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Donald Mallard
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ahh well we all make faux pas now and then ,,
but we move on , and we can do that now cant we ???
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ahh well we all make faux pas now and then ,,
but we move on , and we can do that now cant we ???
joshuahazen
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Its no longer history hempy. Its Haze the Religion and all religions need mythology. So in the Haze religion we have Sam the Father, Nevil the Son and "G" the Holy Ghost. Shanti is the Pope. JessE, British Hempire and big herb are the 3 wise men...
You're one of the apostles hempy, whether you like or not. In a thousand years time, people will look back and go - hempy was one of the apostles in the time of the Holy Haze. Blessed is his name.
Tom Hill's an apostate...(joke)
LOL!!!!!!!!
Now that has got to be the dumbest fucking shit I have heard all fucking year!
Hey Bigherb, You better burn some frankincense, becuase church is in session!
Yesu Hazos!
b0b_b1tch1n
Banned
So am I to understand this right and that all of the info in the mag comes from some one biggie raped with on the tele?
I am the forth haze brother give me your numba and I will give you another wallop of a tale to get your knickers in a koddy!
i wanna do your haze sister
Hemphrey Bogart
Member
Does Jorge Cervantes surf and has he lived in Santa Cruz in the past? If so, maybe he's "G"??
As we all know, Jorge is spanish for George. It's easy to see how Sams got J and G twisted up since Mr. Cervantes took on this whole spanish persona many years ago. George is his birth name, so he can also be known as "G." OMG!!
No need to do anymore speculating now! I've cracked the fuckin case, fellas! LOL!
Hey George, can I have an Original Haze poster for all my efforts in exposing the troof?
HB
As we all know, Jorge is spanish for George. It's easy to see how Sams got J and G twisted up since Mr. Cervantes took on this whole spanish persona many years ago. George is his birth name, so he can also be known as "G." OMG!!
No need to do anymore speculating now! I've cracked the fuckin case, fellas! LOL!
Hey George, can I have an Original Haze poster for all my efforts in exposing the troof?
HB
cannatari
New member
Don't categorize me with people who compose apology threads.
That's exactly what you're doing to me. You addressed me first fuck-o.
Well, you're the one pounding sand if you think opinions can be right or wrong.
This is something called the "Scientific Method":
We are still in the hypothesis stage of this debate so the only rational response to a hypothesis is to suggest an experiment that may prove the hypothesis correct or incorrect.
For somebody that knows all the facts, it sure seems like you don't have any idea as to how to acquire them.
Like I said, you need to check your ego, dude.
Peace.
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cheesefucker
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I wondered this as well Hemphrey so I did a bit of googling and read an interview with Jorge in which he says the first haze he had was from Nevil in Holland. So I dont think it is him but I could be wrong who knows.
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bigherb
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Hempy you have expressed your feeling ,Bullshit an awaste of time
Now your just repeating yourself an being disrespectful .If you can not add any light to the situation or give an opinion without being nasty please dont post in here .
It boggles me you said you read the article as you keep saying things i havnt said
Again the above was a story or detail that Sams told wooden boxes an posters chopped on it .i didnt say that just as i didnt say i am not writing an article
The haze brothers didnt didnt produce posters ,It was R.L an this was aboutt the time that G an R.L had the fallout .I believe this hsows 2 different men with 2 different mentalities .
You seem to not comprehend the 3 brothers were the ones who sold the haze in bulk .they had nothin to do with growing it ,again they were from Nj an they are not J/G or R/R.L .Sams when telling his verison of events of the 2 main growers referred tpo them as such an than when on to say he will be teh first to admitt they did not call themselves that .
As for the 3 brothers they are the one who were in the Ht R reoprts an the story of teh surfer boy an his magic beans was written about long before i was born .I find that a small coincedince
A few quotes from hooteroll who had posted here
Its amzing how you compare my article an the others again they had nothing to do with the origins an factually have a mere paragraph based on the Cruz
You speak as if you know somthing ,its clear you know nothing about haze when you have argued with Sams who was there an told us you know where nevil collected his haze in the US .Than sometime later Nevil claims personllay written done on MNS site that he collected haze from Sams
You still carry on how Nevil has the oldest an purest haze ,No he does not its not possible Nor probable .Why from what has beeen posted why from what i have been told from my source why because what Sams has told me in PM
but its clear below again one more time ,some quotes from Sams
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Above shows clearly that Sams wasnt there in 69 Soo therefore he Nor Nevil would have 69 Seed stock .Now he openly say that above with his 76 reference.It also shows what he said an ive said that the thai crossed to haze was a Haze hybrid therfore why i say Nevils stock is not pure
Now the Only reason the Thai was used is Only because after inbreeding for 10 yrs or soo the line Didnt produce as it once didnt an suffered loss of vigor not effect or taste but wasnt possible to use for commerical production .
Soo i believe its FACT an very safe an fact to say that the thai crosses are hybrid while the original haze was pure punto rojo
As ive said many times in the past this Describes Sams role right above
As ive said before the 3 brothers that brokered the haze not G or R.L ,ive spoke with one on the phone .The info ive shared on him can be sourced ,which was confirmation in the info i recieved my from source .The original haze poster can be sourced as it has copy rights an i believe it fair to say anyone with it would have to have been in the Cruz are in the 70's .The 3 brothers from those Ht articles shared a similar story about haze which was published by R the Ht writer can be sourced .Soo without sayin any names this is the most that can an i believe will be revealed .
Im sure if christ came down an told the story there will stil be non believers
Instead of sayin bullshit or Knocking me ,id appreciate if you said i dont agree an why .Its cool to converse we dont have to agree but lets not get emotional or childish .
I hope a peaceful haze discussion can continue from us all
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bigherb
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Brick Top
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Hempy, my PM to you is not; "full of worthless filth" or talking; "shit."
It says what I have been saying in this thread, that clearly has not gotten through to you, plus how you are once again using your old tactic of attempting to play the victim.
The topic is The True Origins of Haze." Because most people are trying to stick to that and not going along with you attempting to alter the thread to being The History of Haze, you are acting like you are being attacked.
You clearly have a persecution complex, Hempy. If people will not follow your lead and let you take a thread wherever you want it to go and instead say Hempy, you're off topic, try remaining topical, you see that as a personal attack.
Anything that you know to be factual and can say about the actual origin of Haze strains is great, tell it all, don't leave out even the slightest detail.
But after having done so, please leave it at that rather than attempting to turn this into 'The History of Haze: From Conception Until Today' and dragging in people and places that in no way shape or form were involved with the actual "ORIGIN" of Haze strains.
bigherb!
commendable job on trying to put these pieces together.
i was around the haze in the early 90s (up until 92) and my father was around since the 70s smoking nothing but haze it seemed.
california was flooded with haze. everyone knew what it was, and sought it out.
just from common knowledge to california stoner, everyone knew haze came from the cruz, and that sams was trying to save it. my dad would always tell me "if you get some haze, smoke it like its the last, it wont be around much longer"... boy was he right. i was a young kid, but understood the gravity of the situation. i should have saved seeds i would find in batches. ugh.
but bigherb, hempy seems to be in his own world, caught up with his own demons. i understand what you were and did accomplish with this piece. and i greatly appreciate your work, and willingness to put yourself out there like that.
neville doesnt have the oldest pures haze.
as stated haze cant be stabilized... so what did neville use to make it a true breeder? hmmmmmm.....
commendable job on trying to put these pieces together.
i was around the haze in the early 90s (up until 92) and my father was around since the 70s smoking nothing but haze it seemed.
california was flooded with haze. everyone knew what it was, and sought it out.
just from common knowledge to california stoner, everyone knew haze came from the cruz, and that sams was trying to save it. my dad would always tell me "if you get some haze, smoke it like its the last, it wont be around much longer"... boy was he right. i was a young kid, but understood the gravity of the situation. i should have saved seeds i would find in batches. ugh.
but bigherb, hempy seems to be in his own world, caught up with his own demons. i understand what you were and did accomplish with this piece. and i greatly appreciate your work, and willingness to put yourself out there like that.
neville doesnt have the oldest pures haze.
as stated haze cant be stabilized... so what did neville use to make it a true breeder? hmmmmmm.....
ganja man1
Banned
Don't mind me fellas. Some great discussion of Haze, which I humbly admit that I'm a noob to the origin/history of this strain but I think this is a great reminder for us all...
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/138562-post163.html
Peace
GM1
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/138562-post163.html
Peace
GM1
im no expert. never claimed to be.
but i have smoked haze. alot of it. and grew up where it came from. california! the haze was popular before neville. it was a cult classic in california.
it seems people forget that california had a thriving cannabis scene before many other places ever thought to do so. the california guys that acquired these genetics are the true pioneers.
not discrediting neville whatsoever. he has played his role, and quite a pivotal one at that.
im not sure where most of you awesome people are from, but i never even got into "dutch" strains until the late 90s save for shantis awwwwesome BW. i would smoke northern lights, and the like... but what we were smoking in california in my early life was pure california original shit. imported directly from herever and worked.
sams seed bank had some clout in cali.
everyone fucked with the skunk. and it was 10x better back then i swear... hahahaha.
but i have smoked haze. alot of it. and grew up where it came from. california! the haze was popular before neville. it was a cult classic in california.
it seems people forget that california had a thriving cannabis scene before many other places ever thought to do so. the california guys that acquired these genetics are the true pioneers.
not discrediting neville whatsoever. he has played his role, and quite a pivotal one at that.
im not sure where most of you awesome people are from, but i never even got into "dutch" strains until the late 90s save for shantis awwwwesome BW. i would smoke northern lights, and the like... but what we were smoking in california in my early life was pure california original shit. imported directly from herever and worked.
sams seed bank had some clout in cali.
everyone fucked with the skunk. and it was 10x better back then i swear... hahahaha.
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cheesefucker
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Hi Jet life do you think any of the modern strains we have out today compare to haze.? If so could you give a small list cheers.
i think haze has reached such a mythical status, like g13 that it gts blown out proportion sometimes.
haze is great smoke. unique. its just an amazing sativa really. i feel more people love to reminisce about haze than anything. its more of a whole package with the haze, which is a long gone thing.
nevs haze is definitely on point with the original.
i grow oaxacan sativas that reminiscient of the haze. the only reason i grow them. i have a 9 week pheno.
haze is great smoke. unique. its just an amazing sativa really. i feel more people love to reminisce about haze than anything. its more of a whole package with the haze, which is a long gone thing.
nevs haze is definitely on point with the original.
i grow oaxacan sativas that reminiscient of the haze. the only reason i grow them. i have a 9 week pheno.
johnthepiper
Member
What California strains are preNevil haze hybrids?
b0b_b1tch1n
Banned
you are completely right , to this day i know of someone who has been growing that old skunk every year and inbreeding it to supply himself with seed for each following year , it is so potent i have to be very carefull to not smoke too much , one single bong or pipe hit is enough to get a seasoned smoker extreamly high and for hours
he lives on the other side of this great country (Canada) as ive moved and he is old and refuses to do the mail thing , but when im back in the area i will score some of these seeds and hopefully be able to send some to shanti to work with
(if he is willing)peace
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coop
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There where a lot of sativas in cali. Are they related to haze? Who knows
But stuff like polyana and silver pearl. And even cali-o are great cali sativas
pre neville haze hybrid???
dont think so.
what i dont think many people understand that haze was a accident. a perfect accident, but an accident nonetheless.
it only takes about a gram of some top shelf, an internet connection, and a little bit of motivation to put the pieces together.
cheers!
JL
dont think so.
what i dont think many people understand that haze was a accident. a perfect accident, but an accident nonetheless.
it only takes about a gram of some top shelf, an internet connection, and a little bit of motivation to put the pieces together.
cheers!
JL
Hempy
Hempy
This is not my old handle and i am not important but i remember you from C.W.
i remember your love of the mango haze and your dedication to
smoking and encouraging the growing of sativas.
while everyone else was going gah gah over indica's you didn't and we all know why..
sativa's rock
But man you still seem to have a bee in yer bonnet
The haze lore right from early rolling stone articles
and the competition..between the hz bros, R...was interesting
and humourous [Canadian spelling]..whether true or not
so many of these threads would work so much better with out all
this fighting...maybe chill out a bit?
i did and i feel a lot better and get just as much accomplished
Hempy
This is not my old handle and i am not important but i remember you from C.W.
i remember your love of the mango haze and your dedication to
smoking and encouraging the growing of sativas.
while everyone else was going gah gah over indica's you didn't and we all know why..
sativa's rock
But man you still seem to have a bee in yer bonnet
The haze lore right from early rolling stone articles
and the competition..between the hz bros, R...was interesting
and humourous [Canadian spelling]..whether true or not
so many of these threads would work so much better with out all
this fighting...maybe chill out a bit?
i did and i feel a lot better and get just as much accomplished
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hempy
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Hi mate well its not a bee in my bonnet per say but more trying to keep it honest these guys love to hype and ha lets face it elevate them selfs to look like there important (big) but reality is there not no one is as were all just entity's on a screen.
I stared growing sativas and only grew stativas 79 and grew my first dutch lines in 87 i think that a mate got from Nev in Europe and even tho i thort they were okay i liked what we were growing much more as they were stronger and the high lasted hours longer.
We were growing Thais and columbines panamas and so on and what ever Cali had we had i dont give a shit what any one says thats the truth.
I rember what was available we got to smoke Acapulco gold African black opiumated thai sticks and opiumated hash and many other lines we had it all to and yet australia is treated like the red headed step child of the canna world lol.
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