The Great Cheese Deception

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Al;right Dave strange eant it lol, did the guy in the pick have anything to do with exodus do you know ?
 
Its easy peasy to tell a cheese plant...it stinks vegging up, even when its only a few weeks old!!
 
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Its easy peasy to tell a cheese plant...it stinks vegging up, even when its only a few weeks old!!

Yup, shit nearly got me bust twice, never grown it again since.

jesse said:
Below is another picture of a supposed UK Cheese variety, notice that it looks different than all of the others, including the original. However, if there was going to be a fake impostor UK Cheese, this would be it. A beautiful plant, in fact it reminds me of a plant selected out of a pack of MNS Shit by a member here known as True. An exceptional looking specimen, but of course obviously it varies a great deal from the original. But if we're going to include some ordinary looking suspect UK Cheese pictures, why not bring up some real nice ones as well? As I mentioned, I'm sure these numerous UK Cheese clones floating around are good. Much like with the many fake G13 varieties, there must have been a reason for somebody to clone them and keep them. But are they the original? Well its pretty obvious, but I started this thread for others to make up their own minds.

When I read this I feel a srtange mixture of amusement and annoyance.

First, it's just Jesse's warped brain making up what it thinks is the case based on nothing more than pics on the internet...

and secondly it's so inaccurate it's vaguely amusing.

'suspect Uk Cheese' my arse, that pic of rick's is the same Brightside cutting as everyone else had for over a decade before all the other imposter Cheeses turned up.

This thread is a waste of time and any English grower knows it, the arrogance of Jesse to write about something he clearly hasn't got a clue about is stunning...
 
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I've got a blue cheese that looks just like Joe King Park, and Herb's cheese pics. Not real potent, not great yield. But a nice happy, funny effect, slight rainbow aura visuals. Good stuff.

 
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I've got a blue cheese that looks just like Joe King Park, and Herb's cheese pics. Not real potent, not great yield. But a nice happy, funny effect, slight rainbow aura visuals. Good stuff.

From the high, sounds like the blueberry shines through.

There are lots of cuts that look skunky and similar to the cheese, but if you know the cheese well you can always identify it if you see the plant in the flesh. I've sat and discussed many online cheese pics with knowledgeable people over the years and one thing that makes trying to identify it from pics alone is that it can come out looking quite different in different grows, sometimes it's very foxtailed like ricks, other times it's spear-shaped but the underlying bud structure is always the same when you see the finished product.

Anyways, just saying, coming up with elaborate theories based on pics is ludicrous and you need to have seen, smoked and grown the cheese and a few variants of it to have a clear picture. Many people in the Uk have done exactly that and we aren't very confused about the matter, there is the original Exodus Cheese as spread by Brightside then there are a bunch of others that only appeared since about 2004, for a full decade before that there was only one Cheese.
 
ok ive never grown the official cheese cut , but in the last little while ive been re-reading this thread and many many others all over the net ,,,

a friend of my dad who has become my friend now that im grown has been growing skunk from when it actually was skunk , not the skunk of today that was done so to get the skunkiness out and fruitiness in

this skunk he grows still today was being grown in the very early 80's and verywell could have since the mid to late 70's , i met him in 81

but anyway from EVERYTHING im reading about cheese it sounds exactly like skunk grown back in the 80's and still being grown by some people today

everytime i sampled his buds and seen any of his plants growing i would have called them cheese if i was talking about it being now and not back then

ive read an aufull lot lately about cheese and honestly i would say it sounds exactly like the old skunk that breaders for some reason did not like and they bread out the cheasy (skunky) traits to make what is todays skunk#1

i honestly believe it would be close to impossible to find a decent cheese replica in todays skunk#1 but would be and is very common for the old timmers who are growing the skunk from the early 80's and continuing thier own seed stock just like my friend has and is continuing to do

like i said though , ive not grown the official cut so im no expert , just putting 2 and 2 together and it became very easy to identify the cheese as a very common pheno of the old skunk and not todays dissapointing skunk (jmo)

p.s. the old skunk was so stinky we wrapped some in plastic wrap (realy realy wrapped it), then tinfoil then triple bagged it with ziplock bags and then put into a coffee can , travelled from BC to Ontario which was a 3 day drive , unloaded the car upon arival then went to sleep , slept like babies for a good 12 hours because of the long drive , when we finally got up and after a couple hours desided to drive somewhere we got to the car and it STILL smelled like we had run over a skunk
 
Hi all :)
There are many elements to the cannabis seed industry that are similar to that of the lawless wild west of the 1800's. One parallel is the fact there are few, if any, systems of checks and balances in the industry. Unfortunately, it is all to common in our industry for a nice story to be written surrounding a variety, designed to entice the consumer into purchasing that particularle selection from the company, while the truth is very often far away from the written word of the description.

Since the start of this thread, and others designed around the same notion of providing the ordinary consumers with a glimpse of the truth behind the charades that plague the online cannabis community, I have noticed a shift in the community direction surrounding Cheese and other varieties. I have always advocated doing your research on anything before you make a purchase. Whether its a refrigerator or a seed purchase. And threads like this stand as sources for others to make up their own minds, not have others force feed them the standard 1, 2, 3 marketing schemes.
 
Exodus Cheese, the cut Brightside spread everywhere. It's just a pheno of late 80s skunk #1, some rave about it cos it stinks, I don't care for it at all.
 

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[FONT=&quot]Originally Posted by british_hempire [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Jesse, just drop it now, you're not making yourself look very clever here mate.[/FONT]
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This is a perfect example of what Ive already mentioned in this thread, people that for whatever reason have a stake in misleading others. Im offering anyone who reads this thread the entire picture, instead of a very limited one like the one you present British Hempire. And the only thing you can tell me is that Im wrong? Im not doing myself any favors, by making sure others have the complete picture? Now thats funny British Hempire, that you would want to limit the amount of information available too anyone who may be reading this thread.

Now take a good look at how many different Cheese plants have been posted in this thread, now do you have an explanation for that? It doesnt really need to be explained, the answer is fairly obvious.

The picture presented is the Original Cheese picture, first posted on Overgrow all these years ago now. Ive got no reason to mislead anyone, I only started this thread to help others make up their own minds. And its painfully obvious to anyone who reads this in the future that there are quite a few people who have different clones, all called UK Cheese. None of which look like the original. And every last one of you guys who have a UK Cheese clone, think you have the original. It doesnt seem to phase you in the least bit if your "real UK Cheese" looks different than Johnny down the streets UK Cheese.

Now if you dont like the fact Im presenting the entire picture for people, instead of your mess of fairy tales then ask yourself why is it you have a problem with the truth?[/FONT]
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Hi all,
Above is a small excerpt from this thread, vintage 2009. In a perfect example of just how easily we, the consumers, can be mislead, we see British Hempire above interjecting as if he is just another poster. Like you, or I...however who at the time suspected British Hempire may in fact be Big Buddha? Who, according to the description below, is among the first to offer Cheese in seed form? The guy selling the seeds is perpetuating the lie, to put more money in his pocket, by taking it out of yours! By offering you a bullshit product and using fake alias’s to convince you that your money should go to him?
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Big Buddha Cannabis Seeds

In a perfect and crystal clear example of why you should be very critical of anything you read on the internet, you have the seller of Cheese himself pretending to be an ordinary poster with no stake in the matter conveniently taking a position which is to the benefit of his seed sales. Attempting to cloud the overall body of information, and larger picture, with trolling designed to swing the direction of the thread away from the truth. Its original intent in the first place.

Had it not been discovered that British Hempire was in fact Big Buddha, how many of you would have given his opinion a little bit of respect? But how about now that you find out the seller of the seed, is wearing a mask and trolling the forum in order to make his company and product look better? That seem's a little shady to me, to say the least. What exactly is there to hide, that it is necassary to hide behind alias's and mislead your customers? Does this sound like the cornerstore of a legitimate seed company to you? Now how many other companies do the same thing, on forums just like this one and others, propping the seeds up under the guise of being an ordinary, independent poster? With the nature of the internet, who is behind the post you're reading can be anyone or anything. And all too often their only goal is to take your money. Not to give you a legitimate product based on a quality, tried and true product.

British Hempire is a member who has few, if any, documented grows who has been caught using a number of alias's in the past designed to perpetuate his cause. A member who has trolled me religiously for years, (Example 1) and god knows how many other handles he has and has used to do the same? Stoner-Gate is a term I coined when British Hempire was caught red handed at Icmag.com using alias handles, in order to attack hempy and defend his and others stance of pro feminization. At a website that makes huge money off of the feminized seed scam, there were numerous posters who all attacked hempy viciously, as he bravely stood up for what he believed to be wrong in feminized seeds, and ultimately hempy left the site due to their mess. And our beloved British Hempire was using fake forum names there, and here, to perpetuate his cause by deceiving others.

If you want to use seed from someone who has not even proven they can grow a plant from seed to harvest, be my guest. We are talking about a member who has lied to the community about being a trained journalist (Example 2) and someone who has used multiple handles at forums across the interent, again, with the intent to deceive others into believing a majority believe in his positions (Example 3).

And that is just what we are able to prove, who knows what else this con artist and psycho is guilty of?[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Example 1[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Example 3[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot]For some time now I have had to ignore his stalking me around the internet, attempting to trash me at any chance he and others could get, playing devils advocate to anything I post just to be contrary. All of this has been an amusing attempt to associate himself, someone with absolutely no credibility, with others who in fact have nothing but honest intentions in helping the community at large. British Hempire is someone who takes other peoples money, and misleads them into notions that are completely false, all via the pretence of deception. One common theme throughout several of British Hempires trolling attempts, has been his bringing this thread up over and over again. Something I always thought was interesting, and a bit strange? That is, until it was discovered that British Hempire is in fact Big Buddha. The guy who has helped sell fake U.K Cheese all over the world. [/FONT]


Originally posted by British Hempire


Jesse, your post is a load of bullshit and quite frankly, highly insulting to us UK folks who have known and worked with the Cheese cut for a long time. You quite clearly haven't got a clue what you're talking about and are merely making assumptions based on picstures you have seen on the net.

For the record, the Cheese cutting was discovered in 1989 by a fella called Mark living in the Chiltern Hills from a pack of Sensi Seeds Skunk #1. He passed it to the Exodus Collective in 1995 and they spread it further. Contrary to the myth, they didn't hand it out freely to everyone far and wide, they made a lot of people jump through hoops, but they did pass it out. A fella called Brightside is largely responsible for spreading it around in the early years of this decade, it was passed to the HGF coffeeshop in Amsterdam in 2003. Big Buddha is a charlatan, a fraud and a thief, but it is his release of Cheese seeds in 2005 that kicked off a lot of the hype. Unlike the US, the UK was never a place that placed much store in 'elite' cuttings and we didn't put much emphasis on names, we still don't really, this is why it is only in the last 5 years that the Cheese name has become widely discussed, if Buddha have never released those seeds the Cheese name would not have got so much steam behind it. There were and still are tons of better cuts in the UK, just they haven't been hyped so much, although The Blues is starting to catch up to Cheese in name value in the UK these days.

I really cannot stress enough how misguided and completely incorrect Jesse's post is, he's talking out of his arse completely, lives on another continent to where the Cheese story happened and doesn't know any of the people involved. I live in the UK, I know many of the people who have been involved in the Cheese story personally, met em many times and it just really annoys me that a idiot like Jesse can be so sure that he is right and everyone in the UK is wrong.

Jesse, you're a internet conspiracy nutter of the highest order and you just made yourself look truly ludicrous to all the UK people.
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Originally posted by British Hempire
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If pointing out the worst excesses of your behaviour is trolling then yeah, I'm a troll. You wrote a pile of crap about Cheese that was pure fantasy, I corrected you, that isn't trolling. I figured out how you work ages ago, you present an elaborate argument only partly based on fact but fleshed out with wild speculation and assumption then rather than try to defend your viewpoint you instead mock, ridicule and insult anyone who disagrees with you. Jesse, you're a joke and I suspect the way you keep dreaming up outlandish conspiracies is a clear symptom of some mental problem.
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Originally posted by British Hempire
That is none of your business. If you had been paying attention you would have noticed that I have tried more than a couple of times to get along with hempy but he refuses to behave properly. I stand by my criticism of Jesse, that Cheese article he wrote is pure fiction and ever since I criticised him for it he's been rather nasty to me. It takes two to tango, if hempy and Jesse behaved in a way that made it possible to get along with them and have a rational debate then I would get along with them just fine. If you had been paying attention you will have seen that I have been very polite and concillatory toward hempy recently, particularly in the debate about Panama Red. My words fell on deaf ears and he wasn't interested in debating without being rude. In Jesse's case, he was completely wrong about Cheese but won't admit it. I admitted when I was wrong therefore the ball's in his court.
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How ironic is it, that his constant trolling and bringing up this very thread leads to further proving my original point all along? That there are those who are pushing fake U.K Cheese varieties, in an effort to make a name for themselves, while deceiving others into believing they have something that it is not. That there are those who will go to great lengths, including creating multiple accounts at websites, just to convince you of his story in order to take your money and run to the bank with it. You mention conspiracies British Hempire, what exactly do think you’re doing by attempting to mislead the public by using alias accounts? What is your goal in creating different accounts to push your agenda? It is clearly an effort to deceive, a money making scheme, something I have pointed out time and time again on these forums. Only to have the very same people I am attempting to help scuff at the notion people will actually attempt to deceive them lol. Sad state of affairs our community is in, and has been in for some time.

Originally posted by British Hempire
I've got more reason than most to not like Jesse and hempy, having been their whipping boy more than once, but even I don't approve of this thread.

Better if it was closed and forgotten imho.

Worst of all, it's pointless because these two have behaved the same way for years and aren't going to change.

So we just gotta put up with em best we can, sad to say.

If everyone chose to ignore them when they start with their crappy attitudes then that would go a long way to curtailing any negative effect on the community they can have.

I mean, there is an ignore list, you aren't forced to read their drivel if you chose to ignore them.
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Post such as these above have always been amusing to me, as British Hempire attempts to paint himself the victim. But as we can see from Example 1, that is anything but the case. We are talking about someone who actively seeks out to cause trouble, but once it starts to swing back in his direction, he runs to Admini and Shanti to have threads closed and pretends to be the sheep, instead of the wolf.

And how can one forget the other jewels you’ve been responsible for British Hempire? Such as your BOEL fantasy’s in relation to the Haze (Example 4), and your retarded idea that I stole your Haze article (Example 5)? All of your claims of which, were flat out busted once examined.

Example 4
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Example 5
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So in closing, I have demonstrated that British Hempire will attempt to hide behind alias’s on the forums, taking advantage of the anonymity the internet offers, to take our money, as consumers by attempting to cloud the truth from the public view. I have demonstrated British Hempire is a perpetual troll, who will stop at no lengths to deceive and humiliate and hurt others while attempting to push his own agendas and satisfy his own lack of self esteem issues. I have demonstrated that British Hempire is a liar, a fraud, a troll and a cancer to our community on par with the likes of The Three Little Birds. Great company to be in right there!
 
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Yeah, whatever, doesn't alter the fact you wrote a load of crap about the Cheese, have you ever even seen the Cheese cutting? Have you even been to the UK and met anyone who has grown it?

You should just admit you wrote a piece of fiction about the Cheese and be done with it.

I didn't bother reading all your drivel but are you accusing me of being the sam person as Big Buddha?

That's absolutely farcical and can easily be shown to be so by a large number of growers in the UK and Holland, quite a few are members here.

If anyone really believes I am big buddha then PM me and I'll quickly dispell that little myth.

Jesse, what the hell is wrong with you that you keep dreaming up these crazy conspiracies? 'Great Cheese Decption', 'British Hempire is Big Buddha', seriously, you need to see a psychiatrist sharpish!
 
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Jesse, you have made a serious and groundless accusation here:

Jesse said:
Had it not been discovered that British Hempire was in fact Big Buddha

Discovered by who? What evidence do you have for this?

Come on you crazy fuck, the gloves are off now, you can't go and make a serious allegation like that without some pretty solid proof without being made to look like a stupid fuck rather easily.

What are you going to do when I conclusively prove this is a crazy allegation you just pulled out of thin air?

Seriously, some sanction should be taken against you for making stupid allegations like this against people.

jesse said:
British Hempire is a member who has few, if any, documented grows

What? How stupid do you sound when you say things as stupid as this. I could fill a page with links to my threads at various sites, I have pictures to prove I've grown a ton of plants, this is just a stupid statement that takes all of a minute to prove utterly wrong.

Current active grow logs of plants growing right now:

BubbleJack (Jack Herer x Bubblegum, bred by me)
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/5-strain-base/5994-bubble-jack.html

Purple Thai (Purple Afghan x Thai, bred by me)
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/5-strain-base/5884-purple-thai.html

Colombian Gold
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/14-indoor/5690-colombian-gold.html

Super Silver Haze & Super Lemon Haze
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/super-silver-haze/6415-super-hazes-lemon-silver.html

Medicine Man
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/medicine-man/5906-medicine-man-clone-coco.html


Miscellaneous links to old grows:

Blueberry x Zamal/Haze:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1414332&postcount=2547
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1465429&postcount=2731

Actual Sativa
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1437041&postcount=2596
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1437041&postcount=2749

Trainwreck
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1465245&postcount=2717
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1465245&postcount=2837

Zamal x Nevil's Haze
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1465245&postcount=2726

Thai
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1465245&postcount=2855
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1465245&postcount=2980
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1465245&postcount=3080

jesse said:
If you want to use seed from someone who has not even proven they can grow a plant from seed to harvest, be my guest.

What? That's laughable, I've posted dozens of grow threads over the years, if you bothered to even look at some of my threads on this site you could see proof you were wrong. I'm not selling seeds so this entire statement is pure bullshit.

jesse said:
We are talking about a member who has lied to the community about being a trained journalist (Example 2)

More bullshit, classic case of twisting my words, as I have stated before, I have a media degree where I specialised in journalism, I have worked for a newspaper but not as a reporter. If this is some underhand attempt to get me to post my credentials you can kiss my arse, I will show a picture of my degree with name blurred to anyone who requires proof via PM.

jesse said:
and someone who has used multiple handles at forums across the interent, again, with the intent to deceive others into believing a majority believe in his positions (Example 3).

You don't half bang on about nothing, how many handles at how many sites? Simple fact of the matter is I've had two handles apart from the several I had at icmag and everyone knows I was banned a few times at icmag simply because I was made a mod at thcfarmer.

For the record, and most people know this, I first signed up to overgrow in November 2003 as big_buddha, about 6 months after that I started getting PMs asking me about Cheese seeds, I explained I wasn't that Big Buddha, that was the first I'd ever heard of the other one. Only other sites I was a member at were hg420, freecannabis.com and cannaseedcollective. All three are gone but the third is reincarnated as mediseedcollective and one of the prime figures there is Pindulinka who is a member here, knows Shanti personally and can also vouch for the fact I'm not the same guy as the the Big Buddha with the Cheese seeds.

Oh, worst of all, Shanti knows full well I'm not the same person as Big Buddha because he's met both of us, in fact, he met both of us on the same day at the UK Hemp Expo in Telford, Big Buddha had a stall there.

I chose the name British_Hempire when I signed up at icmag after overgrow went down, I've been british_hempire here and at breedbay.co.uk, apart from th that the only case of multiple handles is at icmag and I'm far from the only one who's done that at gypsy's site and there's no underhand reason for it other than whenever they realised who I was they banned me and I liked keeping in touch wih friends who aren't members at other sites.

Anyways, I want to know what Jesse is going to say when I prove I'm not Big Buddha, it's a serious allegation and completely false.

Jesse said:
British Hempire attempts to paint himself the victim

Well some things I am a victim of recently include these ludicrous allegations by you, disgraceful racism taunts from kashrocks and childish name calling from hempy, so if pointing out you three have some kind of vendetta going against me is 'painting myself as a victim' then I guess I am. I'm painting a fairly accurate picture though.
 
Here's a video of Big Buddha he posted on his website:

http://www.youtube.com/v/U3VDJG92mJU&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3

Sadly there aren't any youtube videos of me (that I know of, lol) but I can assure you I'm not of Chinese descent like Buddha...

Anyways, take note of Buddha's voice, I'm attending the opening of a new headshop tomorrow, owner is a good friend, he's also friends with Buddha so I'll try to get him on the phone and record us laughing at Jesse.

Shame Buddha lives 300 miles away otherwise I'd pop round and take a pic of us together...
 
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Elmer Bud,
Its most interesting how after Hempy and myself disassociated ourselves with you, due to your actions, that you now troll both of us. You were all about being our friends, and chatting, until you betrayed our confidence and you were asked to stop contacting us. They say, hell have no fury like a woman scorned...


Originally posted by Elmer
Would you mind posting it please as I have grown GHS Cheese fems ,and though they were a fine smoke I`m sure SHIT or NORDLE will surpass it .
And if British Hempire is the creator of those seeds I would like to say thank you .


Originally posted by Elmer
When I 1st investigated seeds on the Net I was bombarded with options . Arjan `s You Tube videoes got my attention .And I purchased 2 strains from GHS [Cheese and Bubba Kush ] .
In hindsight I was duped
.but ignorance was blissful till I found MNS .

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See, this is how Jesse works - disagree with him and he attacks you and will eventually made ludicrous allegations against you.

All that is happening here is Elmer has friends who know Buddha so he knows Jesse is spewing shite when he says I'm Buddha.

Come on Jesse, what are you going to do when we prove you wrong on this?

Wouldn't that be a battleship-sized hole in your credibility?
 
Here's a video of Big Buddha he posted on his website:

http://www.youtube.com/v/U3VDJG92mJU&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3

Sadly there aren't any youtube videos of me (that I know of, lol) but I can assure you I'm not of Chinese descent like Buddha...

Anyways, take note of Buddha's voice, I'm attending the opening of a new headshop tomorrow, owner is a good friend, he's also friends with Buddha so I'll try to get him on the phone and record us laughing at Jesse.

Shame Buddha lives 300 miles away otherwise I'd pop round and take a pic of us together...

British Hempire,
I find it most interesting that you did not deny this first thing, nor did you deny it when Kashgari called you out on it. Also interesting that you have allowed others, such as Pindulinka, to associate yourself with Big Buddha. Whether you are not, is of no concern to me, what is of concern is what kind of bitch you are and how much trolling you do.

Date: 2007 – reconstructed grow report from old site
Strain: Santa Marta Colombian gold landrace
Judge: Moi
Breeder: Big Buddha aka. British Hempire
Grower: Pindulinka @ MSC
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/7-plants...bian-gold-british-hempire-smoke-rep-pics.html

Date: 2007 – reconstructed grow report from old site
Strain: Santa Marta Colombian gold landrace
Judge: Moi
Breeder: Big Buddha aka. British Hempire
Grower: Pindulinka @ MSC
Santa Marta Colombian gold - British hempire - TreatingYourself.COM Online Community

If you are not Big Buddha, I apologize. However considering you have left these accusations rest when they are to your benefit, but deny them once used against you is interesting... and the fact you have absolutely no credility as established above, I am not sure how far your word goes. Absolutely nowhere with me thats for sure.
 
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See, this is how Jesse works - disagree with him and he attacks you

Nice try, you pathetic little bitch. But when Elmer starts insultings others, all cards are off the table. Leave it to you to attempt to paint me as being in the wrong, for making sure everyone knows my side to what is wedged up Elmer' ass. The guy is untrustworthy as they come, and just like you, is not worth his weight in salt.


Come on Jesse, what are you going to do when we prove you wrong on this?

If you're idea of proving me wrong is denying it, and having one of your friends back you up, then have at it Perry Mason.

If you are not Big Buddha, I have apologized, but given reason as to why I believe this to be the case. However none of that negates the other points in my post, which you are clearly attempting to avoid responsibility for. You are a trolling little bitch British Hempire.
 
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Just fuck off Jesse, too late to apologise, your true colours are now clear for all to see, you fabricate 'facts' about me and write fiction about Cheese, if those examples are anything to go by all your writings can be piled up into one big heap and labelled 'bullshit' because it's clear you're not above making things up.

Onto the ignore list you go you sad little sack of shite.
 
Just fuck off Jesse, too late to apologise, your true colours are now clear for all to see, you fabricate 'facts' about me and write fiction about Cheese, if those examples are anything to go by all your writings can be piled up into one big heap and labelled 'bullshit' because it's clear you're not above making things up.

Onto the ignore list you go you sad little sack of shite.


Oh, you're going to do me a favor now and stop trolling me? Wonderful....

Fact is, you've already put me on ignore, after ass reaming you previously and you still continued to troll while I ignored you all the way. But your latest attacks, unprovoked in this thread, have got my attention.

Now you dont want to play? Strange, one would think you would be rejoycing in the fact I was wrong about your association with Big Buddha Seeds? You're not trying to hide something now are you? lol

Keep me on ignore, do not troll me anymore. If you do, I will make sure each and everytime people know what kind of cancer you are to this community. Try me you little bitch...
 
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