The origins of Haze

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dude i'm not the one trying to get the Pulitzer. There's a reason everyone else called you a crackhead a few weeks ago. I don't really care anymore, If its any concern to any of you, he can keep my fucking money, and I'll buy my seeds elsewhere.

You got a fucking agenda like the rest of them.

If your research is so great, post your source info. And everyone can make up your mind.
Talking head like the rest of them

Coop,

Are you for real ???

You already erased a lot of your posts of yesterday leaving essentially the insults...

But now you also just erased your two posts that explained why you think Bubblegum was bred by Clarke.

WTF ?!?!

Peace.

K.
 
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The BSHW is supposedly a Sativa(ZP/ZPcross?) x Afghani (Holy Weed). Snow has a broad leaf indica pheno of BSHW as well. His example is the most extreme expression from sisters I have ever seen and it's such an old line. It's pheno's are all over the place and so are the SAGE pheno's.

The bud that I got my seed from was also sugary sweet like you said, Josh. Maybe the Afghani contributes to that.


I only mean to say that BSHW and Haze may share a close and common ancestor. IMO, the timeline, the distance, the phenos and the accounts make BSHW a good example in the research of California Haze.

Peace.

EDIT, I was typing this post while you were posting your post, BH. I've heard that story about Perry and the surfers but not about the loco. Good stuff.

Very interesting Cannatori... I know some of the folks that originated the Big Sur, and I can tell you right now, that the Big Sur Weed had major influence all over California, and particularly in the Emerald Triangle, especially Mendocino. Most of what I have seen in Big Sur has been sativa dominant sativa indica hybrids. Big Sur is the root, and Esalen was a major hub of what was to later become known as "The Hippie Movement".

I knew more than a couple of the original Psychedelic Rangers, and had the honor of turning them on to the original Seedbank NL5Hz, and let it suffice to say, that it left them speechless, one even accused me of lacing it with Angel Dust. So stunned were they by it that they openly admitted that they had never seen anything like it. Many of them were in their 60s and 70s when I was hanging with them like 15 years ago. I know some of them have passed on.

I think the Haze is another thing entirely. The haze brothers are a legend, that none of the heavy cats I know in Santa Cruz had ever heard of, so they must have been a very small very elite scene, isolated from the rest of the California scene, cause these folks I'm telling you about were dialed in, even in the 90s when I was hanging out with them.

The original cats who started it all, everything, they knew Timothy Leary, they were bringing in all the red label from Afghan, etc.
It all started down in Big Sur man... I told them about Nevil... It only took the Holland Haze to convince them, nobody had ever seen shit like that down in Big Sur, or Santa Cruz, or anywhere, for that matter. Of course everyone knew of the "Purple Haze", in Santa Cruz, that shit is old hat, but Nevil's 5Hz? Nobody had an inkling that shit like that could even exist.

If you taste and see the Big Sur you can tell that it is somehow related to so many of the old school California races, but the Haze? well it just seems to me like an entirely different animal.
 
I think the Haze is another thing entirely. The haze brothers are a legend, that none of the heavy cats I know in Santa Cruz had ever heard of, so they must have been a very small very elite scene, isolated from the rest of the California scene, cause these folks I'm telling you about were dialed in, even in the 90s when I was hanging out with them.

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Nice post Josh, the above quote does not surprise me in the least bit to read.
 
HOLY SHIT YOU AND HEMPY ARE THE HAZE BROS!!!!

enlighten us master.

This is why you have no journilstic integrity.
If you wrote a story about the origins of haze and did some reserach if would have been in four parts
  1. Owsley - Purple Haze
  2. California Haze
  3. New York Haze
  4. Nevil's Haze

count em 4 separate hazes. I can do i great job rehashing what i read on the internet too.
Coop...:cool:
 
Alright it took me a minute to gather my self.
OK this silly shit needs to stop...alot of the folks in here seem to think they are somehow special...well lets all agree we are all special in our own way.
None of you has had anything to do with the Progression of Haze or its Hybrids...cept maybe Nevil,and Sam...everyone else is working off their work.
Nevil and Sam got their Haze from the Haze Bros SEED
[READ IT B4 U SPOUT OFF}
Now stick to a positive attitude or you will see Shantibaba in here again...
and it won't be pretty.
Remember he has warned of closeing this site...and I'm certain that is precisely why we get all this Stupid immature conjecture from KIDS who are too young to KNOW ANYthing.
ASS/U/ME remember that,
a Master Chief Petty Officer taught it to me.
don't assume you know anything....for you will surely be proven wrong.


Wise UP...How the hell you gonna learn anything if you THINK you already know it all?

scorpion
 
And another thing...
Any of you real growers ever wonder why the mouthy know it all types NEVER have even one photo of a Marijuana Plant...is it just me or is that realy freaking strange...?
 
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And another thing...
Any of you real growers ever wonder why the mouthy know it all types NEVER have even one photo of a Marijuana Plant...is it just me or is that realy freaking strange...?

Since many of our senior members are leading by great example and being soo honest why don't you just call out names


I havnt seen many know it all or mouthy types without pics


Who might you refer to ?
 
Since many of our senior members are leading by great example and being soo honest why don't you just call out names


I havnt seen many know it all or mouthy types without pics


Who might you refer to ?
well biggy...just click on the gallery of anyone you wish to check...
 
well biggy...just click on the gallery of anyone you wish to check...

That doesnt make sense wat r you saying ,if you have a loaded gallery you have pics

i dont need to check anyone ,All the know it all mouthy ones have plenty of pics

i was hopin for a more direct response ,Soo we can get back to this very educational portion of this thread at MNS
 
it won't work biggy...Im much too old and way too smart to play with children.
 
And another thing...
Any of you real growers ever wonder why the mouthy know it all types NEVER have even one photo of a Marijuana Plant...is it just me or is that realy freaking strange...?
bump de bump bump
 
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Goddamn this thread blew up in a matter of minutes!

Consider this the cyber version of me jumping in on a bar fight and pulling Scorpion out of it. I got your back brother!!!!

You know better than to even bother posting in these threads........more less reading them in the first place....

=)
 
Shemp

your like a drunken uncle at the family gatherings we all dread there arrival yet tolerate lol.


They talk complete shit are always right and every one else is wrong

LMAO

I had to say this ,that is hilarious i was thinking this about you yesterday the drunk uncle in ya family .I kno i should have ignored this but damn you fellas r persistant my name came up atleast 15 times since i been quiet

They like the drunk uncle in your family
You know they lame, you feel ashamed, but you love 'em the same


You really got apair of balls ,I now know there is somthing really mentally wrong with you .You have some gall

This is a must listen to b4 ya next post,the hook particularly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLXYiF_BdAs


now we both have nicknames shemp

YouTube - shemp has gas
 
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Goddamn this thread blew up in a matter of minutes!

Consider this the cyber version of me jumping in on a bar fight and pulling Scorpion out of it. I got your back brother!!!!

You know better than to even bother posting in these threads........more less reading them in the first place....

=)
ty bobby...its good to know there are still a few who know exactly what
"got your back really means"
No worries man,I wasnt referring to biggy at all,I guess it hit a nerve or something...whats the saying?
"If the shoe fits"
 
Originally Posted by Scorpion
And another thing...
Any of you real growers ever wonder why the mouthy know it all types NEVER have even one photo of a Marijuana Plant...is it just me or is that realy freaking strange...?

Hey Scorp :)
You're not the first to make this observation, it leads one to a few possibilities doesnt it?

When I first arrived at Overgrow.com a decade ago, I had already been a part of a very real underground scene in my home area for sometime. I was aware of the marijuana growing culture already, though had never grown a plant until then, but had read every High Times magazine and book I could get my hands on. Boy, I was an expert before I ever came online lol...

Then a little something called reality sunk in! I realized I had much to learn, and as hempy said earlier, before I got into space travel I needed to discover the wheel first.
 
Hey Jesse,
man we don't talk like we used too...back in day as they say.
Yes a learning curve is needed to be experienced before one can achieve success...I planted my first marijuana in 1976-77? boy was it a big ole male plant...lol we thought it was a Hash Plant since it was releaseing all that hash...LOL
I bet we pollenated every ditch weed in the county.
well lets just say I saw the light when I returned from South East Asia and could not find any thing that compared...soo what do you do when you can't beg,borrow or steal it?
Ha you learn to grow it...better than anything I could or have ever purchased...
Thanks Nevil...I mean that too ;)
 
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