Down Below

  • Thread starter Thread starter barletta
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
What up fellers, thank you all for the many kind words. Trust me, I am just a dood who learned to grow sometime in 07, and REALLY likes it :D Don't worry, as long as there is a down below, and a point and shewt, I'll have pix fer ya!

L - That SSH is the only plant that I've run 20+ times, and I'm STARTING to figgure out what she likes. She could give 2 shits if she has much roots at the onset of flower. She will eat a good bit once she gets a few leaves (and corresponding rootmass), and I like to put ~1 cup of castings and P guano/gallon of soil @ ~50-55 days as a topdress (worked in with a lil greensand/perlite/vermiculite), then leave her alone. The colors come out ~65-70 days if it is cold, if not, she will turn when hungry. I run her for 12 full wks from flip, with the last ~10 days staying nice and dry; the last ~3-4 days off to the side (not in the light 'footprint'). LOL, I love that plant :)

Hey I mixed up a soil batch the other day, and I'm starting to think that my recycled coco/peat mix is starting to break down. I started cycling it through ~October, and the current mix is probably ~80% recycled peat/coco by vol. I have been adding small coffee cans (2) of greensand to (1) of rock phosphate in the recycled soil, and I've been adding those 2 pretty heavy since ~aug/sept (meaning there is a good bit still to break down in the recycle bukkit from the get go with no addition, won't fully break down in a 2-3mo grow cycle).

Lemmie back up a lil. I have 2 ~30 gallon totes (flower, recycle), and a tote that is a lil smaller (~20 gal, veg). I have pretty much stopped adding additional coco and peat to the mixes. I will cut the veg mix ~2:1 with promix for clones and seedlings. I have been mixing my own flower mix for a while now. I started using bags of fox farm as a base, then adding bags of castings, and lil bags of perlite and vermiculite. I would topdress with guano and feed bottles throughout. I was just dumping the used soil into my outdoor compost pile. That got pretty expensive and inconvienient after a while, so I started to recycle the soil in a big tote. The first batch of 'flower mix' after I started recycling the soil (in a separate tote...) was 100% virgin coco/peat/perlite/vermiculite/rocks/fishies/poops. After I filled the recycle tote with ~20 gallons of used, I added ~5lb greensand, ~5lb rock phosphate, ~10lb castings, ~1 gallon (vol) crabshell, ~1 gallon AP (espoma bio-tone) fert, and a tub of Rare earth (3 or 4 lb). Let it sit another ~2wks (while adding maybe 8-10 gallons more 'recycle'), giving me ~30+ gallons of 100% used (1 time). I made my flower mix ~50/50 (added 10-15 gallons of recycle), and mixed in more rocks/poops/guano, and some perlite/vermiculite.

Since then, I've done the cycle completely 2 times (the recycle bukkit was completely empty after the last 'flower' mix), pretty much adding the same stuff, but not as much castings the last time. The flower mix uses the 'recycle' as a base, and I add (per ~30 gallons):
~3 gal ea of perlite and vermiculite (it is recycled, so there is plenty in there already)
~2 gal CrabShell (2-3-1, 1% mag, 20+% cal!!!, microlife loves it, buffers, slow release...)
~2 gal Greensand
~1 gal Rock Phosphate
~1 cup of powdered, and ~1lb of granular lime (I generally add some to the recycle bukkit when I add soil)
~2 gal AP organic dry fert (espoma bio-tone, 4-3-3 w/1%mag, 4% cal, and mykes)
~1 gal cottonseedmeal (6-2-1 I think, ~50% of total N slowrelease)
~2l (8cups maybe?) of P guano
~2-3lb ea of rare earth and diamond black (gen hydroponics)
I've been sprinkling in maxicrop in place of the algamin that I usually use. I've never used maxicrop until recently, and I've been adding less to the soil, and more to the water. This time I also added ~2 gallons of diatomaceous earth. I figgured, it is ancient fosslilzed water bugs, can't hurt.
On transplant, I sprinkle kelp, castings, and plant success right there where the roots sit, and after I add more flower mix, I work a lil P guano and bio-tone in the top of the pot.

I topdress ~ every 10 days or so (not if I re-pot) up to ~5 wks with castings, kelp, Pguano, and vermiculite.
I feed water, molasses, and either LK or kelp every time. I add compost tea made from filling a sock with 1-2cups screened compost (from OD pile), and working it like a sponge in a 3 gallon bukkit for ~5 min. I make castings/kelp/guano 'coffee' by putting ~2tbsp castings to 1tsp kelp/guano/rare earth in a metal coffee filter, running 6 cups of hot water through, then running cool water through the filter to fill the 3 gallon. I probably get them 3-4 total times with both the coffee and tea throughout flower. I also supplement PureBlendPro soil (1.5-4.5-5) or Age old (5-10-5) 1x weekly up to ~wk 7 (6 full). The bukkit will occasionally get splashes of EJ bloom, pee, and hand rinsings after working in the soil occasionally. I take a lot of care to not feed N (other than castings or what is already in the dirt) within 3 wks(minimum) from harvest. If I know how to finish a certain cut properly (ssh1, the lost Spice cut), I don't feed for the last ~4wks.

I'm expecting big things from the plants that are going into the current mix, as the rocks in there are deffo starting to break down after 6mo+ :)
[barletta reloads some quick dry G/Sk #2...]

EDIT - Veg mix doesn't 'move' nearly as fast, and right now it is ~50% re-cycle, has the same things added (except Pguano, and everything in lesser amounts). I feed the veg plants sprinklings of castings/kelp/plant success if and when the plants look like they NEED it. I generally spray every plant some when I hit the clones with a weak LK/kelp spray. Usually the water they get is the leftover from those bottles (maybe 2-3 ml/l - ~1/2-1/4 recommended strength). My plants usually don't stay in veg long enough to have serious def's.
 
Last edited:
yo B im going to have to read this a couple of times to take it all in
stunning detail mate theres a couple of things im not to sure of but ill wait untill iv read it again before i start doin your head in

nice one dude
 
No problem herb. What that post REALLY is about is me getting into some G/Sk a lil early... Basically I'm pushing soil recycling, building your own mediums, and dry organics. I measure nothing :) I haven't checked Ph in uuummmm...... My only real issues are self inflicted - keeping the pots too wet in flower, and keeping the area too cool in veg. I bet that I will be able to cut out the bottles after running THIS flower batch back through recycling (where it gets more greensand and rock phosphate) and 'flower' (to get more of everything and 'cook').

I have also been foliar feeding kelp and WEAK pbp (like 1-2 ml/l) up until ~a wk ago. Plants seem to like it, but I have residue all over the leaves now... Gonna give em a heavy sprayin with straight kelp 2moro PM. Other than this kelp spray, and a 'coffee' feed (castings, guano), I'm cutting off the quickest superspices from all N.

Vince Carter = 1/2 man, 1/2 amazing. 35 footer to win it in OT. Like a friggin freethrow.
 
SuperSpices coming in kinda quickly.
S7303705.JPG


Different plant, looks like a fast sativa dom.
S7303706.JPG
 
Thanks herb :)

Here is what the veg area looks like. I ditched the trays, and was pleasantly surprised by the root growth on the ssh4 clones. Everything was struggling along (50-60% had visible roots, and I pulled ~15 clones with no roots), with the EQ2 doing OK. Then I got the the ssh4's, and 90% of them had roots swirling around. LOL, why is the light yielding, not overly hazy, non purpling 9+wk ssh the superstar cloner???
S7303718.JPG


Here are the current mommas. The ssh6 (no cuts yet) is on the left, with a ssh1 behind it. The Shit reveg looks like .... well... Shit. The plant looks like she is hurting, but there is new, mutated growth forming, so I'm holding out hope. The pakalolo monster is getting put into a 2gallon after I submit this message :^)
S7303719.JPG
 
Hehe just transplanted the Pakalolo, and I couldn't figgure where this 'shoot' is coming from. I raised the 'dirt collar' on the plant a lil with the re-pot, so I'm digging around, trying to find where the shoot is attached to the stem. I couldn't find it, so I look at the damn shoot, and hey, it's not a shoot at all... It's a plant ~2wks into veg (from seed) that was on the 'back' of the pakalolo in the 1 gallon. I found another in a big ssh pot in flower, but that one may die from the intense light. This thing will get flipped with the pakalolo in a few wks...

Dropping some Spice x Miss Mud and some SSH f2's 2nite :)
 
Ok, here is why SSH #1 is the JAM TREES.
S7303720.JPG


That's a fat zip (~30-35g) of SSH 1 (Iffy), and how much iffy it takes to get me to my happy place vs. my other fire (I believe the other roach was from G/Sk#2 or from some 'haze shake' - ssh4, 6, and pakalolo). Plus the Iffy is a nice, active, warm, happy high. I burned a lil, and all of a sudden bacon, eggs, and cheese appeared, and the dishes virtually cleaned themselves...

AND 1 of the dogs comes around when I light the HAZY smelling (tweener, ssh's1,5,6) buds like clockwork. He likes the hizzle. Like his daddy. :D
 
LOVE PBS. :)

I just watched Frontline profile a 85 y/o 5th gen New Orleans dood who was rebuilding his house (that he built) in the 9th ward from Nov 05 to ~08. Every time I start watching frontline, I end up watching the whole thing. Then I watched a documentary on the race to get german rocket/atomic technology/rocket scientists in the late days of WW2 and the early days of the cold war. With PBS, I get 25% more TV, cause there are no commercials, lol.

3 cannibals are eating a clown. 1 turns to the other 2 and says, "Does this taste funny to you guys?".
3 guys walk into a bar. The 4th one ducked.

You can watch all of the previous frontline episodes on pbs.org They break em up into ~15-20 min segments just for us non attentionspan havin potheads :)

"It's pronounced - 'PO-theed'..." :)
 
Some whacky weather here today. Took the dog for a walk this morning @6am and it was raining, by the end of our walk at around 7 am it was snowing the biggest snowflakes I've seen in a long while. Ice pellets and ice rain last night before all this too. I gotta get a compact disposable cam to take with me on my daily walks, don't like taking out the Nikon DSLR in bad weather.
 
Hey MedMan :) Started snowing lightly here yesterday, and looked/felt like it was gonna be bad. Still, humid, and a lil warmer than it was + lil snowflakes usually means something sloppy is coming. We got ~2" of snow, then ~1" of ice, then (freezing?) rain. Just staying @ ~30 deg now. Trees are still coated in ice. Not MY trees :-D

Ummm... I'll just shit in the woods, thanks.
S7303746.JPG


S7303747.JPG


And I found a few rolls of this scattered around the house, oddly enough...
S7303748.JPG


MedMan, we can trade cam's. I won't mind abusing the nikkon, and you won't mind abusing my samsung, lol. I started out being careful with this cam, but I've taken 3700+pix, and in and out of the growroom, woods, pockets, bookbags, rain, etc... She is a good cam, Samsung s730. I'll be upgrading soon enough...
 
S7303749.JPG


MedMan, I was in WV spring 96, and it was BEAUTIFUL. I drove through MD,. into WV --->SC, then to ATL. Oh, and it was feaknik when we got to Atlanta (google - freaknik). America is a beautiful place:^)

NJ = 38.5deg - 41.2deg
Humboldt/Trinity/Mendo = 38.5deg - 41.2deg
LB of dank bud in SF (2+hrs from mendo) $3g
LB of dank bud in NY (>90min from most of NJ) $5G++
Now what. :eek: Google 'hyper humus'.

I wish I had your nikkon for these. My neighbor has 2 x (probably)400 MH's on the back of the house (It's NOT the hood, dood...), and while it makes for limited plant spots in the summer (re-veg much?), it makes the frozen branches sparkle.
S7303750.JPG

S7303751.JPG
 
It's COLD.:rolleyes:
Best I could do. (orig)
S7303755.JPG


Brightness ~+65; Contrast ~+40
S7303755adj.JPG

...now barletta is a pho-tog teacher...:rolleyes:
 
I found this on IC from ~a yr ago. I had my first 4 ssh's (that I finished) ~3/4wks from seed, and ~2wks before I flipped em. I had torn down ~a month earlier (for all of ~4days).

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=78595&page=5&pp=15
barletta
I posted this in another thread, but I am sure that we are all on the same page...

"I have never smoked super silver haze to my knowlege, but I used to get "Haze" uptown NYC for like 8 years w/o ever smelling anything like it. I used to call it "Garbage", cause it smelled like a flowery yard on Staten Island (HUGE landfill) on a warm day. It was absolutely the strongest bud that I have ever had. As it was commercial, I have to assume that whomever grows it goes less than 12 wks. I hope that I can find something that blows my mind like that bud in SSH/spice. They stopped serving me when Guliani cracked down lol. Brickweed has me reminiscing ...."

I got some bud tonite w/o any hype that has a similar scent. NO WHERE near the old 20's. That was by far the best herb I have ever smoked. I never saw laced weed uptown, and as a youth, I made the trip weekly for mids/schwag + 20's. I never paid attention to what they called it. Sometimes the 20's would come with 10's stapled to em.......The racing feeling, numbness, face flushing is for real. If I hadn't smoked during the same day that I got the bud, I was NON-FUNCTIONAL for 2-3 hours. Only hash has done that to me. I have only been growing a lil bit, but I need that "Garbage" in my life...
I'm smoking my favorite smoke of ~100 plants that I've run (iffy), and it's close to 'block pif', but not quite. I need to get some Af/Hz in my life...

EDIT - Did the quick math, and prolly closer to ~60 different plants. 10 under flouros, ~20 outside, ~30 down below. No, check that, the proxy hung up, and I was counting (ssh is EXPANSIVE :^), and I'm up over 55 different plants just down below. Like a trip down memory lane. ~100 to judge from :)
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top