another cut wanted to bloom, no matter what i did, 24 hours of light, taking cuts ... much nitrogen, grow stimulants .... for me it was clear, that this dna info told the plant its over, only after 5 years , i say only bc i lived in the assumption, that plants could be hold for ever ... as you can read sometimes somewhere .. and those storys of old mothers (parental stock), it could be true, but with such expiriences it makes me wonder, if u need to select a particular cut without those time limiting factors, and that made me again think ... how many seeds are necessary to find an unlimited time dna info plant ...
too many questions open, which collide with my expiriences, tho im not saying its impossible
Yeah, I had a cut self destruct genetically after just a couple of years, like 5 or 6 clone generations, it started putting branches off in all different directions, and deformed leaves, it got so bad I had to trash it. That just happened to me once though.
Nevil said on another thread somewhere, that they have a time limit, and I think somewhere around 20 or thirty years is the upwards extreme of that limit. He said eventually they die.
Dearan and joshhazen
It be great to here more about your experience with the old nl5haze stock from the SB .Taste/aromas and what growth to look for in special keepers.
I think its interesting that the description in the 90 SB catalouge ,dry flowery perfume over a base of dark,leathery animal tones MMM MMM.Is very close to the description of hazeA from NEV but the reports of nl5haze on the net lean more toward his description of hazeC spice and sandlewood with my sacred frankincense trait being highly reported .
1luvbigherb
I had a friend describe my NL5Hz being like frankincense. I am not familiar with Frankincense, but I describe my NL5hz as being like a cross between insense and cognac. an intoxicating smell. Another friend of mine nicknamed it the Cognac bud. I agree, it had that kind of a smell.
My 5Hz pheno was very sativa, and had extremely dark green colored vegetation almost black, it also had around a 100 day budding cycle. It had the densist buds I have ever seen. They were pretty fat but not as fat as Gratephul's 5hz from shanti. Also the branching was totally insane on the original pheno that I had, like you could get giant donkey buds off of tertiary shoots. I have never seen a plant that branched like that, except maybe for some of its progeny.
I do not believe one second that there is Ruderalis in the NL#5 used by Nev for his Hz hybrids...
K.
Well I guess I will believe it when I hear it from Nevil or Shanti. I always thought that the NL5 was a clone that Nevil got from the Indian. And I always figured that when Nevil discussed NL5 he was referring to this clone, but I could be wrong.
Nevil does say in the following post that original NL5Hz was a simple F1 cross between NL5 and Haze male, when asked the following by Johnthepiper:
[/QUOTE]When a hybrid like NL5xHaze is created is it as simple as pollinating the NL5 with haze pollen one time,.[/QUOTE]
he responds with this answer:
Yes, all you have to do is find the right parents.
N.
source:
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/5-strain...ng-original-hhg-oakland-haze-3.html#post85521
At this point it is mere speculation.
