraying himself as you believe him to be.

For one thing, he doesn't usually make bizarre claims about yields. In fact I find his take on most things to be unimaginative, but down the middle of the road. I DON'T follow him, but we have brushed elbows in threads.
Click to expand...

I dunno. I have seen Watson pop up with over a dozen different aliases on various web sites and rags. I have a list of his aliases someplace here. He is also getting old... brain cells are gone. Maybe dementia setting in.

And... if this clown wants to call us all vulgar names, then I will call him the worst name I can think of in this arena: David Watson.
 
n2ishun said:
Incredible how inept you...umm.....people? are.

First ya shits try to put words in my mouth saying its impossible to dry soft a sat.
I said it was more difficult than an indica ya dipshits, not impossible.

This other dumbfuck is stuck on the fact that he cant do better than 1gr. per watt....
Learn how to grow ya dumbass. If someone else is doing better than you, that's fucking life, deal.

Now the science rocketist is claiming I'm the skankman.
Wow, that dude has some serious issues.
No one point out a shadow to him.....its probably Richard Nixon hiding in that shadow waiting to jump him.

If I thought you guys were dumb before, you've surpassed all expectations.
Click to expand...


Wow, ain't you just a bundle of sunshine there buddy.

You sure Mr. NICE is the right place for you?
 
we just quoted exactly what he said.

what i have realized is that is he a poor grower, with his little 400 watt light.
must have run out of weed to smoke, so he's in a bad mood.

no one that could yield 4g/watt would have an attitude like his, they would be happy.
 
Listen here

Hey listen here Hairy

I can tolerate the negativity, narcissism, intolerance and even jokes about the british but i will not sit by idly while someone insults a 400 watter. My little 400 watt light can get 27gr/ watt. All you have to do is move your plants outside:D

In all seriousness though I've only heard from the older generation that it was a great smoke you could smell growing from a mile away back in the early 80's. Not sure the flavor would be for me.
 
Hopefully the mods remove his post's. self elected protagonist with nothing to show

When he was ignored he was almost gone - we should keep it that way
 
Last edited:
Big Sur said:
I dunno. I have seen Watson pop up with over a dozen different aliases on various web sites and rags. I have a list of his aliases someplace here. He is also getting old... brain cells are gone. Maybe dementia setting in.

And... if this clown wants to call us all vulgar names, then I will call him the worst name I can think of in this arena: David Watson.
Click to expand...


G `day BS

I think it is really a matter of people like you imagining its skunk man .
Just like in this case ...

Thanks for sharin

EB .
 
Hi All

Believe it or not I have taken over the control of the forum since Goy died. I agree i am not the daily moderator nor wish to be as i believe the interaction between grown individuals should find a fair balance in time and all opinions , explained correctly and calmly may all result in education.
I think the majority of the issues are between people who believe one side and not another etc....and this is purely depending upon who seems more credible than another. Since most if not all were around in the late 80s and early 90s most of it is heresay etc...and opinion based. Everyone did a part that is mentioned in this thread but trying to argue blindly for one side or another when most the individuals who took part are not even concerned is pointless. So please consider this as it is the normal way in the end to agree to disagree...with conflict or pressure for moderation.
I read most things but always inclined to let things work their way out ...that is discussion. So please try to remain civil and I will do my best to moderate the crap off the site as we increase screening protocol ...all the best Sb
 
For the EB skeptic above and tag team posting buddy of Watson's on IcyRag, a few aliases for David Paul Watson, known associate and licensee of the DEA in Holland include, but are not limited to:

Jingles
Selgnij
Sam Selezny
SamSkunkman
Sam The Skunk Man
Dr. FrankenWeedStein
Skunkman
Dr Frankenbeanstein
Sadhu Sam

...and maybe David Watson is just an alias? Or even Elmer Bud?

Of course I may just be paranoid. A great quote I read on a stall in a bar while peeing in Santa Cruz in the late 1970s read:

If you are not paranoid, you are not paying attention!
 
Last edited:
“People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of their character.”
“Life is short, but there is always time enough for courtesy.”

Ralph Waldo Emerson


Aloha
M
 
Last edited:
Big Sur said:
For the EB skeptic above and tag team posting buddy of Watson's on IcyRag, a few aliases for David Paul Watson, known associate and licensee of the DEA in Holland include, but are not limited to:

Jingles
Selgnij
Sam Selezny
SamSkunkman
Sam The Skunk Man
Dr. FrankenWeedStein
Skunkman
Dr Frankenbeanstein
Sadhu Sam

...and maybe David Watson is just an alias? Or even Elmer Bud?

Of course I may just be paranoid. A great quote I read on a stall in a bar while peeing in Santa Cruz in the late 1970s read:

If you are not paranoid, you are not paying attention!
Click to expand...

G `day BS

Yep I`m deep cover ...

Jingles wrote articles on how to grow for Sensimilla Tips in the 1970s .
Senginj is Jingles spelt back wards . And is quoted in the Hashish book by RC Clarke . Selnginj told me he was in Afghanistan in 1971 .

So 40 + years ago he was helping people learnt to grow weed and to understand how hash is made .
G man fer sure !

I think the Dr. FrankenWeedStein Is a name some one else gave him for their piece of journalism .

The others pretty clearly identify him as Sam or Sam Skunk Man . Not exactly change of identity .

What other astonishing news do you have ?

Thanks for sharin

EB .
 
Last edited:
shantibaba said:
Hi All

Believe it or not I have taken over the control of the forum since Goy died. I agree i am not the daily moderator nor wish to be as i believe the interaction between grown individuals should find a fair balance in time and all opinions , explained correctly and calmly may all result in education.
I think the majority of the issues are between people who believe one side and not another etc....and this is purely depending upon who seems more credible than another. Since most if not all were around in the late 80s and early 90s most of it is heresay etc...and opinion based. Everyone did a part that is mentioned in this thread but trying to argue blindly for one side or another when most the individuals who took part are not even concerned is pointless. So please consider this as it is the normal way in the end to agree to disagree...with conflict or pressure for moderation.
I read most things but always inclined to let things work their way out ...that is discussion. So please try to remain civil and I will do my best to moderate the crap off the site as we increase screening protocol ...all the best Sb
Click to expand...

I think things have gotten a bit out of hand, i sent a pm to n2ishun so he can feel welcome to come and share his part of the story and that people wouldnt be negative after him if he did because i thought he seemed to have some knowledge who knows, then some people were negative again and he came back even worst.

Listen to shanti it's a free forum and a nice discussion we're trying to have and everything is up for nice and civil debates. Why turn it paranoid, negative or anythinf like that is a bit sad for me.

Please people let the positivity get back to the thread, may i ask you shanti, what do you think gave the stench to that roadkill skunk phenomenon, is it afghan? And Do you think you have any seeds that could offer that phenotype at mr nice ?

Thanks
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top