Neville's Haze, in search of a keeper

Hanzde said:
how lanky they are
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Indeed Hanzde, this is what I expect from this line, some heavy stretchers in there.
Keeping them crowded does not help this either but this round is only to find pheno's I like.

Zero0 said:
They really look like a pure sativa.
Keep going.👍
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Stoked to see this, I'll do my best.:)


Update on the cuttings:
Out of 47 plants I now have 44 rooted clones.
I will try to attempt the last 3 again. (These are females NH#20, NH#29 and NH#45).
NH#20 has 3 branches on every node, I hope I can save this one.🤞

You can see that they are still climbing up:

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There are no more males in the tent now.
 
Day 42 of flowering today.

These girls are real beast, after one week of putting in the screen they are filling it up nicely.
I have topped some again 3 days ago and again today, screen stayed at the same level.

I'm still feeding them grow at 11on/13off. When I see buds forming and when there is no more growth I will make the transitions to Alga Bloom.
I plan to do this gradually by mixing half Alga Grow and half Alga Bloom for 1-2 weeks.

After that I plan to lower lights on by another half hour to speed things up and hope for maximum flower setting in the buds.
Led is still at 70% and hung as high as possible
There are 4-5 pheno's who are growing like pure sativa diva's and most lean heavily to the sativa side.
Only 3 pheno's show a bit more indica infuence.
I should see full haze expression in this grow.

Not much smell at the moment but it is building and getting more complex now.
If you compare the next pic with that from a week ago you see what I mean:
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A couple of pheno's show very nice trichomes on the stem.
I love this picture, you can see the trichomes very clear here:

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Single blade leaves are very common:

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One of the more"indica influenced" pheno's in the center:

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Another one back left and front left.
Front left shows 3 leaves and branches on every node:

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I will be in for the long haul here!

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Ptree said:
Good trait - trichomes comes first, then comes buds :giggle: 👾
Did you saw this trait previously on Mangoes and NevHazeMangoes ?

Thanks for these reports,
I will eat my screen shortly after your answer :D
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Yes Ptree in the NHM thread (second run from my keeper clones) you can see from day 34 good trichomes on the stems on different females.
They were further developed but that was a run from clones also.
NHM#4 is probably showing this the most.
I don't remembert this particulary from MH.

Bon appetit!😂
 
Zero0 said:
It's rare to see a sativa variety develop trichomes so early, especially on a branch.
I think this pheno is very promising!
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Yes, I've not seen this often, there are several who are showing this.
fingers crossed. :) 🤞

Uncle Jack said:
Thanks for sharing your techniques Swifty.
It's very generous of you to pass on your knowledge like this.
Much appreciated.
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Thank you Uncle Jack, nice to hear your appreciation.:)
It is a simpel way to do some pheno hunting on a small scale.
 
Day 51 of flowering.

A quick update, it was a busy weekend for me.
The girls are still going strong, I topped again this week these are jungle plants!

Trichomes are forming on many individuals and while pruning some branches I got my first hazy scents.:)
Most are leaning very strong to the sativa side, I'm pondering on lowering the light some more to help them finish properly.

Feeding is now 1,5ml/L Alga Grow + 1,5ml/L Alga Bloom.
They look fairly happy with their feedings and dimmed led light.

Some general pictures;

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Some individuals:

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@Zero0: I will make better pictures of the trichomes on the stems this week, there 1-2 that are spectacular.
 
Swifty said:
Yes, I've not seen this often, there are several who are showing this.
fingers crossed. :) 🤞
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Swifty said:
Swifty said:
Trichomes are forming on many individuals and while pruning some branches I got my first hazy scents.:)

@Zero0: I will make better pictures of the trichomes on the stems this week, there 1-2 that are spectacular.
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Your work is very impresive, nice job ! 🤩

Maybe the trichomes on the branches are a distinctive feature of Neville's Haze.

Below is one of mine Ghost Train Haze#1 Reg, under MH at 18th day of 18/6.
If you zoom you can see, on the right "leafs branchs", a few hairs.
GTH#1 contains 25% of Neville's Haze from the male side, so maybe the father NVH have pass the feature to this pheno.

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Hello Swifty, thanks for the excellent report. I really appreciate the details.

Im planning a similiar breeding project this fall with Panama seeds.
Which brings me to what you wrote in your last post:

Swifty said:
Most are leaning very strong to the sativa side, I'm pondering on lowering the light some more to help them finish properly.
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Do you mean literally lowering the light closer to the canope or the wattage of the lamp?

Im asking because I finished a couple of pure sativas last spring. I assume I had a problem with too much light around day 45 of flower but am not 100% sure.
Much of the upper canope was burned (though I was still able to take them to day 127 of flower and there was enough new growth in between to offset some of the damage). I would like to avoid that again.

Could you please enlighten me? :)
 
Zero0 said:
Your work is very impresive, nice job ! 🤩

Maybe the trichomes on the branches are a distinctive feature of Neville's Haze.

Below is one of mine Ghost Train Haze#1 Reg, under MH at 18th day of 18/6.
If you zoom you can see, on the right "leafs branchs", a few hairs.
GTH#1 contains 25% of Neville's Haze from the male side, so maybe the father NVH have pass the feature to this pheno.

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Thanks @Zero0. :)
NH is a special line, It has been used in so many crosses before.
Nice looking plant you have.(y)

Fired_uUP said:
Hello Swifty, thanks for the excellent report. I really appreciate the details.

Im planning a similiar breeding project this fall with Panama seeds.
Which brings me to what you wrote in your last post:



Do you mean literally lowering the light closer to the canope or the wattage of the lamp?

Im asking because I finished a couple of pure sativas last spring. I assume I had a problem with too much light around day 45 of flower but am not 100% sure.
Much of the upper canope was burned (though I was still able to take them to day 127 of flower and there was enough new growth in between to offset some of the damage). I would like to avoid that again.

Could you please enlighten me? :)
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Glad you find it useful @Fired_uUP!
I was not clear on that but I meant to lower the hours of light a bit more to speed up the proces.
Sativa's tend to be more tricky to grow, it is safer to go a bit slower when dialing up the lights.
I always look at the leaves (and how they are positioned) and how the plants react to a change.
For this run I plan to give a bit more light once I see some decent buds forming, the goal is to keep them healthy as long as possible to get good quality.
Giving them more N until stretch has fully stopped seems a better approach then my MH and NHM grows from the past.

The plans are to close now, it was not my intention but it is very difficult to tame these!

Hope it helps!
 
While the Shack is running veg I made use of it to prep the NH males.
They were a bit root bound and some started flowering but now al of the 17 males are growing again and are getting strong.
I will prune them so I have 2 small branches left and let them grow a bit before taking one of each plant to make a new father.
The other branch will be flowered out to see were the potential keepers are (you now how I do this).

The males:

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I already see early resin on a male!

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Swifty said:
This is one plants that has 3 branches/leaves on every node.
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I just recently had one of these on a Hawaii MauiWaui. I believe its called a trifoliate.

After I topped her, she started growing the 'normal' two branches / node. She was a strange dwarf from the beginning but I kept her anyways as those plants usually produce intensive buds.


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Swifty, thanks for your earlier reply. Im going to have to slow down the light change intensity after the flip to 11/13 next time and monitor the reaction better.

Another Q for you:

Given the 50 or so orginal plants from seed and the clones that you have can you estimate approximately how much space in m2 you are using for this project?
 
Fired_uUP said:
I just recently had one of these on a Hawaii MauiWaui. I believe its called a trifoliate.

After I topped her, she started growing the 'normal' two branches / node. She was a strange dwarf from the beginning but I kept her anyways as those plants usually produce intensive buds.


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Interesting, I will see if the clones still have this trait.

Fired_uUP said:
Swifty, thanks for your earlier reply. Im going to have to slow down the light change intensity after the flip to 11/13 next time and monitor the reaction better.

Another Q for you:

Given the 50 or so orginal plants from seed and the clones that you have can you estimate approximately how much space in m2 you are using for this project?
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The tent is 120x60cm and I have the clones from the mothers in a 50x50 box now, it is very crowdy!
 
Zero0 said:
Maybe the trichomes on the branches are a distinctive feature of Neville's Haze.
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I believe so @Zero0.
After inspecting the girls I saw more than half that showed visible trichomes on stems already.
MH and NHM also had a couple but not so many.
It appears that the most sativa influenced pheno's show this the strongest.
Some lovely hazy smells already.😊

Here are the 8 most impressive ladies.
It was not easy to make decent pictures, it is a jungle now!

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Swifty said:
I believe so @Zero0.
After inspecting the girls I saw more than half that showed visible trichomes on stems already.
MH and NHM also had a couple but not so many.
It appears that the most sativa influenced pheno's show this the strongest.
Some lovely hazy smells already.😊

Here are the 8 most impressive ladies.
It was not easy to make decent pictures, it is a jungle now!
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Wow, as i say before, very impresive work.

It seems that Neville's Haze is indeed one of the most, if not The most potent strain in the MNS catalog and one of the most potent among all sativas currently available.

I’ve already observed varieties like Sour Bubble from BOG seeds with trichomes covering the entire surface of the leaves or their petioles but I don't remember have seen a strain producing resin on the stems, even more so in such large quantities.

All of this is really very promising.

By the way, out of curiosity, I’d like to know on what date/year you bought those Neville's Haze seeds ?
And it was at MNS Auctions ?
Thx in advance.😉
 
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