Blast From The Past

Apr 2019
Article April 2019 La Dolce Vita English version
Title; The Father of Seedbanks, Nevil Schoenmakers died March 30th 2019, and will be forever a legend in the Cannabis World.
Nevil Schoenmakers (The Seedbank), along with Howard Marks (Mr. Nice) and Me, Scott Blakey (The Greenhouse Seed Company) were the founding partners of the old school seed company Mr. Nice Seedbank set up in 1998. I set up the Greenhouse Seed Company with my ex Dutch partner Arjan in 1994, while Nevil had set up The Seedbank in the 1980s, which later was to be renamed The Sensi Seed Bank when Ben Dronkers bought it…the rest is now history.
In 2016 Howard died after a battle with bowel cancer…now in 2019 March 30th Nevil also died from an infection after battling cancer and Hepatitis C for many years. I already miss them both dearly but I will never forget the history we shared and the fun we had on the way to cutting new paths in the Cannabis Industry.
When we all started our individual journeys, the Cannabis industry was illegal, undercover, and a sub-culture that most did not discuss if they were involve or active in it since everyone who knew could compromise the activity! How times changed and attitudes mellowed? Nonetheless, each one of us has had our experiences with the legal system in the days gone by which in some way shaped our futures individually.
Howard was a well known public figure who had the gift of the gab, and made a living giving shows after the illicit days of smuggling. What people may not know about Nevil is the type of person he really was to work with and to be around, as he was more affected by circumstances and stories in the early 1990s than either me or Howard.
Nevil was difficult to read at times and had a somewhat enigmatic presence, demanding seriousness and attention to detail in all he did. His passion for breeding was not only in Cannabis but he bred Budgies, Guppies to feed the birds, Sheep, Coy Carp and Horses. The problem was most of these animals took too long to breed and costs involved were extremely high. Since Cannabis was the quickest and cheapest to breed, Nevil concentrated on this aspect to be able to achieve goals in realistic time frames. I was involved in breeding all my life and when I came to Holland in 1990, and linked up with Nevil we began a long and successful working relationship that changed the course of modern day Cannabis strains used for mainly recreational purposes, at this stage.
I recall one day in Nijmegen when we were in the greenhouse with all the tanks of Coy Carp at different ages….and Nevil turned to me and said he wanted to breed a Coy Carp like the Japanese flag …all white with a red sun in the center….at first I thought he was pulling my leg but he was deadly serious. When I asked why the Japanese Flag…he said that after visiting auction sites and breeding sites the highest value for Coy Carp came from Japan, where they value such fish…and would pay 25000 Euros for a fish like that….so I realized then and there this fish story was going to be an experience. Nevil`s persistence and determination edged him forward …his insatiable reading and devouring of facts and beginning at the highest genetic level possible, was always something important for him. He would locate the best or best known breeder for any of his projects and begin there.
In these days without science on our side we had to trust our own intuition and peers critics. The small clique of people we interacted with included people such as Robert Clark, George Cervantes, Ed Rosenthal, Mischka, Mila, Eagle Bill, Dave Watson, Ben Dronkers, Simone from Serious and so forth….all now people of substance in this flourishing industry.
In the 1980s while I was traveling around Asia/ South America and at University, Nevil open the first Seedbank ever to exist for Cannabis Seed…The Seed Bank. Nevil convinced the Dutch authorities to help him change from drug dependence to businessman and he pioneered the beginning of this evolutionary step in Cannabis Seed commercialism. Like Howard, Nevil was a charismatic professional in a chosen line of work that was unique and cutting edge for that time.
The 1990s was what I call the golden years of Holland, and in this time Nevil and I teamed up and we produced a lot of strains that set standards high in all niches of Cannabis. We were able to use the platform of the coffee shops to release these wares which included the Widow family, Haze family, NL5 series,G13 series, Skunk and Afghan hybrids and so forth….basically we set up many of the building blocks for modern day Cannabis strains.
Cloning changed the game for us and the future of all plant strains. Being in Holland with the mixture of high tech agricultural machinery and techniques added to the café society and lay-back-all-is-possible attitude was the setting of the time…We were young, free spirited and loved Cannabis and its diversity to a point we were all pushing each other to come up with something stronger and more aromatic than the previous…till we reached knock out point with THC strains. We won so many awards in these times and created a following and a new generation of avid breeders of Cannabis…world-wide.
Due to the lack of science in that decade, these strains we successfully introduced each year in the High Time Cannabis Cup via Coffee shops and came out of trial and error and our own opinions of what was worthy to breed with and what was in demand. These strains were a combination of work passed down to us from different corners of the world and from extremely dedicated people who spent their lives delving into finding the Holy Grail of Cannabis.
Funnily, both Nevil and I were Australians and Aquarians from opposite sides of the continent that both ended up in Holland doing what is still considered an illegal job in Australia to this day? But in Europe, USA and the rest of the world we became well known for the work we did and do in Cannabis. We needed to leave Australia to do what we did and do and this always bothered us both…and probably always harped on our subconscious. It was the point of not being understood and appreciated for doing a good job on something before its time, but the drive was stronger to achieve a goal than to explain, so in the 90s it was the freedom of Holland that won our hearts.
Nevil, Howard and I all shared traveling to faraway places to adventure into the unknown, meet extreme people and be given responsibilities most would turn their toes up to but we somehow managed to turn these events into positive advancements in all walks of life. We all shared unspoken mutual respect for each other and what we all did and achieved. It remained understated and calm within our group and we were all happy to create new things or feelings or moods not driven by only the money aspect but moreso by the true meaning to make something that never existed before…money always came when we hit that completely, and we all together and individually hit it on several occasions.
There was an unglamorous side to our work and we all passed through this. Nevil being the first to send seed worldwide created invisible enemies blinded by envy and motivated by greed and it took a toll on him over time. While Nevil got on with projects and tried to put the negative past behind him and focus on the positive future there were times when he fell into depression and suffered silently. He became reclusive on a few occasions, one being after the jail time in Australia in 1990 and the other in 2005 after finishing all his ties with Holland business…but he never stopped working.
Nevil had a few children with several partners over his life and he did his best to try and be a long distance father. I believe the distance eventually lead him back to Australia to be close to his family as he grew disenchanted with people and the industry in Europe.
When in 2007 I created the CBD crew and made the decision to go forward in to the medical side of Cannabis along with Howard, Nevil declined the offer and preferred to remain in Australia and work quietly on some breeding projects he never was able to conclude due to his illness. I have his old seed, his plants and his notes and in time will find people to pass things on to, as there is only so much time we all have on Earth that is the limiting factor.
Nevil loved the motto for Mr Nice Seed Bank, More Plants less People as he also chose some disappointing partners early on in his working life. Plants could always be relied upon, people less.
Nevil was exchanging seed with Dave Watson early on with skunk and Haze projects, and when they finished their projects together there was conflicting stories that arose from gossiping stoners…but no one should be too quick to believe anything as it was a different time. What Nevil and I always agreed on was that no matter what the story is, proof is in the seed and this will be the judge, ultimately for those who use our seeds.
It is not often to find people in your life that you look up to and feel equal in all respects to…but I can say I had the honor of two such gentlemen, Howard and Nevil, both very different people, but both wonderful professionals in an unprofessional world.
Nevil was a pioneer and forged a path many followed with love and passion to this day. He was my friend and confident and I will miss him and his unique prospective on the world of Cannabis. The world is a better place after having had the presence of Nevil Schoenmakers, a true pioneer and now legend in the world of Cannabis…RIP my dear friend….Shantibaba.
 
Hi. A different company, but imo a little gem from days gone by. Cheers, Guelaguetza
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edit: @dioecious - Thanks.

The booklet is really instructive. No idea if it was ever published in another language, as announced in the blurb.
The author Rudolf Forster is interesting; Supposedly a German from Bavaria who, via various detours,
published this booklet in cooperation with xyz in 1987 in order to later operate greenhouses for seed production in Aalsmeer.
Forster haunted the Dutch and German press a few times in 1992/1993 and
through his actions/network he must actually have had an enormous influence on the history of cannabis in Holland.
It's insanely difficult to find more information about the gentleman.
 
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Hi All

well unfortunately the story of the seed from Brazil that became the father of this union is nothing to really get excited about.

In 1987/88 I spent a year travelling through Peru, Ecuador, Columbia with my girlfriend. While in the Columbia section of the travel I got to Tyrone a mountain area near Santa Marta up north close to the Venezuela frontier...
We spent some time and a strong series of experiences with ethno botanics , namely San Pedro. A middle aged Brasilan who was living in the area became a good friend and we had alot of things in common. He was from the Amazon area in Brasil and had an IBL handed down for 3 generations of his family and in breed for quite alot of seasons in the same area by his people. It was foresure an IBL grown by the same people for years ...once I was able to grow it. This was the similarity of the Keralan IBL imo...
Both were not pure strains as they had been mixed over the years with the influences of selection depending upon the person who care taked them, but they had so many generations being grown by the same people in the same area they had taken on a new course and had become unique due to this fact.
So to the reason people see sativa phenotype in a packet of 15 seeds is very normal...in fact the girl I selected from the union of these two plants lines took well over 200 seeds trial and error. Not like the Super Silver Haze which took close to 1000 seeds trial and error and alot of years work for Nev.
But the most important thing that got the Widow down to 10 week flowering was to find one that expressed the indica phenotype in expression...taking a cut from the seed mother and flowering that which reduced the flowering time to 9-11 weeks. Also the plant does its thing the last 3 weeks so if you pull her early you will never see the real work it can do...
Many people over the years found a Widow that blasted them, but it was not every single seed that does this. It is also difficult to get all the elements correct straight up in a widow grow as the feeding varies depending upon the selected plant. So not making excuses to anyone as this strain has effected alot of growers positively but it is not as easy as Shit or Shark to get a very outstanding plant off the bat.

Really my Brazilan friend did not give it a name other than The One...his name to refer to it. So that is hopefully information to curb your inquisitiveness...but you must remember that the widow came from these two IBL and was made by over 2 years of inbreeding these two lines to find a male that inflenced all who it combined with...so here endeth the lesson according to me. By the way did any of the other people who claim to be widow breeders ever give a detailed account of the plants that lead to their so called version....because all I ever read is the description i wrote in 1995...regurgatated by people who never left their grow rooms and never sourced anything in their lives...but would be happy to be proven wrong!

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Now to clear up the story and myths that go around, due mainly to people in the industry(other seed companies) who are more interested in making money than giving information that is correct. Haze brothers worked on the Haze’s and they did get to Sam and Nevil(owner of THE SEEDBANK…and then Ben Dronkers retailed Nevils strains under the label of SENSI SEEDBANK after Nevil had some jail time in Australia .Nevil was the first Seed Bank or company to exist in Holland so his legendary strains such as Northern lights 5, Ultra skunk , Nl5 Haze, Early pearl , Early girl, Shiva Skunk….and so on became the basis for a lot of offspring seed companies that followed in the 90s.

In fact companies like Dutch passion and Nirvana began by copying Nevils seeds from the F1 seed…but most of them would never say so as they are Dutch business men who see dollars first and not genetics….Sam and Nevil use to work a bit on strains together but when it was revealed that Sam and his crew of Americans in Holland all were part of informants for the DEA in America on a radio program in Holland they split to the UK to do other things. Sam never started or owned a seed company so his claim to all the strains that became famous years ago are not really warranted. He did however do a lot of work on Skunk and shared some seed with Nevil, but as you know for breeding you cannot just take any plant and make a strain like Greenhouse does nowadays. I was working in Australia on varieties like Mullumbimby madness and Thai and Columbia strains of sativas, as well as a lot of original Afghan stock. When I came to Holland in 1990 with my seed stock I linked up with Nevil , and used Arjan’s coffeeshops to introduce strains of cannabis and a little later the seed versions, but we never gave any of the plants to him.Arjan just sold seed produced by Nevil and myself. I co founded the Greenhouse Seed Company with Arjan in 1994(unlike Arjan’s claim it began in 1985 from him alone…he was angry that I sold my half share to him and left in 1998 to Switzerland and to open Mr Nice Seedbank with Nevil and Howard…but I was and still am the sole owner of MNS). In 1995 I came out with the seed version of White widow, then White Rhino 1996 and White Shark 1997…el nino1998 , Himalayan gold and so on. Nevil and I co worked on some Haze strains during the early to mid 90s of which Super Silver Haze and Mango Haze were two strains that eventually came out of this work.The seed was sold under the Greenhouse Seed co label but Nevil held those plants and only sold the seed of these varieties as well as the weed version that won all those awards.So as to help Arjan sell the correct weed we set up our own independent grow rooms and produced those weeds and Arjan bought them all so as no other Dutch shop could compete. In those days the Greenhouse sold the correct weed and seed.But in 1998 when I won all the cups with Nevil(including Shantibaba’s Hash for best nederhash) I was givien a better offer by a Swiss group to set up a medical cannabis farm and distil oil…so I sold my share to Arjan and left. A lot of people were shocked as they thought we were a solid unit but actually Arjan was over the top already with his success and his ego was too much to listen to and considering the Swiss thing had unlimited possibility where as Holland was stuck at being glorified dope dealers….as it still is today. Medical was more my interest.

I took all my plants which made the seeds, especially my fathers and Nevil put all his plants with me so together we had a library of all genetics possible in the cannabis world. Nevil soon sold his part in one of the coffeeshops and had a big problem with Arjan too…but it took another year or two for them to split. Take a look at the High times Cannabis cup after 1998, so 1999 onwards….only while Nevil was there did they win with SSH, but that soon left with Nevil and Arjan even got caught cheating or trying to bribe people to win cup…so was disqualified one year.

A lot of stories exist about the Widow family and a lot of people had access to some of the female versions I left in Holland and soon began claiming to be the creature etc….but the original seed versions that won the first cup in 1995 came from my plants not anyone else’s. Till today we have all the plants in original form. Franco, the Italian working for Arjan now does not even know the original plants as he did not come on the scene till after I left. I have nothing against him at all but he is paid by Arjan andis part of that show so believes what ever is feed to him. The GHSco tried to get things going by buying some seed Nev and I had for sale from a guy in Holland during this time. The guy called me up and told me Arjan bought a few thousand euros of this seed and a year later came out with seed under the well known names he had used previously. The growers could not know this until they grew it out and considering a lot of people never grew it before they did not even know what they were looking at and still do not.So many seed companies use the names like White widow but the genetics are all different. I wrote out the true origins of the plant and everyone copied that so it looks like everyone is selling the same genetics but it is they are all selling a name that sells…nothing more.Ask Franco to show you a photo of the original parents that make the widow…he cannot as he has never seen them.The Ghsco linked up with others like Ingemar who claims to be the widow breeder but he is only a grower and he never came out with a seed version until after I made it in 1995. But all the facts have become mixed and people try to confuse the grower by claiming things that no one else can prove to be correct or wrong…as there are no rules in the seed game since all cannabis is actually not recognized in the official plant world as sub species due to it being drug related. So in actual fact no one owns nothing…even all the trademarked R after the names you see from various seed companies are all bullshit as they are not really able to protect any names as the plants do not officially exist…but that is another story.

In the late 90s I gave plants to Soma, and he began a seed company a year later too…mixing his skunks to my males. This has occurred many times to me just look at the Spanish seed companies and 10 years ago…none existed until I went there in 1995 and gave away 3 kilos of seed to growers via Canamo magazine….but that is another story too.

Now the female seed story saved a lot of seed companies who never really breed seed as you only need a F1 female and chemicals….no need for a male…..so go figure why companies like the Greenhouse or Dinafem etc…set up selling female seed…..the money the demand and not really needing skill with males are all prerequisites to make a female seed. It is therefore obvious to me why Arjan (who is a very marketing person nothing more) and Franco come out every year with a new name plant…they buy an original F1 seed and donk it with silver nitrates and there you have there products…but now adays there are so many doing it it is incredible. Even companies have called me to tell me they feminised a clone of Critical mass in spain and call it critical plus….but say nothing more than thanks. So actually I really do not care any longer about other companies and what they say. We at MNS sell the real versions that won the original awards and made the legends…nowadays it is all confused and everyone is going feminised…except MNS. We exist so people who like to breed will be able to with the original true breed plants that come from selection and natural collection from traveling around the world. As they say, an empty barrel makes a louder noise…and we are full.

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Just posted from Sam_Skunkman on another forum in response to Shanti's "setting the record straight"...Enjoy!

Originally Posted by Sam_Skunkman View Post
I just read this and while I respect Shanti in many cases in this article he is just plain wrong. ( if Shanti really wrote it?)

"Haze brothers worked on the Haze’s and they did get to Sam and Nevil(owner of THE SEEDBANK…and then Ben Dronkers retailed Nevils strains under the label of SENSI SEEDBANK after Nevil had some jail time in Australia .Nevil was the first Seed Bank or company to exist in Holland so his legendary strains such as Northern lights 5, Ultra skunk , Nl5 Haze, Early pearl , Early girl, Shiva Skunk….and so on became the basis for a lot of offspring seed companies that followed in the 90s."

The Haze Bros were my next door neighbors in Santa Cruz in the 70's, I am still in close contact. I have asked them both about Neville and neither has ever met him or supplied him with Original Haze seeds. I started Sacred Seeds 9 years earlier then Neville, and when I met Neville he promised me not to knock-off my seeds if he could buy them, I said it's fine if you make hybrids with my varieties if the other parent was not my variety. At the time he was selling imported bag seeds from coffee shops at .25 a pop. And trying to grow but with little success, Neville within one year or two was knocking off all my varieties that I brought to him, indoors under lights, like Skunk #1 Original Haze, Early Girl, Early Pearl, and a whole lot more, none were originally bred by Neville, even Northern Lights was bred by someone in Washington state, not Neville. The varieties listed did become the basis for Neville and as stated none were originally bred by Neville.

"Sam and Nevil use to work a bit on strains together"

I never worked with Neville to develop any thing, I did not really trust him. And I was right. He lied to get what he wanted and then ran with the ball.

"but when it was revealed that Sam and his crew of Americans in Holland all were part of informants for the DEA in America on a radio program in Holland they split to the UK to do other things.

I never split to the UK I have lived in the same house in Amsterdam for the last 25 years. As for me being an informer for the DEA, either show me proof, please list a single person I ever informed on or just shut up, you are being used by Neville to cover his own misdeeds. I have never helped any police, period.
But like being accused of being a chid molester it is a charge that causes some people to lose all common sense and just lash out at the accused guilty or not.

"Sam never started or owned a seed company so his claim to all the strains that became famous years ago are not really warranted. He did however do a lot of work on Skunk and shared some seed with Nevil, but as you know for breeding you cannot just take any plant and make a strain like Greenhouse does nowadays."

I never started or owned any seed company? What a fucking joke, I started the worlds first seed company Sacred Seeds, in California in 1976. I still have all the original packages and seed catalogs from then. Yeah I did a little work with Skunk #1, like creating it from scratch, a stable hybrid of Indica and Sativa that breed true.
And I did not share seed with Neville, I sold it to him, with a promise from Neville that he would not knock off my varieties, which he did almost immediately.
To give Neville his due he did start selling seeds and posting seeds to anyone anywhere, something I was afraid to do because of my fear of the American justice system, that did catch Neville.

"When I came to Holland in 1990 with my seed stock I linked up with Nevil "

And this is why you have no idea what happened before 1990.

Neville also sold all my varieties like Skunk #1, Original Haze, and another dozen of my varieties that I developed or helped develop and had permission from the breeders to run with like the Original Haze, to Ben Dronkers of Sinsi Seeds, for a reported million, including Cannabis Castle.

About the only thing that Shanti and I agree on is feminized seed, I don't like it and have never sold one. As for all the rest, Shanti was not there and is getting his truth from Neville, whom I know is a liar, cheat and thief. I was there and am speaking the truth. I have no ax to grind, to me it is all just water under the bridge, but I don't like people spouting revisionist history like it was gospel truth. Shanti maybe you need to stick to after 1990 when you showed up on the scene, then I believe what you have to say, but brother you have zero idea of the real truth of what happened between me and Neville as only me Neville and RCC were there.
I though you liked and believed RCC, ask him.
I don't blame Shanti that much Neville is a slippery guy that has fooled a lot of people in the past, me, Ben, Shanti and a whole lot of others.
The best way to remember him is as the first to ship seeds anywhere in the world for that even I liked him, as I was too chicken or too smart to do so.
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Hi All

Well it seems now that every hair of the haze thread is being scrutinized, possibly more than it is worth but so be it.

As I stated since the beginning of being involved in the internet forums, I was not in the presence physically at the time all this was supposed to be going down.I worked closely with Nevil for a long and successful time and we spent alot of time chatting while we watched plants grow.I preferred Mango Haze and Nev preferred SSH...but it did not detract from the genetics we worked with.

The question that should be asked to those who believe I erroneously stated information is , why would i try to get Nevil back to work or online at a forum if I told such a story.Would it not let oil come to the top of the water no matter what? The time most of you all talk about no one here was more than a teenager (bar a few), and the stuff the legends were based on namely the cup winners were all from a later date with established seed parents...irrelevant to the hypothesis most involved themselves in. I quoted from memory of those times with Nevil and the lengthy discussions and numerous plants we viewed and smoked...but i do not feel i told anything wrong as it was told to me at that stage.

I am still one of the only breeders doing selection and breeding to this day while most went off into commerce. I do not need to do this any longer, but i choose to bring such strains and forums to those who wish to use them and chat. So in all honesty, i am still friends with Sam , Rob, Nevil , Ben...and so forth and the stories you all fantasize about are history now.

In Australia there is a saying,` you are only as good as your last game!`

So since I felt all of this story was important enough to reveal with genetic material in stock to back it up consistently for the past 20+ years...I do find it strange that words even matter anymore. But to those who feel the story and legends are more important than the seed on the market, then go get your material from people who you feel you believe more or trust more or....
 
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Hi All

As far as i am concerned we at MNS and CBD crew have never been busier, so if rumours are to go on I think it is wise to see where they originate from and for what reasons to be fair...however there are those who are only able to claw their way up or stay up at the expense of dishing others. Can be ex partners or someone who had an issue with irradiated seeds or so forth...but proof is in the seed and if we were selling knock offs like some others we would have to be in a female seed market to survive...which we are not nor even contemplating.
We certainly would not have all the major companies giving us their main mother plants to work on and for them to buy back the seed we make for them after it is tested....and so on.....so really rumours are just hollow sounds rarely with meat on the bone.
We are even resupplying several major seed brands with our regular strains as they wish to put them back on their menus and do not have male plants after being chemically inducing males for so long.
Best to keep haters on other sites and get on with the job of helping people and making sure people get the right things they ask for...all the best Sb
 
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