shanti are the mango haze parents different?

wonkadonk said:
It's the one from my post above Nevil's
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showpost.php?p=2064&postcount=27

I'm curious about this stuff too. Some of the details are a bit hazy, and or contradictory.
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i thankyou for reposting the link

This post by Shanti is 100% accurate
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this is not true because it was just revealed that the la nina mother is not a haze but MM,everything else may be true

but that still doesnt answer my question ,about how your story of the female cutting being the same and shanti's story about the 1000 seed grow coincide


the recent topic i havnt spoke on niether has anyone else. which imo is not cool is the la nina mother ,was recently revealed to be MM

La Nina is the widow father breed to a pure Haze female...neither A or C by the way so I hope that clears up all your doubts once and for all.
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Originally Posted by shantibaba
Hi HHHG

it is not on that chart.....it was a select female from a pure line of mullumbimby madness that has been going since the 70s...so it is not there.Let`s say it was the Ozzie version of Haze in my eyes.
all the best sb
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i find it intriguing this info has came about now and in this fashion ,via pm .i find more intriguing no one has commented or feels as i do .

i have asked numerous times in threads for history /info/ traits on MM if there were any crosses made or made available , ihave directed a post or 2 at shanti on this topic.i recall seeing posted i believe on ic a post that stated a few croses were made with MM and i believe WW was one.kinda funny

ive also asked nev abou the haze B parent in one of the haze threads were the history of the parents were told and shanti specifically in the
Wich Haze mother was used in La Nina?
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thread which was made for him



soo was the haze B ever used in a released strain ?

id still love to know the haze parent of the first seed bank haze release from the haze Xnl ?
which seems to be the special one that long ass flowering female you didnt keep crossed to the ruderail X nl

id also still love to know the haze parent of your seed bank silver haze which i dont believe you revealed



1luvbigherb
 
hi bushweed

bushweed said:
"Hi bh, are you quoting from a pm between Shanti and HHG?"
"However bh, it does seem a bit devious to reveal other people's pms on a public forum without both parties permission, don't you think? "
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bigherb only quoted this public post from HHHG where HHHG had revealed the contents of a Shanti's pm-reply in regards to LN parents. Although its clearly not allowed (forum rules) to make the contents of a pm publicly available I have to admit I 'm happy that this info 'got out' and we know more about this excellent line from Shanti.But to be honest I would love to see a confirmation from Shanti himself that this pm is real (no disrespect to HHHG) as well as the info on parents of LN and also hear some more info on this MM plant used in LN.
 
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OK apologies to bigherb - still a stand up guy then. Yes definitely need to hear this from the horse's mouth. Problem is, now everyone will be questioning the lineage of all the MNS hazes, like a number of detractors have been doing all along.

Oh well, they're still the cream of the crop.
 
Its bad form to post a pm sent to you i would say if it was a threat or something alike that all members should be made aware of that's different.

I don't think the Madness was used because it would be public noligue.
 
Haze as Nev used would seem to be mostly Thai and Colombian judging by the smells and tastes I've found over the years from them.

Mullumbimby Madness as Shanti has said before is made from Thai and Colombian.

Therefore doesn't surprise me if there are strong similarities.

Does it really matter is La Nina is Haze or MM? I mean, whichever it is, it still boils down to being Thai and Colombian.
 
G`day Theorists
I would like to add right here ,MM was/is one of the legendary strains in Oz ,been that way for more than 20 years .I recall Shanti saying that he was involved in some breeding before he left Oz for Asia although phenos were different in diff localities .
It seems much harder to aquire these days, but the legend lives in the hearts and minds of those who have "danced "with her .
I`m wondering if some one who knows more might be able to shed some light ? Yep talkin to you Kanga .
Happy huntin
Elmer Bud.
 
Hi all

hempy ,
yeah maybe it isnt a MM..We need to hear Shanti's input on this.

One thing that I m really confused about is this:
Shanti had posted in the past that the HazeC is alive while HzA is dead.

Neville in this post quoted below said that ALL plants from 69 are dead. So would that include HazeC which is a '69 plant?

Nevil said:
Thanks for putting that together Ouchie. I don't seem to mince words, but I'm trying to make a point. It's probably safe to say that all the '69 haze plants that sprouted are now dead. The Nevil's Haze is only one step removed from that and this makes the NH the best source of Haze I can find. There are a few interesting Hazes in th U.S. and I'm waiting impatiently for this years crop to come in, to see what's out there. The U.S. Purple Haze and hybrids might be the best we can do along the lines of a Haze backcross.

Outcrosses to the NH will not pose a problem, there are plenty of directions to go.
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Elmer Bud said:
G`day Theorists
I would like to add right here ,MM was/is one of the legendary strains in Oz ,been that way for more than 20 years . It seems much harder to aquire these days, but the legend lives in the hearts and minds of those who have "danced "with her .
I`m wondering if some one who knows more might be able to shed some light ? Yep talkin to you Kanga .
Happy huntin
Elmer Bud.
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Yeah Kanga has the pure MM, or something exceptionally strong and trippy like it, such that half the time you think, 'is that someone talking in the trees?' or 'is that someone tap dancing on the roof?' The other half the time you have these Carlos Castenada moments where you wonder, 'is it that I'm stoned, or is it that the universe is orchestrating this bizarre sequence of illuminating events because I've tapped into another dimension?' Just a few tokes is all it needs, otherwise you're in gaga land, or like me - writing one paragraph posts that take hours to edit, all the while cracking yourself up about shit that next day, isn't funny:D
 
bushweed

i appreciate the quick apology

but if you thought about your comment the assumption would have never been made ,how can i possibly access another members PM

once again i thankyou for your reports on the traits of MM ,the traits of taste/aromas are not what i would consider a haze expression,it seems you have given some of the most indepth reports on the line thus far ,which is surprising and abit dissapointing since shanti has had a hand in the creation with not much to say on it

the comparison of the MH n MM n hybrids are intriguing and appreciated

is this your first time growing the mango haze ?


L33T

sup unc

thanks for clearing that up



i agree shanti's presence and voice is very nescessary on this topic .that would confirm things



Neville in this post quoted below said that ALL plants from 69 are dead. So would that include HazeC which is a '69 plant?
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this is a good point ,but somthing to add is how about the post below ,this would again contradict the pm because it doesnt just say a pure haze (possibly ossie haze) but it says santa cruz haze bros


Originally Posted by Shantibaba
just to set the records straight MNS has a pure haze female also and thanks to Nev and the santa cruz haze bros these genetics were worked on well. BUt it is not practical to put on the market as the NH is already an extremely time consuming plant to do. What the cannabis world needed was practical hazes thus the birth of SSH, Mango Haze, and EQhaze....so on....which are all available from MNS. The other less stable hybrids that include haze as a parent are things like NH Mango, NHwidow, Mango widow and so on which I do make every so often...definitely not on a regular basis
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1luvbigherb
 
FFS, just wait till Shanti is here and all this speculating can stop, it's getting really annoying tbh.
 
You need to understand MM to understand why Shanti calls la nina- haze x bw. And you probably have to be australian to understand MM. Itd be a hard task understanding MM especially if ur from NYC, omg. Best bet would be to check Kangas thread over at IC.

I would describe mm x bw as haze x bw too with a clear conscience.

To try to explain MM as anymore then haze in a limited space (like a strain description) is like trying to explain evolution in the same amount of space.

I would not even try explaining MM, thats why im thankful of Kangas thread, before I even get into it with ppl I say go there first.

I can understand all pov's on this, its quiet frustrating, its almost like some things you need a 6th sense to truely understand, no amount of text can accuratley explain, and it makes it even harder the further you are removed from the exact thing you are asking about.
First of all you need to be a man of pot, secondly research MM and understand it the best you can, then hopefully you will feel why Shanti neednt explain anything further, and he can spend his time more productivley doing what he was born to do
 
bigherb said:
the recent topic i havnt spoke on niether has anyone else. which imo is not cool is the la nina mother ,was recently revealed to be MM






i find it intriguing this info has came about now and in this fashion ,via pm .i find more intriguing no one has commented or feels as i do .
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Hi BH :)
Ive posted previously, prior to the pm you mention, that La Nina was from an unrelated haze variety that was neither A or C. So its not exactly declassified top secret information, you just need to put the time into researching and decyphering the matrix of information to put all the pieces together. This is why we have the board system though, to share information and learn from one another. :)
 
If people would quit writing about shit and start growing it it wouldn't matter if it was called "Chlamydia" - it is great herb and fits in the same hole as my SSH and MH.

I can bring any or any combination of the three and we are still gonna be energized, laughing, and in sync on stage.

Nobody who I know has said it doesn't seem like Haze to them and the one has been growing SSH non-stop for over 15 years. I ask my friends what they wanna smoke and it is usually "Haze" and it doesn't matter what I pull out of the 3 strains (other than the incense/spicy SSH cut, that shit makes you fucking retarded ... and you nipples hard) and they are pleased, lifted, and in a familiar place.

"Yo, hook me up with that Chlamydia, that shit's fire!"
 
Sorry Elmer I missed this thread, hence my no reply.

BH I am not sure SB actually created MM, but it is possible that the MM, if it was the MM used in La Nina is something that he was working on when he lived in that area. I am sure if SB wants people to know the story he will tell it in his own time.

I do know for a fact that the line of MM that I have and have used in my breeding was from old Farmers in that area as I have stated in my MT thread.
IF this is the same strain that SB used I dont know, but as Bushweed points out there are some remarkable similarities to what I have and what he used, I will have more of an idea once his haze lines that I am growing have fully matured.
Now here is something else for you all to toss around, when I ordered the Strains from SB he did not give me La Nina, now was it because I already have my own version of it or he was just out of stock:D
 
I've a packet of La Nina sitting in my fridge that I'm really looking forward to popping after reading all the great reviews of her over the years.

But it's not Haze X Widow as described in the strain description or as Shanti has stated several times

MM is not Haze, even if Shanti ''thinks'' it's the aussie version, so for him to say La Nina is a haze hybrid is BS.
It's false advertising, just using an established name to sell something that it's not, yet when Shanti does it it's acceptable eh?

Stick your head in the sand and you leave your ass sticking out in the air people.

GG
 
genegenie said:
I've a packet of La Nina sitting in my fridge that I'm really looking forward to popping after reading all the great reviews of her over the years.

But it's not Haze X Widow as described in the strain description or as Shanti has stated several times

MM is not Haze, even if Shanti ''thinks'' it's the aussie version, so for him to say La Nina is a haze hybrid is BS.
It's false advertising, just using an established name to sell something that it's not, yet when Shanti does it it's acceptable eh?

Stick your head in the sand and you leave your ass sticking out in the air people.

GG
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Hi mate....I do believe that Haze has become the fancy new name for Sativa's or Sativa only crosses. If that is so I dont see a problem with SB calling it a Aussie haze.
If I am wrong then so be it:o
 
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