Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid

[MarijuanaPiranha]

The zamadelica sounds like a killer sativa. Nice looking crystals on the zam x NH, I'd like some of that. The cola is not too bad either, might have a few nanners though.

 

[deran]

tried the zamal from female seeds

wasnt something special

 

[lbezphil2005]

someones else's zamal x nevils haze i managed to come accross.

"growing pot changed my life... being a gardener always has been a way to being lucky and humble - for those who do it with passion...

The plant pictured is a Zamal x Nevils Haze, the most psychedelic sativa experience i ever had (and that includes a lot of other sativas like original haze, titans haze, amnesia haze, 3 other zamal hybrids, etc, etc) One of the only strains that i would compare to doing a small dose of shrooms or acid"

from Don't buy and do weed!!!

Nev loved these buds and mentioned nevils haze looked to be the more dominant expression, he also mentioned the best kariba x nevils girl looked exactly like this.

dubi from ace also has seen this and told me he agreed that zamal is the most psychedelic weed hes ever tried. he has the gerrit cut from magus genetics, it is the girl that makes zamaladelica female seeds the zamal x nevils haze pictured above uses the same souce that that clone came from, both from gypsie.

wouldnt mind that cut in the grail im thinking. i would have to stick to the zamaladelica myself though.

cheers

Now THATS what I'm talking about, yeah!!!! Holy crap!!! I definitely just added these to my top 10 strains to find - I love a trippy herb, nothing better!!!

 

[lbezphil2005]

Im having alot of fun over here with this breeding project.
All my friends that come over to party are assigned to roll joints. I bring them tiny ziplocks and tiny tan paper envelopes for the seeds. I then tell them to take every seed they find and write on the outer envelope what it is, and take it home and grow it.
This will help disperse some wild crosses in My area of Cali. Many have Nevilles Haze males as Pollenators.

Just doing my job

Just found this post, Doc - you made some peoples years with that kind gesture!! A very cool idea, my friend!

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Hash

Last night I was dumping a bunch of little rolling trays with leaves and bits of odd bud on them from a while ago, and spied a nice chunk of hash on one. Its a few grams and top quality smoke. Super strong and tastes sweet, tangy and spicey all at the same time. From the taste of it, Im guessing it is a Mango Haze, Maui, LA Confidential mix. Medium soft pliable and nice as hell. Im gonna smoke this all night long .
Greetings to You all. I hope You have a great weekend!

 

[Betterhaff]

Last night I was dumping a bunch of little rolling trays with leaves and bits of odd bud on them from a while ago, and spied a nice chunk of hash on one.

Man Doc, I want to come over and party at your house...or come over afterwards and help clean up, lol.

 

[Mr Fecund]

The zamadelica sounds like a killer sativa. Nice looking crystals on the zam x NH, I'd like some of that. The cola is not too bad either, might have a few nanners though.

Now THATS what I'm talking about, yeah!!!! Holy crap!!! I definitely just added these to my top 10 strains to find - I love a trippy herb, nothing better!!!

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7784/zamxnh3.jpg

thanks guys i thought it had a pace here.

guess heres the rest of the info nevil grew both zamal and kariba side beside last year and found the kariba to be better/stronger. my only imput would b to give those zamal a second chance, esp if were talkin bout a special cut.

im not trying to diminish any of Nevils ideas, i am only think similar to the man would hmself.

thankyou

 

[Mr Fecund]

ok some more zamal talk.

the same strain zamal x nevils haze

The 16 week wait is very definitely worth it, I dried the popocorn buds and wow, what a smoke, very very potent, all in the head, a clear, electric, euphoric racing high, I'm a very experienced, hardcore smoker, I smoke all day every day yet this stuff had me higher that I think I've ever been before and positively messed up my friends who tried some. I took a walk to my friends house, a place I have been many many times and couldn't find it, walked up and down the street looking for the house, then had to ring him on my mobile phone as I got really confused, just awesome stuff. I have been in a satate ot total euphoria on this stuff, makes you talk a lot about mad ideas, sing silly little songs to yourself and wander about looking very baked but grinning insanely, just as close to herbal acid as I've ever experienced, straight to the number one slot on my list of best smokes. Taste is astringent, piney and lemony, very long lasting flavou that stays with yoou for a couple of hours, the high is also long lasting too and doesn't seem to have a ceiling, you can get very very high on this stuff.

from british hempire. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....0&pp=15&page=3

and

Zamal is so original that I decide to work with. zamal can upgrade haze to the most hallucinogenic weed I have experienced. visual like kawa kawa if you know and totally psychotic if you abused.

from Laugan Gaucher
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....t=zamal&page=2

and dubis report of his zamal mum
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=101916

cheers

 

[BobGreen]

I would love to hear more about the old Zamal line Shanti said he had been gifted at the beginning of the Grail thread.

I wonder if that is the same Zamal line Nevil grew last year?

 

[Dr. Purpur]

The Zamal looks good. Nevil didnt discuss that one with Me. I asked Him to choose for me what I should grow, so He did. Three crosses.

I picked about 25 Lbs of carrots(all colors) today. They are in the fridge. Im going to juice most of them and dehydrate some too. Maybe freeze some as well. They are organic and real sweet, and tasty. They are coming out to make way for the Haze crosses and the Sativa/Kush crosses I made as well.

My son looked at the plants this evening and thought they looked very good now. I upped the ferts and Micro Nutes a few weeks ago. The leaves look awesome. Some look like Thai. Some are slightly wider leaves.

The Tomatos are massive this year' Ill probably pull a real good yield. There is 20 varieties, many are old Heirloom types. Some have giant tomatos ripening on them now. Here is a Pink Caspian. I just ate it. It was perfect acid/sugar balance with wonderful flavor and texture. Real meaty.

 

[Mr Fecund]

I would love to hear more about the old Zamal line Shanti said he had been gifted at the beginning of the Grail thread.

I wonder if that is the same Zamal line Nevil grew last year?

i would like to know as well i know that as well both more about Shanti's and Nevils zamal they had. i think these ones im talking about were Gypsies but it was old stock, Gerrits cut was from that line.

hey doc they way i understood it nevil selected the kariba over the zamal as a mum so there wasnt and zamal crosses made. he said the kariba was better/stronger. and yes i did pay attention thinking Nevil had selected them for a reason for you.

this is the Gerrit cut

Gypsie
"The Zamal that Gerrit has ....was gifted to him in seed form by myself many years ago...

I aquired the seeds from a French grower/breeder on La Reuinion island in the Indian Ocean called Christophe...

(I thought that you might want to know the history)...

It is a very fine sativa and Gerrit has really done alot with the variety....some of which I have sampled to my delight!!

Thanks Gerrit!!"

"Ferry of Female Seeds got the Zamal he uses in some crosses from me also Dubi.....so it's the same source as what Gerrit has had.......I spread the Zamal out to quite a few breeders years ago....(also Uncle Ben)......because it is such a fine representation of a true sativa and the high is so profound..."

n old pics of gypsie zamal grown by dubi,
Dubi
"I've found a few zamal old pics surfing in my old CDs
Plants were grown from seed 5 years ago. Planted in may, a few months later they were 3-4 meter monsters. Zamal is a beast! "

"Zamal has a unique kind of high, it's crazy, psychedelic and out of control, especially i have found extremely powerful and crazy plants crossing zamal with other sats and sat/ind hybrids. It has huge breeding potential to get incredible sativa experiences in the hybrids"

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=101916

 

[Mark]

Hi Mr. Fecund, thanks for digging up the info. Dubi mentioned he saw huge breeding potential with the Zamal - do you know if he ended up doing anything with it?

 

[Mr Fecund]

Hi Mr. Fecund, thanks for digging up the info. Dubi mentioned he saw huge breeding potential with the Zamal - do you know if he ended up doing anything with it?

you can get it in a freebie zamal x golden tiger if you by something else, its got good reps as well. im not 100% sure what hes doing with it i could almost say im 100% sure hell do a release containing it but in not exactly sure what it will be.

dubi did say that gypsies line did contain hermies and males usually would hermie, also he mentioned some autoflowering traits in the cut. so im guessing it just not ready to sell yet.

for me if you got some of those zamaladelicas i'd be looking for a good girl to hit with a dad from one of nevils new ones. (like kariba x N.haze or N.Haze x Mullum)

cheers

 

[Mark]

Thanks again...Golden Tiger sounds like a likely candidate for a good cross with the Zamal.

I did notice that point Dubi made about the male hermies. I don't know if it's true but my gut feel would be that the females would potentially pass this on too (even if they don't display the trait in their phenotype). Probably not something I'd breed with but could be nice to grow just for smoke.

I'd have to agree with you on the new crosses being a good proposition for combining with a Zamal x NH. I haven't seen the Kariba cross yet but the EMM is looking very impressive!

It would be good to hear about SB's experience with the Z - things have gone a bit quiet in that regard.

 

[hempy]

Thanks again...Golden Tiger sounds like a likely candidate for a good cross with the Zamal.

I did notice that point Dubi made about the male hermies. I don't know if it's true but my gut feel would be that the females would potentially pass this on too (even if they don't display the trait in their phenotype). Probably not something I'd breed with but could be nice to grow just for smoke.

I'd have to agree with you on the new crosses being a good proposition for combining with a Zamal x NH. I haven't seen the Kariba cross yet but the EMM is looking very impressive!

It would be good to hear about SB's experience with the Z - things have gone a bit quiet in that regard.

why dose it need to be hybridized tho if its as good as people say then leave it pure.

If your wanting to speed up flowering and make it more manageable then you need to be using an indica in the mix.

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day Hempy

Adding Indica to the pure sativa kinda defeats the purpose of breeding a pure Sativa bro .
To shorten flowering ang keep the Sat high . I`d look into Nepalese or Early Durban .
Both have good highs and are earlier than Equatorial sativas .

Then I`d be studyin these chapters hard .

Fixing traits .

Hybrid Giants .


Fixing multiple traits .

Thanks for sharin

Elmer Bud .

 

[hempy]

G`day Hempy

Adding Indica to the pure sativa kinda defeats the purpose of breeding a pure Sativa bro .
To shorten flowering ang keep the Sat high . I`d look into Nepalese or Early Durban .
Both have good highs and are earlier than Equatorial sativas .

Then I`d be studyin these chapters hard .

Fixing traits .

Hybrid Giants .


Fixing multiple traits .

Thanks for sharin

Elmer Bud .

Did you read my post elmer ?.

why dose it need to be hybridized tho if its as good as people say then leave it pure.

If your wanting to speed up flowering and make it more manageable then you need to be using an indica in the mix.

I sed why not keep it pure preserve it.

I know what breeding is Elmer you ether add traits by hybridizing or you stabilise by removing and isolating traits or you preserve by keeping traits as is.

Who has pure durbon on the market no one and whos Nepalese we talking about i think real seed has 1 but i dont know how its smokes most out there only offer hybrids.

As for adding a indica to the mix it would only be done to speed up flowering and to add flower mass to the mix and by using hybrids to breed is not my ideal way forward.

If his only got a female of the line then there is a way he can go forward with and that is not by using hybrids as a parent he needs to be looking for a pure or stable line that's different to his.

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Skirts

I got a couple nicely marbled Black Angus plate Skirt steaks. Pounded them out, to tenderise. I slowly rolled them while stuffing them with, Columbus Coppa, Provolone,Sliced black olives, fresh swiss chard. Portobella, fresh garden tri color carrots, Sliced Artichoke bottoms, fresh garden Walla Walla Onion, Fresh Garden Oregano, fresh garden Basil.

Serving it with smoked-stewed San Marzano tomatos (fresh garden) with Sugar sweet garden Onions, parmesan and assorted melt cheeses on top. Couscous with pine nuts and roasted garlic on the side

 

[Dr. Purpur]

I got a couple nicely marbled Black Angus plate Skirt steaks. Pounded them out, to tenderise. I slowly rolled them while stuffing them with, Columbus Coppa, Provolone,Sliced black olives, fresh swiss chard. Portobella, fresh garden tri color carrots, Sliced Artichoke bottoms, fresh garden Walla Walla Onion, Fresh Garden Oregano, fresh garden Basil. Smoked over Pecan-Mesquite.



Serving it with Pecan-Mesquite smoked-stewed San Marzano tomatos (fresh garden) with Sugar sweet garden Onions, parmesan and assorted melt cheeses on top. Couscous with pine nuts and roasted garlic on the side

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[jack hairy]

you're given me the munchies dr...
keep it up