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Hempy you have expressed your feeling ,Bullshit an awaste of time
Now your just repeating yourself an being disrespectful .If you can not add any light to the situation or give an opinion without being nasty please dont post in here .
It boggles me you said you read the article as you keep saying things i havnt said
Again the above was a story or detail that Sams told wooden boxes an posters chopped on it .i didnt say that just as i didnt say i am not writing an article
The haze brothers didnt didnt produce posters ,It was R.L an this was aboutt the time that G an R.L had the fallout .I believe this hsows 2 different men with 2 different mentalities .
You seem to not comprehend the 3 brothers were the ones who sold the haze in bulk .they had nothin to do with growing it ,again they were from Nj an they are not J/G or R/R.L .Sams when telling his verison of events of the 2 main growers referred tpo them as such an than when on to say he will be teh first to admitt they did not call themselves that .
As for the 3 brothers they are the one who were in the Ht R reoprts an the story of teh surfer boy an his magic beans was written about long before i was born .I find that a small coincedince
A few quotes from hooteroll who had posted here
Its amzing how you compare my article an the others again they had nothing to do with the origins an factually have a mere paragraph based on the Cruz
You speak as if you know somthing ,its clear you know nothing about haze when you have argued with Sams who was there an told us you know where nevil collected his haze in the US .Than sometime later Nevil claims personllay written done on MNS site that he collected haze from Sams
You still carry on how Nevil has the oldest an purest haze ,No he does not its not possible Nor probable .Why from what has beeen posted why from what i have been told from my source why because what Sams has told me in PM
but its clear below again one more time ,some quotes from Sams
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Above shows clearly that Sams wasnt there in 69 Soo therefore he Nor Nevil would have 69 Seed stock .Now he openly say that above with his 76 reference.It also shows what he said an ive said that the thai crossed to haze was a Haze hybrid therfore why i say Nevils stock is not pure
Now the Only reason the Thai was used is Only because after inbreeding for 10 yrs or soo the line Didnt produce as it once didnt an suffered loss of vigor not effect or taste but wasnt possible to use for commerical production .
Soo i believe its FACT an very safe an fact to say that the thai crosses are hybrid while the original haze was pure punto rojo
As ive said many times in the past this Describes Sams role right above
As ive said before the 3 brothers that brokered the haze not G or R.L ,ive spoke with one on the phone .The info ive shared on him can be sourced ,which was confirmation in the info i recieved my from source .The original haze poster can be sourced as it has copy rights an i believe it fair to say anyone with it would have to have been in the Cruz are in the 70's .The 3 brothers from those Ht articles shared a similar story about haze which was published by R the Ht writer can be sourced .Soo without sayin any names this is the most that can an i believe will be revealed .
Im sure if christ came down an told the story there will stil be non believers
Instead of sayin bullshit or Knocking me ,id appreciate if you said i dont agree an why .Its cool to converse we dont have to agree but lets not get emotional or childish .
I hope a peaceful haze discussion can continue from us all
1luvbigherb
Big the only bull shit here is coming from you and Sam i have not insult you or attacked you now you and a few others go on the defensive why ? The minuet you put your name or handle to an article (You swore you were not going to write) you open your self up to scrutiny and comments so live with it.
The haze brothers didn't produce the posters ha well who did there marketing agency ? lol.
It is absurd that neville said he got 1969 O Haze seeds from the Haze Bros.
#1 Neville first traveled to USA in 86 or 87 at the earliest, the main Haze Brother, R was gone, retired in Mexico by 82 he did not come back for 10 years. He was the one that created O Haze. The second Haze Brother J quit growing O Haze about 1980 and only grew Skunk #1 after that, until he became a reborn christian, then he quit growing, and anyway recently he told me he never met Neville and he certainly did not sell any Haze seeds to him or anyone else ever.
The Haze Bros had a falling out in the late 70's and stopped talking to one another, for certain they did not sell seeds as the Haze Bros to anyone, it is ridiculous as well as impossible.
Lets be honest Neville got the seeds from me, but he had promised me that he would not make pure Haze and sell them as such, I told him it was fine to make Haze hybrids with other varieties that were not mine.
He broke his word and started selling Haze pure and hybrids with my varieties, and I stopped working with him.
Maybe he lied to avoid the problems that accompany breaking your word? I can not say, but I know Neville did not meet the Haze Bros and did not get any O Haze seeds from them. Both the Haze Bros were close friends of mine and both were close neighbors for years, J lived a few hundred
meters from my house until he departed to Mexico.
-SamS
Sam's own post big 2 haze brothers R and J. and thats how the story went for a decade or more.
The fact are Sam has lied and when lies are used and one can not keep a story the same over time it makes the persons ward no longer valid as people can no longer trust what is sed .
So nothing past the point of the seeds being germinated in sam and nevilles hands hold any relevence any longer from were i sit and i garante you many more right threw this community and the rest of the canna community also see it as i do.
The truth matters as does history but if history keeps changing by those that are meant to be part of it well then its no longer believable is it.
You Bigherb as a journalist had a responsibility to tell the truth and you failed because you have sed many times in the past Sam's information was no longer credible and yet soon as he supported The New Addition / new story to the haze with the new extra brothers being G Sam became credible again for you now that is pathetic .
You ask Neville questions and yet you only take from the answers what you your self want brushing the rest away you are honestly not writing down history you are putting to print a bull shit story you want to see printed.
You guys can bull shit all you like but the facts are there.
Facts
For a decade or more Sam has sed there were only 2 haze brothers only after Bigherbs article G the third was added and okayed by Sam Fact.
The source of your story is from a guy you dont know or ever met and it was related to you by phone fact.
The person your using to back your story and add authenticity to your article is Sam who you your self have sed many times is no longer credible fact.
So the credible sources are bigherb Sam and G who you spoke to on a phone lurfuble.