A very poor way to try and sell seeds imo?

QUOTE=Nevil;61673]Either Sensi directors authorised the release of the plant produced from a mating I had made prior to ending up in jail in 1990, or a person in a position of trust made private arrangements. The mating was NL5xHzC X SK1xHzC.
Sensi won a cup with this cutting. It was called "Jack Herer". The J.H. line of seeds had this plant as a mother.
Green House also won with this plant at the Cups. It was called Super Silver Haze. As GH never had this cutting, who knows what they are calling SSH.
In the '90s, a variety known as Diesel was making a name for itself. When I smoked it I knew instantly that this was exactly the same plant and they had a cutting. The early Diesel line of seeds would also have used this plant as a mother.
All 3 lines were made with different fathers at least and this was 20 years ago. One would assume that successive generations would all go in their own unique directions, presumably giving rise to any distinct differences today. The names have remained the same and all 3 lines gained their credibility from the exceptional qualities of the original cutting NL5HzC x SK1HzC.
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I found it

I mixed that somehow up with the more indica leaning thing

Sorry :-)
 
Diesel? As in NYC Diesel? That is an east coast cut of Chem Dog #4, also known as '91 ChemDawg. Completely different strain. Chem is an S1 seedling of the old DogBud strain from Crusty Butt, Colorado. Which was from a proprietary strain grown locally here in either NorCal or Southern Oregon. Chem is said to be the mother of the "real bona fide original" OG Kush.
 
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Diesel? As in NYC Diesel? That is an east coast cut of Chem Dog #4, also known as '91 ChemDawg. Completely different strain. Chem is an S1 seedling of the old DogBud strain from Crusty Butt, Colorado. Which was from a proprietary strain grown locally here in either NorCal or Southern Oregon. Chem is said to be the mother of the "real bona fide original" OG Kush.
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G`day BS

Nah a cut of NL Hz nick named Diesel .

May the circle be unbroken .

C5 x Jack Herer .

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wish we would have tried to get more clarity on some of those finer details while we could have.

but sometimes youve read things a bunch of times and then you see a different angle to the interpretation you had previously...

i never noticed but nevil says right there, different selections of the males but the same pedigree.
but then there is slight contradictions or things that dont line up quite...
"entered this cut as jack herer at the cup" and Jh line of seeds would have this plant as the mother.
sometimes he slips in and out of talking about C5 and the quality that came from that, so im not sure if he really meant what he said there.
basically that the JH line of seeds is like a SSH x SH? as far as pedigree but the selections used is what makes them unique.
 
What's the story with Bushweed? Dude is selling Nevil and Kangavita's genetics for £159 for 10 seeds!! Last I knew Kanga was in jail. I mean I guess it's not all bad having them genetics live on, but it does seem like he's trying to get rich quick.

Of course, I don't know what's up with Kangavita I know I heard he might sell seeds just before the bust. I guess it's cool if Kangavita is at least getting something from it. But I ain't paying that kind of money, I don't give a fuck if he has the Holy Grail, someone will hand out clones. :D

https://www.realgorillaseeds.com/product-category/seed-boutique/bush-weed-seeds/
 
Kanga got out from jail last night. Maybe there is a behind the scenes going ons that we don't know about? I agree though, I'm not paying that much for seeds, never agreed with overpriced seeds (like snowhigh) so won't be making exceptions for these either ;)
 
I would bet that Bushweed is helping finance Kanga, but that is only a feeling due to what their relationship appeared to be when I was following along more closely.
 
PlantManBee said:
I would bet that Bushweed is helping finance Kanga, but that is only a feeling due to what their relationship appeared to be when I was following along more closely.
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Unfortunately not it seems .

Originally Posted by Kanga View Post
Hi Everybody,

On my first free day I have to stand up and have my say.

I worked with Nev on the understanding that we do the genetics together and if anything was to be released that had my strains in it I was to be part of it...well we all know what happened there and please dont think I am doing this because Nev has gone, you can be sure I had my say to him while he was around.
Now I find Bushweed has gone and done the same thing.

I had my life ripped apart by getting busted, lost my home, everything and the worst part is I havent been able to do what I love for 6 years.
I have had to rebuild my life from scratch, with no help from anybody, not even the people who are selling my genetics.....They walked all over me, because I trusted them and their word.

I see some of you are glad to see the genetics released, but I can assure you they would have been thanks to some very good friends who have done the right thing by me and I know they will be reading this so I say again thank you all, it is people like you that make this world a better place.

To all of the people on here who have welcomed me back, thank you so much it means the world to me.

My plans at the moment are to keep working for the man and it is highly probable I am moving to Europe next year, where I will continue work with the medical side of things and also continue work with Sativa's.....thats about it for now I have had my bitch, so to all of you Happy Growing,

Peace and Love,

Kanga
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Nice, I kind of had a feeling it was something shady going on. Definitely looking forward to Kanga's work, as long as it's not that expensive. Definitely nice seeing he's finally out of prison and some of his friends held his genetics.

Definitely some bullshit Bushweed didn't help him out or nothing, something tells me his seed company is going to die when Kangavita starts selling seeds.
 
Jesus 6 years is a long stretch for weed. Pedo would be out in 2 and a rapist inside 5. No wonder oz is so fucked 😁
 
As I predicted above in this thread, synthetic cannabinoid production using yeast is ramping up, and on a very large scale. Even faster than I thought it would. Legal weed takes a giant step sideways in Canada. Like it or not, here it comes...


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As previously announced, Cronos Group has entered into a partnership with Ginkgo Bioworks, Inc. (“Ginkgo”) to produce cultured cannabinoids. Research and development under this partnership is progressing, and as associated milestones are hit, this new facility is expected to provide Cronos Group with the ability to produce cultured cannabinoids at commercial scale with high-quality and high-purity.

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The acquisition is expected to close in the third quarter of 2019, subject to customary closing conditions. AFI is currently overseeing a wind-down of the facility, which is expected to continue through Fall 2019. During this time, Cronos Group will also begin aligning specifications for the equipment and manufacturing required for the production and downstream processing of cannabinoids. To support this work, Cronos Group expects a team of engineers, scientists, production and quality assurance personnel currently working at the facility to join Cronos Group.

Commercial production at the facility is subject to completion of the equipment alignment for cannabinoid based production, the receipt of the appropriate licenses from Health Canada for the production of cultured cannabinoids under the Cannabis Act (Canada) and the achievement of milestones under the Ginkgo partnership.
 
Todd

Yes your are right there. Todd McCormick calls Nevil every low thing he can think of, in private, while he cant say enough good about Sam/David/Sam . Very odd that the doesn't use Sam Selezny or David Watsons name to flog his crappy old haze seeds. Hope every one sees this vulturism! I challenge anyone to smoke that Sk#1 for a few weeks . Only that and nothing else. Its crap if anyone finds different feel free to chime in. Try the same with NL or pure Haze and you will find that its all crap. Nevil made them good and the rest copied.
I knew Nevil for 35 years
 
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http://pastebin.com/raw/rDUaWDYK

I guess people could read this and make up their own mind.
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Old news here. We have raked Watson over the coals on this site, including some gems posted by Nevil. I have never found any evidence that Sacred Seeds ever existed in Santa Cruz Co. I lived in north Monterey county at that time. Never heard of it or any bust there. I also looked for any evidence that Watson was ever busted in Santa Cruz, and found zip. I only came across one person that met Dave in Santa Cruz. He said it was at a weed buy in a park there. That was it. I hung out around Corrolitos and Prunedale then as well, and no one I know or knew ever heard of Haze the weed, or any Haze Bros. I knew a lot of dealers and early growers in that area then. Toddy McC says that the Haze Bros never existed, and there was some guy that bred Haze in Santa Cruz someplace. Maybe... I still think Haze was a landrace from Colombia and the whole breeding thing was a cooked up story by Watson to sell the beans to Nevil. Same with skunk, which was fairly common as bag weed there starting about 1978. Watson just took local bag weed seeds to Holland and passed them off as his own hybrids. Like Toddy McC, Watson also wrote for High Times as Selgnij, which is Jingles spelled backwards. Jingles was Watson's street name in Santa Cruz. There are many other aliases for him. Sado Sam, Sam Skunk, Sam Selezney, etc.
 
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Colombian Red = Haze

Well Big Sur I think your right on the mark there. I have always said that Haze was an old Red Colombian or Panama line . I spent a bit time in NorCal, and up in the small towns there are a lot of people with the name Hayes . I always figured it was one of these families that grew it and changed the spelling to protect the innocent. Just a theory of course.
 
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Well Big Sur I think your right on the mark there. I have always said that Haze was an old Red Colombian or Panama line . I spent a bit time in NorCal, and up in the small towns there are a lot of people with the name Hayes . I always figured it was one of these families that grew it and changed the spelling to protect the innocent. Just a theory of course.
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Never thought of it being named after anyone named Hayes. I know several people with the Hayes surname in the Silicon Valley. Haze weed has always been spelled Haze though. Like Purple Haze. And Watson said it was bred by the Haze Bros. in Corrolitos going back to 1969 in some of his posts. His claim was that it is a cross of a Mexican and Colombian. I think Haze is from a Colombian green strain from west Colombia. What Franco incorrectly called Limon Verde in the Strain Hunter vids. Verde Limon (inverted) is a rare strain from Mexico, and they got the country of origin wrong on that one. Anyway, what I think what Watson took to Europe was a strain I bought in 1982 or 83. I thought it was good Mexican sinsemilla, as it smoked like that. But the Mexican guys I got it from in Gilroy, just over Hecker Pass from Corrolitos, said it was Colombian weed. It was pricey, but worth it. I still have seeds from that bag of weed.
 
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