shanti are the mango haze parents different?

[genegenie]

I don't buy into that kanaga mate,

Haze is/was a specific strain of cannabis that was bred from 3 different sativas, that Nev and Shanti claim to have the true genetics from. MM is a thai/ colombian cross if I'm not mistaken, so they ain't the same thing.
Even if the MM was the exact thai/colombian used in the make up of haze, it's still not haze on it's own.

Plus Shanti didn't advertise La Nina as an Aussie haze X Widow over the last few years, he advertised it as Haze X Widow,which it's not, the true lineage only came out after a member decided to post the conflicting info he received from Shanti in pm.

GG

 

[Kangativa]

I don't buy into that kanaga mate,

Haze is/was a specific strain of cannabis that was bred from 3 different sativas, that Nev and Shanti claim to have the true genetics from. MM is a thai/ colombian cross if I'm not mistaken, so they ain't the same thing.
Even if the MM was the exact thai/colombian used in the make up of haze, it's still not haze on it's own.

Plus Shanti didn't advertise La Nina as an Aussie haze X Widow over the last few years, he advertised it as Haze X Widow,which it's not, the true lineage only came out after a member decided to post the conflicting info he received from Shanti in pm.

GG

I am sure SB had his reasons, 1 big one I can think of is he wanted to keep the true La Nina genetics a secret, being MM is such a rare strain or he was under obligation to do so.
The fact that the member even let that PM be know to the public was a breach of forum rules and trust.
I am sure there are lots of breeders out there hiding some of their true gentics under the name Haze.......Plus you must admit it is way easier to say Haze than Mullumbimby Madness

 

[50 CENT]

I don't buy into that kanaga mate,

Haze is/was a specific strain of cannabis that was bred from 3 different sativas, that Nev and Shanti claim to have the true genetics from. MM is a thai/ colombian cross if I'm not mistaken, so they ain't the same thing.
Even if the MM was the exact thai/colombian used in the make up of haze, it's still not haze on it's own.

Plus Shanti didn't advertise La Nina as an Aussie haze X Widow over the last few years, he advertised it as Haze X Widow,which it's not, the true lineage only came out after a member decided to post the conflicting info he received from Shanti in pm.

GG

I understand your pov but you dont have to be such a dill about it. Calm down.
Im actually stoked to find out it is MM.

But back to the important stuff like how we help you move on from this.

 

[genegenie]

Yo fiddy,

I was being calm.

As for moving on? Well, what's done is done, I'd just like to know why.
I am buying it after all, so I do like to know what it is if that's cool.


GG

 

[50 CENT]

Yo fiddy,

I was being calm.

As for moving on? Well, what's done is done, I'd just like to know why.
I am buying it after all, so I do like to know what it is if that's cool.


GG

What a classy character you are gg, I commend you on such a sincere and thought prevoking reply, although I am stoned so I could be biased.

Now this really just happened haha, I just tried to sign myself in as 50 C_NT (comes after T)
^stoned.

 

[bigherb]

i thought of not responding in this thread ,but it seems a few have responded to me ,soo i would like to reply ,most humbly and respectful

50 cent


its almost like some things you need a 6th sense to truely understand, no amount of text can accuratley explain, and it makes it even harder the further you are removed from the exact thing you are asking about.
First of all you need to be a man of pot, secondly research MM and understand it the best you can,


i have always considered myself to have a 6th sense ,i have thoroughly researched MM and im thankful to kangativa and bush weed who IMO have provided the most indepth details to date on the line ,which IMO is sad .if you can find more than a hanful of decent descriptions/or detail id love to know where to look

info is lacking,soo ive asked more than once because it has been reported /thought shanti had invlovement working the line evident by these post an others


quoted hempy ,who we all know ,knows shanti personally

Ask shanti he was one that worket on the real deal Mullumbimby Madness if you dont belive me

I was working in Australia on varieties like Mullumbimby madness and Thai and Columbia strains of sativas, as well as a lot of original Afghan stock

this was one of the many times ive asked for info below,i respect the fact he may not wish to speak on the line ,it's just i dont know who else is better suited to give info about it .

much agreed
id love to hear all shanti has too say reguarding the history of MM and her involvment in mns strains

jesse

interesting id love too see your post ,if you can put up a link

can you research and decypher the matrix of information in this post below

Originally Posted by Shantibaba
just to set the records straight MNS has a pure haze female also and thanks to Nev and the santa cruz haze bros these genetics were worked on well. BUt it is not practical to put on the market as the NH is already an extremely time consuming plant to do. What the cannabis world needed was practical hazes thus the birth of SSH, Mango Haze, and EQhaze....so on....which are all available from MNS. The other less stable hybrids that include haze as a parent are things like NH Mango, NHwidow, Mango widow and so on which I do make every so often...definitely not on a regular basis

This is why we have the board system though, to share information and learn from one another

.

i agree this has been my wishes since my first post on the net



kangativa

BH I am not sure SB actually created MM, but it is possible that the MM, if it was the MM used in La Nina is something that he was working on when he lived in that area. I am sure if SB wants people to know the story he will tell it in his own time

.

i agree thats why some input is nescessary ,it wont be confirmed to he address the topic ,but according to reports it seems there is more than one line and he had some hand involved


i agree again about speaking on the issue as i state above, i respect the fact he may not wish to speak on the line ,it's just i dont know who else is better suited to give info about it .

soo i thank you again for your contributions and sharing your experiences and spreading and preserving your rare stock


genie

i wouldnt use your choice words but i do agree with your thoughts


to all
1luvbigherb

 

[JessE]

jesse

interesting id love too see your post ,if you can put up a link

Hi Herb,
Trust you are well? Below is the link you had requested, though there may be others along similar lines as well.
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showpost.php?p=65832&postcount=7

can you research and decypher the matrix of information in this post below

Hi Herb,
The matrix is an ever growing entity, much like the national debt, which is hard to track exactly due to the complexity of the operating system itself. There may be an example or two to be found which demonstrates that few, if any, outside of the direct Mr. Nice Seed circle know what MNS possess and do not possess in terms of genetic material. What little we do know for sure comes from what Shanti has been gracious enough to share with us, though I would wager he has a collection that can be taken seriously when he tells you it is in fact strain X, and one which is extensive in nature.

When alot of breeders are still playing with Tonka trucks, Shanti has consistantly built bridges and has the pictures, videos, awards and respect one would come to expect of one of the, if not the best breeders in the marijuana world today. Knowing that both haze A and C are related varieties, for an unrelated haze variety to be used other than haze A or C would obviously mean another sativa variety also considered haze was used. So while easy to get the wrong the picture if you've not assimilated all the pieces, jumping to conclusions to soon can often times leave a narrower path to the promised land than what is ordinarily found to be comfortable.

 

[bigherb]

Hi Herb,
Trust you are well? Below is the link you had requested, though there may be others along similar lines as well.
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showpost.php?p=65832&postcount=7




Hi Herb,
The matrix is an ever growing entity, much like the national debt, which is hard to track exactly due to the complexity of the operating system itself. There may be an example or two to be found which demonstrates that few, if any, outside of the direct Mr. Nice Seed circle know what MNS possess and do not possess in terms of genetic material. What little we do know for sure comes from what Shanti has been gracious enough to share with us, though I would wager he has a collection that can be taken seriously when he tells you it is in fact strain X, and one which is extensive in nature.

When alot of breeders are still playing with Tonka trucks, Shanti has consistantly built bridges and has the pictures, videos, awards and respect one would come to expect of one of the, if not the best breeders in the marijuana world today. Knowing that both haze A and C are related varieties, for an unrelated haze variety to be used other than haze A or C would obviously mean another sativa variety also considered haze was used. So while easy to get the wrong the picture if you've not assimilated all the pieces, jumping to conclusions to soon can often times leave a narrower path to the promised land than what is ordinarily found to be comfortable.

Trust you are well? Below is the link you had requested, though there may be others along similar lines as well

.

honestly not soo much this last month ive had some hard times , thats why i needed that lil break .but its soo hard to not post with neville here


soo im curious in your post your words were from what you understand ,where you some how in the know or was there an older post from shanti which implied this that is not presently on the boards ?



your last thought really doesnt not give a definitive answer to my question ,which i believe only shanti can reveal

Originally Posted by Shantibaba
just to set the records straight MNS has a pure haze female also and thanks to Nev and the santa cruz haze bros these genetics were worked on well

but its my assumption/educated guess according to the present info ,the only haze parent that survives is hazeC ,the only confirmed haze hybrids that used a female where hazexNL1 /hzBxHZc if i recall these were al work done by neville ,i understand .soo i assume the haze females were gone when shanti got hold nevil's stock which leads to my conclusion shanti was referring to the female la nina parent ,then again what stands out is the word has which would mean it still survives and Nev whichmight mean the hybrids ive listed above but Nevil said himself the HZbc wasnt sold and we know the first haze hybrid hzX NL1 WAS SOLD BRIEFLY

im just curious as too the exact meaning of that post i dont want to carry on or become anal


1luvbigherb