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From my point of view the enemy is the UK government... they are hypocritical basdards... I think today is J day in the UK... yet we cannot spark a J legally in our homes, though those with med certs from another EU country can!!! its a joke... when Sativex gets classed as Sched 4 people need to step off their arses and start doing things... ffs people can bring weed or medicinal meds into this country yet we the people in this country have a prob getting sativex off the nhs... good stories about Mj don't sell papers.. WE need to up the anti... See I can go to amsterdam get my 3 months or less supply and bring it back yet I can't grow etc in my own home...
Legal Medicinal Cannabis in UK | Facebook
Canna will/is be big business... good luck to GW the fact is they are years ahead of anyone in relation to working with governments and the access to plants. but like Krok says if they can patent why can't we?
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That's the scary part to me Pete, Your already fucked in the UK a bit if they own 2 plant patents. If the 2 patents are strictly for those 2 plants that they work with, i think that they should own them, but it gives them right to all skunk genetics, that crosses the line. But a synthetic cultivar that you can prove you bred and spent years working on sounds like intellectual property to me.
I'd be fucking pissed if it was granted solely on the fact they claimed they invented feminized seed technique. Breeding for a cannabinoid free cultivar is pretty damn basic if you understand the biosythetic pathways and genetic relation to all of it. It is as simple as a blood type.
I'd be fucking pissed if it was granted solely on the fact they claimed they invented feminized seed technique. Breeding for a cannabinoid free cultivar is pretty damn basic if you understand the biosythetic pathways and genetic relation to all of it. It is as simple as a blood type.
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Well that is the million dollar question isn't it? The answer quite simply is: That if GW Pharma's lobbying is successful and herb is rescheduled to a class 4 controlled substance, then only a large pharmaceutical like GW could ever even hope to get the necessary permits to work with the plant much less apply for any patent associated with it.
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Oh come on Coop... That's not even the half of it.
You wouldn't have any right to be pissed by the way, because if you are a share holder it was your hard earned dollars that helped make it happen.
This is why I can't understand why you have chosen to invest in GW pharma. It seems to me like you are shooting yourself(as well as the rest of us) in the foot.
GW Pharma is deadset against this. If this happens they will probably go out of business within a few years. They have also been more successful than anyone else in taking steps to make sure that "straight up legalization" never happens.
So let me get this straight Coop. You bought a bunch of stock in GW Pharma, then you decided to promote the stock over here on MNS?
Perhaps you think that if we all go out and buy GW Pharma it's gonna help your stock rise?
No offense Coop but that is kind of low. GW Pharma is trying to destroy the livlihood of folks like Shanti and all the other breeders and growers on this site through international lobbying and other forms of subterfuge.
Why would you do that Coop. Just to make a buck?
I just don't get it man.
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josh stock goes for like 120 british pound a share. Let me go to the bank and run out and amass a fortune. I told you where i buy seeds too.
Like i told you, you are a charlatan, i deal with actual sick people who need cannabis for medicine, assholes such as yourself can only say that real pharmaceuticals backed by science are the boogie man. I asked you before how does this affect those providing meds for themselves and others it doesnt.
No offense to shanti or men like him, but I'm sure he would be the first one to bow out of the game if it was for the good of mankind and helping those who truly need it. You do also know that Shanti was given a granted a charter by the Swiss government, I am not sure of his current legal standing, but there's a reason why in that corner it says research and seedbank.
There is nothing to get man, your the one profiting off cannabis here in the name of Medicine, while i deal with the struggle of family members who can't get out of bed in the morning. So while you are out in La-La land cultivating powdery mildew and worrying about your next crop on consignment I will be helping those who actually need it since no one else will.
And this is my exit,
the rest of you can get selfed too.
Like i told you, you are a charlatan, i deal with actual sick people who need cannabis for medicine, assholes such as yourself can only say that real pharmaceuticals backed by science are the boogie man. I asked you before how does this affect those providing meds for themselves and others it doesnt.
No offense to shanti or men like him, but I'm sure he would be the first one to bow out of the game if it was for the good of mankind and helping those who truly need it. You do also know that Shanti was given a granted a charter by the Swiss government, I am not sure of his current legal standing, but there's a reason why in that corner it says research and seedbank.
There is nothing to get man, your the one profiting off cannabis here in the name of Medicine, while i deal with the struggle of family members who can't get out of bed in the morning. So while you are out in La-La land cultivating powdery mildew and worrying about your next crop on consignment I will be helping those who actually need it since no one else will.
And this is my exit,
the rest of you can get selfed too.
joshuahazen
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josh stock goes for like 120 british pound a share. Let me go to the bank and run out and amass a fortune. I told you where i buy seeds too.
Like i told you, you are a charlatan, i deal with actual sick people who need cannabis for medicine, assholes such as yourself can only say that real pharmaceuticals backed by science are the boogie man. I asked you before how does this affect those providing meds for themselves and others it doesnt.
No offense to shanti or men like him, but I'm sure he would be the first one to bow out of the game if it was for the good of mankind and helping those who truly need it. You do also know that Shanti was given a granted a charter by the Swiss government, I am not sure of his current legal standing, but there's a reason why in that corner it says research and seedbank.
There is nothing to get man, your the one profiting off cannabis here in the name of Medicine, while i deal with the struggle of family members who can't get out of bed in the morning. So while you are out in La-La land cultivating powdery mildew and worrying about your next crop on consignment I will be helping those who actually need it since no one else will.
And this is my exit,
the rest of you can get selfed too.
Source:http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/6-breede...lant-patent-cbc-rich-production-plants-6.html
Well Coop the truth comes out... Not only are you trying to tell people how to breed, when you are not a breeder, but you are suggesting to folks that they invest in a company which you yourself are not even invested in.
Who's the Charlatan?
As for suggesting pharmaceuticals are the boogeyman... Well I guess in your Brave New World Coop, pharmaceuticals are the pure golden champions of humanity, warding off evil and disease with the shining sword of science...
The rest of us live in the real world Coop.
You really think weed is the only herb they are trying to stop or control?
Think again Coop.
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/3-daily-news/6650-eu-1-day-save-herbal-medicine.html
If you think the above thread is interesting check out the info on Codex Alimentarius in the thread below.
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/3-daily-news/5624-europe-ban-hundreds-herbal-remedies.html
The Military and Big Pharma have been in bed since the advent of biological warfare in the late thirties and early forties.
Ever heard of the military industrial complex? I didn't think so.... You are a such a tool. I pity you for your ignorance; you remind me of that rare Jew in Pre Nazi Germany who actually supported Hitler.
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josh i told you before.
Its about states rights.
Now stop trolling me and read a fucking book or 10
pharma companies producing drugs are not my enemy, neither is the stock market.
Seems to me that you have an issue with science and math as your enemy.
Its about states rights.
Now stop trolling me and read a fucking book or 10
pharma companies producing drugs are not my enemy, neither is the stock market.
Seems to me that you have an issue with science and math as your enemy.
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i will take a bow to that. The one real Jew still around, looking out for the people even the sinners.
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HENK BLANKEN − 04/12/97, 00:00
Goedheilig no man in the magazines, whether it was Bolkestein (HP / De Tijd), or Mulisch (UN). Geen goedheilig man in de bladen, of het moest Bolkestein zijn (HP/De Tijd), of Mulisch (VN). Or, in HN: Course ZwaPiSi .... Of toch, in HN: de cursus ZwaPiSi....
HO / TIME Own news. HO/DE TIJD Eigen nieuws. Nederwiet show in 1985 imported by an American with an alias, a criminal and unscrupulous. Nederwiet blijkt al in 1985 geïmporteerd door een Amerikaan met een alias, een strafblad en weinig scrupules. This David Watson (Sam Selezny ') in the Netherlands would have been an opium license from the Ministry of Health, after which he reasonably efficient competitors fought them to indicate to the authorities. Deze David Watson ('Sam Selezny') zou in Nederland een opiumverlof hebben gekregen van het ministerie van Volksgezondheid, waarna hij concurrenten tamelijk efficiënt bestreed door ze aan te geven bij justitie. Not solidified suggestion is that Watson has been released by the U.S. DEA in the polders so many years later, the names of cannabis growers to be able to play. Niet hard gemaakte suggestie is dat Watson door de Amerikaanse DEA is losgelaten in de polders om zo veel jaren later de namen van nederwietkwekers te kunnen doorspelen.
Frits Bolkestein was to stay at a congress of Liberal International. Blijvertje is Frits Bolkestein tijdens een congres van de Liberale Internationale. Not that he says funny things, too nimble for. Niet dat hij rare dingen zegt; te behendig voor. Devil lies in how this' ideological beacon of VVD says things. Venijn zit 'm in hoe dit 'ideologisch baken' van de VVD de dingen zegt. That ('We are all liberals now') no reason is something else to vote. Dat er ('We are all liberals now') geen enkele reden meer is iets anders te stemmen. Wiegel best that could be prime minister, but also not really: Dat Wiegel best premier kan worden, maar toch eigenlijk ook weer niet:
I think he's my social-democratic Vrind is not very convincing, very old, there's so much that his premiership would be frustrating. Ik denk dat hij op mijn sociaal-democratische vrinden niet erg overtuigend overkomt; daar zit zoveel oud zeer dat het zijn premierschap zou frusteren.
And do not Bolkestein 'intellectual and ideological indispensable: En dat Bolkestein zelf niet 'intellectueel en ideologisch' onmisbaar is:
I'm not an intellectual, I'm a politician. Ik ben geen intellectueel, ik ben politicus. An intellectual in politics is a recipe for disaster. Een intellectueel in de politiek is een recept voor een ramp.
THE GREEN Liro The discovery of the archive (on stolen Jewish property) was in the street before the green. DE GROENE De ontdekking van het Liro-archief (over geroofd joods bezit) lag op straat vóór De Groene. Leek was destroyed but simply on the top floor of a only by a 'kraakwacht "occupied house on the Herengracht. Leek vernietigd maar bevond zich gewoon op de bovenste verdieping van een slechts door een 'kraakwacht' bewoond huis aan de Herengracht.
In the Green-essay writer Sibil Bilgin a plea for abolishing the term immigrant. In het Groene-essay een pleidooi van schrijfster Sibil Bilgin voor afschaffing van de term allochtoon. A separate world of immigrants is not, and who pretends otherwise, lies trapped in dead-end thinking. Een aparte wereld van allochtonen is er niet, en wie doet alsof het anders is, zit 'gevangen in doodlopende denkpatronen'.
Drawing lines between 'us' and 'them' in terms of ethnicity involves assigning inferior to the other attributes and idealisation of their own image. Het trekken van lijnen tussen 'wij' en 'zij' op grond van etniciteit gaat gepaard met het toekennen van inferieure kenmerken aan de ander en het idealiseren van het eigen beeld.
Against the footballer John Wolf and his frustrated career continued in an Israeli club (headline: "My children suffered from hunger") you expect in The Green not to run. Tegen voetballer John de Wolf en zijn gefnuikte carrièrevoortzetting bij een Israëlische club (kop: 'Mijn kinderen leden honger') verwacht je in De Groene niet aan te lopen. And against 'gene robbery': how pharmaceutical companies 'pure' genetic material purchase of "indigenous peoples". Wél tegen 'genenroof': hoe farmaceutische concerns 'puur' genetisch materiaal opkopen van 'inheemse volkeren'. A Peruvian Indian: Een Peruaanse indiaan:
When she first came here, they killed the animals. Toen ze voor het eerst hier kwamen, doodden ze de dieren. Then they took the minerals and cut down the forest. Toen namen ze de mineralen en kapten ze het bos. And now we are left alone, they come to us. En nu alleen wij nog over zijn, komen ze voor ons.
FREE NETHERLANDS Only Harry Mulisch can get the idea "a mirror of my soul" when asked to twelve 'cabinets' in Amsterdam's Stedelijk Museum in focus. VRIJ NEDERLAND Alleen Harry Mulisch kan op de gedachte komen 'een spiegel van mijn ziel' te maken als hem gevraagd wordt twaalf 'kabinetten' in het Amsterdams Stedelijk Museum in te richten. The agreement to write about it ("I was afraid of that. I always write something '), he generously after the UN: De afspraak erover te schrijven ('Daar was ik al bang voor. Ik moet altijd iets schrijven') komt hij ruimhartig na in VN:
It had twelve rooms () did me good. Dat het twaalf ruimten waren () beviel mij goed. It was a nice number, for months, hours, show, Israel's tribes and apostles - so not too little to form my basic layout. Het was een mooi getal, geschikt voor maanden, uren, tonen, stammen Israëls en apostelen - dus ook niet te min om mijn basisindeling te vormen.
Also Arend Jan Dunning, chairman of the committee that the Labour Party fielded candidates. Ook Arend Jan Dunning, voorzitter van de PvdA-commissie die de kandidatenlijst opstelde. About two man and three woman, suffering and little moral condemnation: Over man op twee en vrouw op drie, klein leed en morele veroordeling:
Others jumped back a hole in the air when the forty-second place went to the fortieth. Anderen sprongen weer een gat in de lucht als ze van de tweeënveertigste naar de veertigste plaats stegen. That was then regarded as a huge promotion. Dat werd dan als een gigantische promotie beschouwd. Is not that laughable? Dat is toch lachwekkend?
Yes we can, as an aside: Nou en of, net als Terzijde:
Melkert state with two women before him were really just the third? Staat Melkert met twee vrouwen voor zich eigenlijk toch gewoon derde?
ELSEVIER About the IND, the department dealing with judicial 'decision officials "worry about" undocumented asylum seekers' and Europe's external borders. ELSEVIER Alles over de IND, de dienst die zich met justitiële 'beslisambtenaren' druk maakt over 'ongedocumenteerde asielzoekers' en de buitengrenzen van Europa. And much of what is just beyond the borders is wrong: three excellent stories about countries who will want to be part of the Union. En veel over wat er net voorbij die grenzen aan de hand is: drie uitstekende verhalen over landen die straks deel willen uitmaken van de Unie. Under what Estonia. Onder welke Estland. First president of the new republic Mart Laar: Eerste president van de nieuwe republiek Mart Laar:
Beating the budget we had to do fifty percent cut all subsidies for agriculture, industry and the local civil service were abolished. Om de begroting kloppend te maken moesten we vijftig procent bezuinigen, alle subsidies voor landbouw, industrie en het lokale ambtenarenapparaat werden afgeschaft. It was work or die. Het was werken of sterven.
And Rob de Nijs, because of upcoming anniversary concerts: En Rob de Nijs, vanwege aanstaande jubileumconcerten:
Dutch is a singer for a horrible language. Nederlands is voor een zanger een gruwelijke taal. Hard sounds with lots of g's. Harde klanken met veel g's. Yet I have always focused on the language to nice to let my throat, so that it is an ointment instead of a saw. Toch heb ik mij er altijd op toegelegd om die taal mooi uit mijn strot te laten komen, zodat het een zalf wordt in plaats van een zaag.
HN MAGAZINE Asian financial markets falter and then in Japan as banks close down, insert here 'nippofobie' appeared. HN-MAGAZINE De Aziatische financiële markten wankelen en als er dan in Japan banken op de fles gaan, steekt hier 'nippofobie' de kop op. Elsewhere an excommunicated liberation theologian from Sri Lanka it all: Elders zegt een geëxcommuniceerde bevrijdingstheoloog uit Sri Lanka het al:
Ah, technology books Westerners still progress, but in proportion to their fertility and population declines. Ach, technologisch boeken de westerlingen nog vooruitgang, maar in vruchtbaarheid en bevolkingsaandeel gaan zij erop achteruit.
No, the trainer ZwaPiSi, Rien van den Heuvel: Nee, dan die cursusleider ZwaPiSi, Rien van den Heuvel:
Especially the beards are often appalling. Vooral de baarden zijn vaak hemeltergend.
Henk Blanken Henk Blanken
http://www.google.com/search?q="Fou...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
you can figure out that translation, you might want to then work on the hebrew bible too.
Goedheilig no man in the magazines, whether it was Bolkestein (HP / De Tijd), or Mulisch (UN). Geen goedheilig man in de bladen, of het moest Bolkestein zijn (HP/De Tijd), of Mulisch (VN). Or, in HN: Course ZwaPiSi .... Of toch, in HN: de cursus ZwaPiSi....
HO / TIME Own news. HO/DE TIJD Eigen nieuws. Nederwiet show in 1985 imported by an American with an alias, a criminal and unscrupulous. Nederwiet blijkt al in 1985 geïmporteerd door een Amerikaan met een alias, een strafblad en weinig scrupules. This David Watson (Sam Selezny ') in the Netherlands would have been an opium license from the Ministry of Health, after which he reasonably efficient competitors fought them to indicate to the authorities. Deze David Watson ('Sam Selezny') zou in Nederland een opiumverlof hebben gekregen van het ministerie van Volksgezondheid, waarna hij concurrenten tamelijk efficiënt bestreed door ze aan te geven bij justitie. Not solidified suggestion is that Watson has been released by the U.S. DEA in the polders so many years later, the names of cannabis growers to be able to play. Niet hard gemaakte suggestie is dat Watson door de Amerikaanse DEA is losgelaten in de polders om zo veel jaren later de namen van nederwietkwekers te kunnen doorspelen.
Frits Bolkestein was to stay at a congress of Liberal International. Blijvertje is Frits Bolkestein tijdens een congres van de Liberale Internationale. Not that he says funny things, too nimble for. Niet dat hij rare dingen zegt; te behendig voor. Devil lies in how this' ideological beacon of VVD says things. Venijn zit 'm in hoe dit 'ideologisch baken' van de VVD de dingen zegt. That ('We are all liberals now') no reason is something else to vote. Dat er ('We are all liberals now') geen enkele reden meer is iets anders te stemmen. Wiegel best that could be prime minister, but also not really: Dat Wiegel best premier kan worden, maar toch eigenlijk ook weer niet:
I think he's my social-democratic Vrind is not very convincing, very old, there's so much that his premiership would be frustrating. Ik denk dat hij op mijn sociaal-democratische vrinden niet erg overtuigend overkomt; daar zit zoveel oud zeer dat het zijn premierschap zou frusteren.
And do not Bolkestein 'intellectual and ideological indispensable: En dat Bolkestein zelf niet 'intellectueel en ideologisch' onmisbaar is:
I'm not an intellectual, I'm a politician. Ik ben geen intellectueel, ik ben politicus. An intellectual in politics is a recipe for disaster. Een intellectueel in de politiek is een recept voor een ramp.
THE GREEN Liro The discovery of the archive (on stolen Jewish property) was in the street before the green. DE GROENE De ontdekking van het Liro-archief (over geroofd joods bezit) lag op straat vóór De Groene. Leek was destroyed but simply on the top floor of a only by a 'kraakwacht "occupied house on the Herengracht. Leek vernietigd maar bevond zich gewoon op de bovenste verdieping van een slechts door een 'kraakwacht' bewoond huis aan de Herengracht.
In the Green-essay writer Sibil Bilgin a plea for abolishing the term immigrant. In het Groene-essay een pleidooi van schrijfster Sibil Bilgin voor afschaffing van de term allochtoon. A separate world of immigrants is not, and who pretends otherwise, lies trapped in dead-end thinking. Een aparte wereld van allochtonen is er niet, en wie doet alsof het anders is, zit 'gevangen in doodlopende denkpatronen'.
Drawing lines between 'us' and 'them' in terms of ethnicity involves assigning inferior to the other attributes and idealisation of their own image. Het trekken van lijnen tussen 'wij' en 'zij' op grond van etniciteit gaat gepaard met het toekennen van inferieure kenmerken aan de ander en het idealiseren van het eigen beeld.
Against the footballer John Wolf and his frustrated career continued in an Israeli club (headline: "My children suffered from hunger") you expect in The Green not to run. Tegen voetballer John de Wolf en zijn gefnuikte carrièrevoortzetting bij een Israëlische club (kop: 'Mijn kinderen leden honger') verwacht je in De Groene niet aan te lopen. And against 'gene robbery': how pharmaceutical companies 'pure' genetic material purchase of "indigenous peoples". Wél tegen 'genenroof': hoe farmaceutische concerns 'puur' genetisch materiaal opkopen van 'inheemse volkeren'. A Peruvian Indian: Een Peruaanse indiaan:
When she first came here, they killed the animals. Toen ze voor het eerst hier kwamen, doodden ze de dieren. Then they took the minerals and cut down the forest. Toen namen ze de mineralen en kapten ze het bos. And now we are left alone, they come to us. En nu alleen wij nog over zijn, komen ze voor ons.
FREE NETHERLANDS Only Harry Mulisch can get the idea "a mirror of my soul" when asked to twelve 'cabinets' in Amsterdam's Stedelijk Museum in focus. VRIJ NEDERLAND Alleen Harry Mulisch kan op de gedachte komen 'een spiegel van mijn ziel' te maken als hem gevraagd wordt twaalf 'kabinetten' in het Amsterdams Stedelijk Museum in te richten. The agreement to write about it ("I was afraid of that. I always write something '), he generously after the UN: De afspraak erover te schrijven ('Daar was ik al bang voor. Ik moet altijd iets schrijven') komt hij ruimhartig na in VN:
It had twelve rooms () did me good. Dat het twaalf ruimten waren () beviel mij goed. It was a nice number, for months, hours, show, Israel's tribes and apostles - so not too little to form my basic layout. Het was een mooi getal, geschikt voor maanden, uren, tonen, stammen Israëls en apostelen - dus ook niet te min om mijn basisindeling te vormen.
Also Arend Jan Dunning, chairman of the committee that the Labour Party fielded candidates. Ook Arend Jan Dunning, voorzitter van de PvdA-commissie die de kandidatenlijst opstelde. About two man and three woman, suffering and little moral condemnation: Over man op twee en vrouw op drie, klein leed en morele veroordeling:
Others jumped back a hole in the air when the forty-second place went to the fortieth. Anderen sprongen weer een gat in de lucht als ze van de tweeënveertigste naar de veertigste plaats stegen. That was then regarded as a huge promotion. Dat werd dan als een gigantische promotie beschouwd. Is not that laughable? Dat is toch lachwekkend?
Yes we can, as an aside: Nou en of, net als Terzijde:
Melkert state with two women before him were really just the third? Staat Melkert met twee vrouwen voor zich eigenlijk toch gewoon derde?
ELSEVIER About the IND, the department dealing with judicial 'decision officials "worry about" undocumented asylum seekers' and Europe's external borders. ELSEVIER Alles over de IND, de dienst die zich met justitiële 'beslisambtenaren' druk maakt over 'ongedocumenteerde asielzoekers' en de buitengrenzen van Europa. And much of what is just beyond the borders is wrong: three excellent stories about countries who will want to be part of the Union. En veel over wat er net voorbij die grenzen aan de hand is: drie uitstekende verhalen over landen die straks deel willen uitmaken van de Unie. Under what Estonia. Onder welke Estland. First president of the new republic Mart Laar: Eerste president van de nieuwe republiek Mart Laar:
Beating the budget we had to do fifty percent cut all subsidies for agriculture, industry and the local civil service were abolished. Om de begroting kloppend te maken moesten we vijftig procent bezuinigen, alle subsidies voor landbouw, industrie en het lokale ambtenarenapparaat werden afgeschaft. It was work or die. Het was werken of sterven.
And Rob de Nijs, because of upcoming anniversary concerts: En Rob de Nijs, vanwege aanstaande jubileumconcerten:
Dutch is a singer for a horrible language. Nederlands is voor een zanger een gruwelijke taal. Hard sounds with lots of g's. Harde klanken met veel g's. Yet I have always focused on the language to nice to let my throat, so that it is an ointment instead of a saw. Toch heb ik mij er altijd op toegelegd om die taal mooi uit mijn strot te laten komen, zodat het een zalf wordt in plaats van een zaag.
HN MAGAZINE Asian financial markets falter and then in Japan as banks close down, insert here 'nippofobie' appeared. HN-MAGAZINE De Aziatische financiële markten wankelen en als er dan in Japan banken op de fles gaan, steekt hier 'nippofobie' de kop op. Elsewhere an excommunicated liberation theologian from Sri Lanka it all: Elders zegt een geëxcommuniceerde bevrijdingstheoloog uit Sri Lanka het al:
Ah, technology books Westerners still progress, but in proportion to their fertility and population declines. Ach, technologisch boeken de westerlingen nog vooruitgang, maar in vruchtbaarheid en bevolkingsaandeel gaan zij erop achteruit.
No, the trainer ZwaPiSi, Rien van den Heuvel: Nee, dan die cursusleider ZwaPiSi, Rien van den Heuvel:
Especially the beards are often appalling. Vooral de baarden zijn vaak hemeltergend.
Henk Blanken Henk Blanken
http://www.google.com/search?q="Fou...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
you can figure out that translation, you might want to then work on the hebrew bible too.
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http://www.unodc.org/pdf/WDR_2006/wdr2006_volume1.pdf
while you guys are reading take a note on this
6 Landrace’ strains are those that have evolved over a period of time in a particular geographic region, e.g. ‘Acapulco Gold’.
97 Preston, B (2002) Pot Planet. New York: Grove. P. 154. This account was confirmed by informants in active in early cannabis breeding scene in interviews with the author in Ams- terdam in November 2004.
while you guys are reading take a note on this
6 Landrace’ strains are those that have evolved over a period of time in a particular geographic region, e.g. ‘Acapulco Gold’.
97 Preston, B (2002) Pot Planet. New York: Grove. P. 154. This account was confirmed by informants in active in early cannabis breeding scene in interviews with the author in Ams- terdam in November 2004.
joshuahazen
New member
The Feds trump the states. The pharma companies that you worship are lobbying at all levels to stop you from helping your bedridden family, so that they might reap a profit of thousands per year from each head.
I love science and math. But like all tools they are frequently misused.
You obviously have no idea who your enemy is.
Like science and math, you are a tool, one that is obviously being misused by big pharma.
You are a tool for the very institutions that would subjugate you and your family.
Not very smart Coop.
I am not trolling you, I am keeping this thread on topic.
If you will recall, the topic of this thread is "Corporate Takeover".
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JessE
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I believe l33t had originally brought this information up some time ago in the Origins of Haze and The Fertilizer of Economic Growth threads. Both here and at Icmag. Ive always found it interesting just how much information is out there surrounding Sam the Skunk Man. I was rather surprised to find out someone that I was familiar with for years on the cannabis board, whom I had spoken with quite a bit, was so well known and connected?
Even more surprising, was how none of this information had made it to discussion at any cannabis board. For over a decade! Sit and think about that one for a second! Just how many people had to be complicit for this information not to surface?
What the fuck? Josh, you got any idea's how this could have happened?
joshuahazen
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Hi Jesse
I got no idea man....
What do you think?
Educate me
I have never seen this shit before...
What the fuck is this shit?
Wacko man...
It looks like code to me. I tried to read it but I don't know (Dutch?) most of whatever language it is in.
Coop are you going off the deep end or what?
RCC
Hey Kyle,
Thanks for checking in brother, you touch on great points, and I myself wonder what has happened to R.C Clarke. This is a man I think we all had great respect for, but in terms of recent developments throughout the years and his long time association with Sam the Skunkman...
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Thanks very much Neville and JessE. You've dedicated a lot of love toward a better green future. Thanks so much.
I am concerned about what might be hidden from view in this discussion, and others pertaining to this never-ending drama. The info is necessary and the points well-made, but so are some of the rebuttals. So many viewpoints that can easily be mistaken for "the truth". Still, Shantibaba's version, Neville's input, and JessE's deep research add up to trouble and I am disheartened that my good old time friend RCC might be going over to the Dark Side.
At some point in our lives we all are tempted by the Dark Side's offerings. When it catches us up we might spend many years doing its biddings and then suddenly, if we're lucky, we wake up. Others continue blindly with varying reasons and justifications and run down the rabbit hole and never look back until the hole closes or the darkness overcomes them totally. A heavy heart eventually leads to heavy health problems.
Like Shanti and Howard, I spent some years inside on a government sponsored vacation that was actually all of my own design. I designed it by being seduced by the Dark Side and following my ego rather than my heart. Amazing this life!
As always, the Universe supplied me with the healing time to look inside that my heart and spirit yearned for but my ego could not abide. Fortunately, while inside, I met a great group of men at the Inipi, the sweat lodge, where they and I connected to our true spirits and intentions once again. My wake up call was not too expensive in the long run compared to what I might have become had I continued to follow the seductions of the Dark Side.
Yoda was right,"Do, or do not. There is no try".
Hey Kyle,
Thanks for checking in brother, you touch on great points, and I myself wonder what has happened to R.C Clarke. This is a man I think we all had great respect for, but in terms of recent developments throughout the years and his long time association with Sam the Skunkman...
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Thanks very much Neville and JessE. You've dedicated a lot of love toward a better green future. Thanks so much.
I am concerned about what might be hidden from view in this discussion, and others pertaining to this never-ending drama. The info is necessary and the points well-made, but so are some of the rebuttals. So many viewpoints that can easily be mistaken for "the truth". Still, Shantibaba's version, Neville's input, and JessE's deep research add up to trouble and I am disheartened that my good old time friend RCC might be going over to the Dark Side.
At some point in our lives we all are tempted by the Dark Side's offerings. When it catches us up we might spend many years doing its biddings and then suddenly, if we're lucky, we wake up. Others continue blindly with varying reasons and justifications and run down the rabbit hole and never look back until the hole closes or the darkness overcomes them totally. A heavy heart eventually leads to heavy health problems.
Like Shanti and Howard, I spent some years inside on a government sponsored vacation that was actually all of my own design. I designed it by being seduced by the Dark Side and following my ego rather than my heart. Amazing this life!
As always, the Universe supplied me with the healing time to look inside that my heart and spirit yearned for but my ego could not abide. Fortunately, while inside, I met a great group of men at the Inipi, the sweat lodge, where they and I connected to our true spirits and intentions once again. My wake up call was not too expensive in the long run compared to what I might have become had I continued to follow the seductions of the Dark Side.
Yoda was right,"Do, or do not. There is no try".
KROK, I agree. All plants eventually get turned into herbal extracts, supplements, tinctures, or plant derivative medicines if they have useful properties.
Cannabis has more useful properties than most plants because of the amazing array of cannabinoids, each unique and having specific uses. Though many of the cannabinoids' properties overlap in their effectiveness and focus, this concept points to the medicinal extracts and future combinations of these derivatives as unique medicines.
You can grow, smoke, ingest as a tea, tincture, or edible, a high-CBD strain of cannabis for its anti-inflammatory and pain-relieving properties. In a few years, you'll be able to take a high-CBD cannabis-derived medicine that has a stable dosage and is prescribed by medical doctors for the same intention. In a pill. At the Mayo Clinic and all doctor's offices. Medical Marijuana dispensaries will seem quaint as media rails against smoking cannabis and new studies are touted that smoking cannabis is just as dangerous as smoking tobacco or some other nonsense. But we know what we like, yes?
No doubt the insurance companies are going to get wealthier, too.
Everyone makes out.
For myself, like KROK, I don't really care as long as I can grow my own or buy yours. I don't believe that the Terminator gene or fem seed is going to destroy the world of cannabis in a giant, conspiratorial swoop. More people, however, will be able to use quality cannabis medicine in an allopathic (the current mainstream, traditional medicine) form if they want to rather than smoking or eating the actual plant. Think of coffee, USP caffeine extracted from coffee, and all the energy drinks on the market with caffeine.
Heck, even Mountain Dew has high caffeine content.
It's not a perfect world...but the world is perfect.
Cannabis has more useful properties than most plants because of the amazing array of cannabinoids, each unique and having specific uses. Though many of the cannabinoids' properties overlap in their effectiveness and focus, this concept points to the medicinal extracts and future combinations of these derivatives as unique medicines.
You can grow, smoke, ingest as a tea, tincture, or edible, a high-CBD strain of cannabis for its anti-inflammatory and pain-relieving properties. In a few years, you'll be able to take a high-CBD cannabis-derived medicine that has a stable dosage and is prescribed by medical doctors for the same intention. In a pill. At the Mayo Clinic and all doctor's offices. Medical Marijuana dispensaries will seem quaint as media rails against smoking cannabis and new studies are touted that smoking cannabis is just as dangerous as smoking tobacco or some other nonsense. But we know what we like, yes?
No doubt the insurance companies are going to get wealthier, too.
Everyone makes out.
For myself, like KROK, I don't really care as long as I can grow my own or buy yours. I don't believe that the Terminator gene or fem seed is going to destroy the world of cannabis in a giant, conspiratorial swoop. More people, however, will be able to use quality cannabis medicine in an allopathic (the current mainstream, traditional medicine) form if they want to rather than smoking or eating the actual plant. Think of coffee, USP caffeine extracted from coffee, and all the energy drinks on the market with caffeine.
Heck, even Mountain Dew has high caffeine content.
It's not a perfect world...but the world is perfect.
The Dude
New member
Idea
I think an important point overlooked here is..........
We the POT HEADS control what and from where we SMOKE.
What if among ourselves We The POT HEADS !
in a "beautiful and loving way"
Have a little faith in our selves and this great ancient and very sacred medicine.
Educate the people
Don't scare them or bully them with belittling nonsense
Tell them the truth . As it is in Fact .
Destructive Interference is motivated by nonsense and creates nothing,
(This is a fact supported by common sense)
Constructive Interference can make a Blind Man See .
(I'm not talking figuratively)
It's becoming tiresome and misleading having to read though non constructive criticism , in order to learn something new , .... Do u know What I'm saying .
I think an important point overlooked here is..........
We the POT HEADS control what and from where we SMOKE.
What if among ourselves We The POT HEADS !
in a "beautiful and loving way"
Have a little faith in our selves and this great ancient and very sacred medicine.
Educate the people
Don't scare them or bully them with belittling nonsense
Tell them the truth . As it is in Fact .
Destructive Interference is motivated by nonsense and creates nothing,
(This is a fact supported by common sense)
Constructive Interference can make a Blind Man See .
(I'm not talking figuratively)
It's becoming tiresome and misleading having to read though non constructive criticism , in order to learn something new , .... Do u know What I'm saying .
india sherpa
New member
yeah,good post
gotta say,thanks, there were things i was,wasent aware of....
gotta say,thanks, there were things i was,wasent aware of....
Big Sur
Well-known member
Bumping this good old thread
I did the same thing myself when I saw that African video with Arjan talking about how great fem seeds would be, sourced from Amsterdam sources. All because standard seeds decline after 4 years of inbreeding and replanting, and all those pesky males that have to be culled every year! Puke puke puke.
Sad that the locals never figured out that they could just make clones of the best first year females. Or breed the first year grows and freeze them to use those seeds in subsequent years and avoid the local adaptation/decline.
I did the same thing myself when I saw that African video with Arjan talking about how great fem seeds would be, sourced from Amsterdam sources. All because standard seeds decline after 4 years of inbreeding and replanting, and all those pesky males that have to be culled every year! Puke puke puke.
Sad that the locals never figured out that they could just make clones of the best first year females. Or breed the first year grows and freeze them to use those seeds in subsequent years and avoid the local adaptation/decline.