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pmsl jesse the internet bin raker does it again
pmsl jesse bitching about british hempire using numerous i.d's, when jesse trawls other sites looking for angles or misinformation to attack people with he doesn't do it under the alias 'jesse' or 'bidplucker', he used 'outlawgrower' for his northern lights attack on sensi and it's a safe bet that he has and continues to use other i.d's
pmsl jesse bitching about british hempire using numerous i.d's, when jesse trawls other sites looking for angles or misinformation to attack people with he doesn't do it under the alias 'jesse' or 'bidplucker', he used 'outlawgrower' for his northern lights attack on sensi and it's a safe bet that he has and continues to use other i.d's
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JessE
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Elmer,
Do not call me bro, because I can assure you that you're not my brother or a friend. You are trash in my eyes, filth. Its funny you say bringing personal conflicts up, what exactly do you think you're doing by trolling me? You were swinging from my balls until I found out that you're not someone who should be trusted with any kind of information what so ever. You come to my threads and talk shit, not the other way around.
And all after I told you, stop contacting me. If you werent such a bitch, I wouldnt have told you to leave me alone. Now what do we see from you? This...
You will not be bullied? Who is bullying you, genius? I told you to stay away from me! I dont go to your threads, you come to mine! You will not be bullied? What you're doing is pathetic Elmer.
You can not handle rejection, so now you follow hempy and myself around and troll us. Why? Because you betrayed our confidence, and now nobody wants anything to do with you. And you say you wont be bullied?
You really are not that intelligent are you? I feel for you kid. However if you want to follow me around, and talk shit, so be it. If that makes you feel better, if your soul feels better after betraying my confidence, that you will now attempt to play devils advocate on anything I post. So be it...
Have at it champ, you're not the first or the last.
You mentioned you could look Shantibaba in the eye, well if thats the case, you're a very dangerous man Elmer. As a man who has no shame, is capable of a great deal.
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And that my friends, is the cold hard truth of the matter.
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JessE
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Hi all 
There was a time on the online cannabis forums, which were much larger than any cannabis forum today, with a great deal of knowledgeable growers, where the variety known today as Cheese simply did not exist. There was absolutely no mention of it, and as I have previously demonstrated, it has a very limited history which can be documented. Cheese is truly the by-product of the elite clone hype that unfolded at websites such as Icmag.com.
For many years, members of websites just like you and myself, all of us, watched as select individuals posted fairly nice pictures of plants, and mountains of posts followed which from outside appearances provided a picture that these select varieties were the next big thing. The next White Widow, the next Northern Lights. These new varieties? Strains few, if anybody, had heard of prior to their introduction online. Bubba Kush, OG Kush, Chemdog, Sour Diesal etc.
So we’re talking about lines which had no merit on their own, prior to their introduction from seemingly out of nowhere! They just suddenly appeared, supposedly lol.
And the members with these new strains, were themselves as mysterious as the lines they brought with them. Members with no reputation, prior posting histories, nothing. And over night, they were super stars! The threads were suddenly beaming with customers, and all of this surely had the effect of convincing countless others that indeed, these were the strains to go after.
Most interesting however, is that all of this was occurring at the website(s) run by those who sell seeds! Go figure, right?
Below is a link where those new members who showed up out of nowhere, with no credibility of their own, with strains which nobody had heard of, were linked straight to the Administration of the Seed Sellers themselves.
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/6-breeders-support-information/1082-kush-3.html
It’s a pretty big coincidence new members with no credibility or prior posting histories show up out of nowhere, with strains nobody has ever heard of, and like the great B.I.G once said, ‘blow up like the world trade bomb center ‘ over night and can then be traced straight to the top of the seed selling administration!
This went on for years, not just a little while. And was clearly a marketing tool, propaganda, designed by the Administration of the website to sell more seeds. And you know what, I think it worked! Suddenly strains with no histories became the most sought after lines on those forums, and over night dozens of similarly named, but different varieties showed up. At one point, there were people offering big sums of money for clones which were unproven in any court other than the virtual court! All of this of course lead ordinary consumers, just after good seed with honest intentions, into traveling down the path of mystery via means of deceit. People were losing their minds to acquire some of these lines, only to find out their quality was no better than any other dutch based line available at the time. And in comparison to some of the real heavy weights, fairy dust compared to the real deals.
This is also around the same time feminized seeds really kicked off in popularity, because these elite clones seen on forums like Icmag were harder to obtain than the holy grail! Though everyone wanted them, from all appearances at least! What was the solution to satisfying the masses desire to obtain the elite cuts? Which were female only varieties? (How convenient). They offered the lines as feminized varieties, feminizing the strains and charging out ragous sums of money for the trash, hyped seed. And suddenly you had dozens of OG Kushes, soon Kush became a phenomena much like other varieties in the past. The White Widows, Northern Lights, G13s of the world. Where a popular name is given to good cannabis in order to move it as fast as possible in pursuit of the almighty dollar.
It was not long after, with everyone watching the hype go down and the mania that followed from some members that some of the children from the U.K in fact did start to feel left out. Enter the U.K Cheese, which for a long time had only been a picture of a strange plant from the UK. But over night, became the hero for those select few in the U.K to prop up as their own O.G Kush. Their own Sour Diesel, their own Bubba Kush. And much like with the other Kush varieties, it did not take long for many different versions of Cheese to appear either.
And the truth of the matter, the push to start marketing varieties from online persona’s over respected companies goes back to R.C at Heavens Stairway. Who for many years ran a website that was one of the main places to go to get seed. Much like with Vu-du today, or Dr. Chronic, long before them was Heavens Stairway. When I arrived online, the top dogs in Holland were getting the marketing nod and for good reason. But after the years passed, R.C and other seed vendors found out they could buy seed from online growers and sell it for the same price as the big boys in Hollands seeds, only paying the online growers far less than the professionals such as Paradise Seeds, The Flying Dutchmen etc. And thus many “breeders” today at websites such as Icmag found their way to the lime light, despite being no better growers or potsmen than many of you reading this right now. For some, truly a circumstance of being in the right place, at the right time. And they owe people like Gypsy, R.C everything for their spot as cannabis “breeders” today.
Cheese went from an after thought online, a picture of a variety that looked quite unusual but which otherwise drew little attention to a super star years later simply based off the elite clone hype which occurred at websites like Icmag, but not limited too. One of the first strain hypes on the online forums was Nirvana Blueberry. It was THE strain to acquire for some time, then after that illusion wore off, came Train Wreck. Soon Bubba and OG Kush. Then Chem dawg, Sour Diesel….the list goes on and on and the same schedule will play itself out for years to come as well.
There was a time on the online cannabis forums, which were much larger than any cannabis forum today, with a great deal of knowledgeable growers, where the variety known today as Cheese simply did not exist. There was absolutely no mention of it, and as I have previously demonstrated, it has a very limited history which can be documented. Cheese is truly the by-product of the elite clone hype that unfolded at websites such as Icmag.com.
For many years, members of websites just like you and myself, all of us, watched as select individuals posted fairly nice pictures of plants, and mountains of posts followed which from outside appearances provided a picture that these select varieties were the next big thing. The next White Widow, the next Northern Lights. These new varieties? Strains few, if anybody, had heard of prior to their introduction online. Bubba Kush, OG Kush, Chemdog, Sour Diesal etc.
So we’re talking about lines which had no merit on their own, prior to their introduction from seemingly out of nowhere! They just suddenly appeared, supposedly lol.
And the members with these new strains, were themselves as mysterious as the lines they brought with them. Members with no reputation, prior posting histories, nothing. And over night, they were super stars! The threads were suddenly beaming with customers, and all of this surely had the effect of convincing countless others that indeed, these were the strains to go after.
Most interesting however, is that all of this was occurring at the website(s) run by those who sell seeds! Go figure, right?
Below is a link where those new members who showed up out of nowhere, with no credibility of their own, with strains which nobody had heard of, were linked straight to the Administration of the Seed Sellers themselves.
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/6-breeders-support-information/1082-kush-3.html
It’s a pretty big coincidence new members with no credibility or prior posting histories show up out of nowhere, with strains nobody has ever heard of, and like the great B.I.G once said, ‘blow up like the world trade bomb center ‘ over night and can then be traced straight to the top of the seed selling administration!
This went on for years, not just a little while. And was clearly a marketing tool, propaganda, designed by the Administration of the website to sell more seeds. And you know what, I think it worked! Suddenly strains with no histories became the most sought after lines on those forums, and over night dozens of similarly named, but different varieties showed up. At one point, there were people offering big sums of money for clones which were unproven in any court other than the virtual court! All of this of course lead ordinary consumers, just after good seed with honest intentions, into traveling down the path of mystery via means of deceit. People were losing their minds to acquire some of these lines, only to find out their quality was no better than any other dutch based line available at the time. And in comparison to some of the real heavy weights, fairy dust compared to the real deals.
This is also around the same time feminized seeds really kicked off in popularity, because these elite clones seen on forums like Icmag were harder to obtain than the holy grail! Though everyone wanted them, from all appearances at least! What was the solution to satisfying the masses desire to obtain the elite cuts? Which were female only varieties? (How convenient). They offered the lines as feminized varieties, feminizing the strains and charging out ragous sums of money for the trash, hyped seed. And suddenly you had dozens of OG Kushes, soon Kush became a phenomena much like other varieties in the past. The White Widows, Northern Lights, G13s of the world. Where a popular name is given to good cannabis in order to move it as fast as possible in pursuit of the almighty dollar.
It was not long after, with everyone watching the hype go down and the mania that followed from some members that some of the children from the U.K in fact did start to feel left out. Enter the U.K Cheese, which for a long time had only been a picture of a strange plant from the UK. But over night, became the hero for those select few in the U.K to prop up as their own O.G Kush. Their own Sour Diesel, their own Bubba Kush. And much like with the other Kush varieties, it did not take long for many different versions of Cheese to appear either.
And the truth of the matter, the push to start marketing varieties from online persona’s over respected companies goes back to R.C at Heavens Stairway. Who for many years ran a website that was one of the main places to go to get seed. Much like with Vu-du today, or Dr. Chronic, long before them was Heavens Stairway. When I arrived online, the top dogs in Holland were getting the marketing nod and for good reason. But after the years passed, R.C and other seed vendors found out they could buy seed from online growers and sell it for the same price as the big boys in Hollands seeds, only paying the online growers far less than the professionals such as Paradise Seeds, The Flying Dutchmen etc. And thus many “breeders” today at websites such as Icmag found their way to the lime light, despite being no better growers or potsmen than many of you reading this right now. For some, truly a circumstance of being in the right place, at the right time. And they owe people like Gypsy, R.C everything for their spot as cannabis “breeders” today.
Cheese went from an after thought online, a picture of a variety that looked quite unusual but which otherwise drew little attention to a super star years later simply based off the elite clone hype which occurred at websites like Icmag, but not limited too. One of the first strain hypes on the online forums was Nirvana Blueberry. It was THE strain to acquire for some time, then after that illusion wore off, came Train Wreck. Soon Bubba and OG Kush. Then Chem dawg, Sour Diesel….the list goes on and on and the same schedule will play itself out for years to come as well.
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pindulinka
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Boyo, now yer pissing me off..
what are you up to jess, Im trying to find the point of this dumbass thread. Ill just change the channel, this allegation is absurd, hempire has helped dozens if not hundreds of med patients and whatever the reason he does not deserve.... you.
No hard feelings buddy but heres another person IN THE KNOW that is calling your sherlock imitation a FAILURE.
Please excuse me other members for becoming involved but as someone who knows the truth I would just rather my posts being read than re quoted in bold. I WAS TALKING ABOUT A THAI LANDMARK BH WAS USING AS AN AV.
He could have called himself reclining buddha as that would have been more exact.
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what are you up to jess, Im trying to find the point of this dumbass thread. Ill just change the channel, this allegation is absurd, hempire has helped dozens if not hundreds of med patients and whatever the reason he does not deserve.... you.
No hard feelings buddy but heres another person IN THE KNOW that is calling your sherlock imitation a FAILURE.
Please excuse me other members for becoming involved but as someone who knows the truth I would just rather my posts being read than re quoted in bold. I WAS TALKING ABOUT A THAI LANDMARK BH WAS USING AS AN AV.
He could have called himself reclining buddha as that would have been more exact.
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JessE
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Hi Pindu,
I am not particularly concerned if you're upset or not, you have confirmed British Hempire was calling himself Big Buddha and that in itself opens up a number of questions. You are free to turn the channel..
No hard feelings buddy but heres another person IN THE KNOW that is calling your sherlock imitation a FAILURE..
A failure, really? So the part where I called british hempire out for being big buddha, and you confirmed he was posting at a forum calling himself big buddha is a failure?
Not from my court, it looks like we're seeing just how deep this guys shananigans run.
So now that he calls himself someone whom he claims he is not, it is others fault for confusing the two? No, I dont think so.
And listen, you say no hard feelings but post enough towards me where I could easily come away thinking something else. I understand British Hempire sent you seeds, and you're happy to get something free. But that does not change his actions.
Good day to you sir
I am not particularly concerned if you're upset or not, you have confirmed British Hempire was calling himself Big Buddha and that in itself opens up a number of questions. You are free to turn the channel..
No hard feelings buddy but heres another person IN THE KNOW that is calling your sherlock imitation a FAILURE..
A failure, really? So the part where I called british hempire out for being big buddha, and you confirmed he was posting at a forum calling himself big buddha is a failure?
Not from my court, it looks like we're seeing just how deep this guys shananigans run.
So now that he calls himself someone whom he claims he is not, it is others fault for confusing the two? No, I dont think so.
And listen, you say no hard feelings but post enough towards me where I could easily come away thinking something else. I understand British Hempire sent you seeds, and you're happy to get something free. But that does not change his actions.
Good day to you sir
pindulinka
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Well as I said.. no point in continuing, I know who BH is.. question is who are you?
My site helps the sick, its helped quite a few. Those are the ones that deserve his gratitude and there are plenty of them.
who have you helped with this thread, arent you big buddha by any chance?
cheers
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My site helps the sick, its helped quite a few. Those are the ones that deserve his gratitude and there are plenty of them.
who have you helped with this thread, arent you big buddha by any chance?
cheers
P.
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coop
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here come's a pack of wha wha's
Jesse/Hempy how old are you fools? Either too old or too young, but the Fool part is more then correct.
Jesse/Hempy how old are you fools? Either too old or too young, but the Fool part is more then correct.
kashrocks
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G`day JessE
Keep up the good work on the exposure !
Your contributions to the disinformation in the Canna community is unparralleled ,PMSL !
Do yourself a favour stop now before you embarass yourself beyond repair .
Thanks for sharin
Elmer Bud .
G'day El,
C'mon b_h has posted more disinformations about cannabis and breeders than anyone on the entire internet...
His habit of using multiple handles without mentioning his real internet identity is quite disturbing to say the least and definitively meant to mix up things...so it seems quite natural that some members are now questionning his strange behavior.
Usually when members change of handle they try one way or another to make it clears who they are. For exemple when Kopite, Hempy or I changed our handle it was never to hide ourselves. We usually used our old handles to sign at the bottom of our posts.
B_h did not...because he was doing so in order to hide who he really was.
Which is so convenient when you post bs all over the net...lol
I am really considering to open a thread with all the fallacious claims he made since he began posting again on the mns board if his attitude and that of his followers does not change quick...
The ball is in their camp...
Peace.
K.
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keep on with the copy and pasting.
I love it, please upload any screen shots you rats have saved too.
I love it, please upload any screen shots you rats have saved too.
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keep on being those top notch members of the community but only in private.
hempy i would have no problem with you if you where'nt JessE's puppet, no one's ever questioned your ability to grow "thia" but you can't ever take a compliment only sling shit to others, so you get what you deserve.
And your boy JessE, loves getting published in magazines using some rag like the Daily News as a source, its a joke to this whole community. Much like this article and all the others.
You guys are afraid of books and real knowledge, and will discredit anyone who tries to say otherwise. If you guys did'nt sling shit you wouldnt continue to upload and quote old posts makng you look like fools. I mean come on man don't quote me from multiple posts calling you out on every jackass comment you made in the thead (i.e. lies and misinformation)
and continue to laugh about the "sport" maybe if you read some Burbank you would understand the concept.
hempy i would have no problem with you if you where'nt JessE's puppet, no one's ever questioned your ability to grow "thia" but you can't ever take a compliment only sling shit to others, so you get what you deserve.
And your boy JessE, loves getting published in magazines using some rag like the Daily News as a source, its a joke to this whole community. Much like this article and all the others.
You guys are afraid of books and real knowledge, and will discredit anyone who tries to say otherwise. If you guys did'nt sling shit you wouldnt continue to upload and quote old posts makng you look like fools. I mean come on man don't quote me from multiple posts calling you out on every jackass comment you made in the thead (i.e. lies and misinformation)
and continue to laugh about the "sport" maybe if you read some Burbank you would understand the concept.
After a quick read here, I just realised how grown up my 4yr old child is? She too can cut and paste.
You're all pathetic representitives of cannabis normalisation... Howard must be ashamed to be known as mr nice sometimes, if anyone ever associates him with this forum... What a joke... More members trying to expose each other... Tut tut..
BL
You're all pathetic representitives of cannabis normalisation... Howard must be ashamed to be known as mr nice sometimes, if anyone ever associates him with this forum... What a joke... More members trying to expose each other... Tut tut..
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kashrocks
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I know who BH is.. question is who are you?
My site helps the sick, its helped quite a few.
WTF ???
JessE is simply one of the oldest members on any MNS helpdesks past and present...if not the oldest
I can just think of another person who may have been here before him but I will not reveal his handle as he doesn't post nowadays...
But tell me Pin...
who are you here to ask an old time MNS member that question ?
EMWTK...
Peace.
K.
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hazyfontazy
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truth and lies !!!!
i think i oughta clear 1 or 2 things up here ,,,
1,,jesse u are inncorrect about the cheese ,its from luton ,brightside cut being the 1 we recognise as the original,he obtained it from haz monor and was just a sk1 ,thats the facts .
2,jesse u are correct about british hempire being bigbuddha ,,but the bh bb is not the cheese bb ,,bh used the handle bb before cheese bb came on the scene in weedworld mag ,,they do look very similiar though
i think i oughta clear 1 or 2 things up here ,,,
1,,jesse u are inncorrect about the cheese ,its from luton ,brightside cut being the 1 we recognise as the original,he obtained it from haz monor and was just a sk1 ,thats the facts .
2,jesse u are correct about british hempire being bigbuddha ,,but the bh bb is not the cheese bb ,,bh used the handle bb before cheese bb came on the scene in weedworld mag ,,they do look very similiar though
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pages and pages of posts, nearly all of it from somewhere else and used to defend an individual position? all of it contradictory? in spite of the rhetoric, i noted two seldom posters in the last several pages that actually have a thing or two to say and i ask all to take note.
mr. cheesehunter and mr. herbsman were spot on with my personal thoughts on cheese. their comments are further noteworthy because both are admitted experienced users of the cheese. lol. maybe the respective mothers would not agree? lol. proper cheese was difficult to obtain where i live so my dances with her followed distinctly different periods of time. but yes, she was far more than skunk. but more important, as these posters pointed out, it is not the same anymore. and coloration has grown darker as well. it still stinks, but not the same as the original i loved. degradation of the gene pool? i am sure many still hold the real deal. peace-biteme
mr. cheesehunter and mr. herbsman were spot on with my personal thoughts on cheese. their comments are further noteworthy because both are admitted experienced users of the cheese. lol. maybe the respective mothers would not agree? lol. proper cheese was difficult to obtain where i live so my dances with her followed distinctly different periods of time. but yes, she was far more than skunk. but more important, as these posters pointed out, it is not the same anymore. and coloration has grown darker as well. it still stinks, but not the same as the original i loved. degradation of the gene pool? i am sure many still hold the real deal. peace-biteme