Musashi Plays With Fire- The Doors and Neville's Haze

[musashi]

Aloha fellow Firewalkers!

8 weeks and counting! Here is a selection of Doors tops; flat, domed, speared, and in between. Thought I’d throw in some Nev tops too. While I do appreciate the "indoor" height of The Doors, I must confess I like the look of the Nev’s better. On long thick vines; delicate flowers that manifest big airy buds at the last moment. It just looks more… well, like sativa. Texture remind me of Acropora coral. I am not much for the chunky look of The Doors. I am sure the potency that everyone talks about will help me get over my bias. I do prefer those single stacked calyxes though. Smells are becoming more consistent with the room as a whole giving off fuel and solvent these last few days.
With roughly 3-6 weeks left, I am already thinking about what will be next. Pursue the f2’s or the NHxDoors cross or? I do have a good quantity of NHM, MH, MW, LN, NL/Hz, and Skunk Haze seeds…

Well here they are.


The Door #4 and #5


The Doors #7 and #9


The Door #11 and #15


Neville's Haze #2 and #3


Neville's Haze #4 and #6


Shaka
Mu

 

[Amoril]

You're not wrong... those nevilles hazes look incredible!!

 

[PlantManBee]

Things look fantastic Mu.

A common misconception about sativa I read often is that Sativa don't yield well. You are about to explode that idea.

 

[musashi]

Aloha braddahs!

@Amoril- thank you braddah for looking this way. It really is a special plant that everyone should grow. There is a certain magic they impart while working with them. Can't wait to see how your Silver's turn out!

@PMB- all one has to do to experience your words is to grow SSH or NL/Haze to verify them.


Mango Haze IBL- one plant


This morning:



They are growing fast!

As we end the 2nd going into the 3rd period of this hockey game, the tapering of N has begun and the increasing push of PK has resulted in maturing flowers and stronger fragrances. While most everyone has tolerated it, I did find a shy, delicate one getting the frizzies.
Interestingly, she is the one with slender fingers and buds. Sparse, with long, lower laterals, her apical terminating in single stacked calyxes. She is looking kind of special as she stands slightly apart from her sisters. And that top just begs to be wrapped around a small bamboo stick. One can dream eh?

Neville's Haze #8






Shaka
Mu

 

[Ptree]

It is very nice indeed.

Musashi, can you tell me what is the height of #8?

As Iam still considering the way of Sativa grow, this seem as best choice for height management. I mean to tie it. I started to hate fiming recently, so this looks as maybe best variant for me. I need to keep my upcoming sativa plants no more than 120 cm. - and thus I am still freaked out a bit from it

 

[Marcus_in_the_Darkus]

Aloha fellow Firewalkers!

I must confess I like the look of the Nev’s better. On long thick vines; delicate flowers that manifest big airy buds at the last moment. It just looks more… well, like sativa. Texture remind me of Acropora coral. I am not much for the chunky look of The Doors. I am sure the potency that everyone talks about will help me get over my bias. I do prefer those single stacked calyxes though.

I agree wholeheartedly, I really prefer the sativa bud structure. That said, I sat down for a smoke with #1 son the other day and he was raving about The Doors because it throws so much kief, which is true. Lots of resin, and it's dry on the buds, not sticky. Would be great for hash making.

I think my next MNS grow is gonna be some Nevs. Can't wait to see what kind of smoke you get. And, yeah, that Neville's Haze #8 is truly stunning, worthy of the high maintenance she demands. Hopefully she takes you for many long and joyful magic carpet rides.

 

[musashi]

Aloha braddahs!

wow dude, so much resin for a sativa!

@CF- I know, I am really bummed about it too!

@Marcus- thank you Marcus, cool we think alike on these things. I confirmed that NH #8 had been cloned. Yay! Additionally, her seeds will be included in my upcoming part two- “Doors f2 and Nev/Doors f1 grow”. Favorites keep changing as she was originally in tier 2 before, now tier 1. NH #7 is now under serious consideration also- da kine nappy! Unfortunately, no clone of NH #7 but her seeds will be evaluated.




Neville's Haze #7

@P3Ci- NH #8 is right around 184cm. Most of the plants are closer to 198cm. As many of the wise ones that have gone before us have said, the rule of thumb for these is 3.5-4x growth when switched over. I started at 16” and now they are over 6 feet!
I dislike topping plants. A special treat to leave them on if you can so as to appreciate the beauty that these plants can exemplify; expressing their originally intended morphology.
BUT don’t hesitate growing the Nev’s, just grab the tiger’s tail brah and hang on for the ride of your life! It is truly sublime and a very rewarding grow.

@masey re: Doors- got me back on track thinking about those f2's! What's happening with your NH pack?

So far, this has been a satisfyingly great grow. It’s easy getting passionate about plants like these for sure. But I could not have done it without the input, support and guidance of the many in this ohana. Mahalo braddahs, this bud’s for you.


The Doors #7 1_15

Aloha nui loa
Mu

 

[musashi]

Be The Ball

Aloha fellow Firewalkers!

Happy Groundhog Day!



At risk of repeating myself, the smells coming from the room this morning before the carbon filter kicks in several minutes after the lights turn on is eye watering. It could be the lot of them but I suspect it is more The Doors. A harbinger of things to come? The Neville’s is exhibiting that classic haze smell, slightly mango. Yummy, yummy!
The Doors is showing maturing pistils now; browning up, while the Neville’s remains in clear white radiance. Lights are still at 11/13 and I am in no hurry to finish these as I am wanting to max light them. Reduced lighting will come soon enough. N has tapered to <25% while PK has increased considerably, though I did have to back off due to some burn. Going forward into this third period, it will be primarily water and teas of molasses, etc.
As PMB was saying about sativa yields, looks like The Doors will yield more than the G13/AfSk I grew


The Doors #7 1_31


The Doors #1 2_2


Neville's Haze #3 2_2



Ty Webb: You take drugs, Danny?
Danny Noonan: Every day.
Ty Webb: Good. Then what’s your problem?
Danny Noonan: I don’t know.

Ty Webb: I’m going to give you a little advice. There’s a force in the universe that makes things happen. And all you have to do is get in touch with it, stop thinking, let things happen, and be the ball.


Shaka
Mu

 

[Dkeppel]

Wow thats some fine flowers you've got there Mu. How's that 3 to 6 week prediction looking ?

 

[Marcus_in_the_Darkus]

Greetings brother Musashi,

I just wanted to let you know that the pictures of Neville's Haze you are posting are haunting me. I can't get them out of my mind! Such a legendary stain!

 

[musashi]

Aloha braddahs!

@CannaFish serious funk! Miss those Cuban heels, hairdos and fur hats lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1wOK9yGUYM

@Dkeppel going into week 10. The Doors are going in that direction with more determination while some of the Neville’s are just beginning the process. I think most may finish in that 3-6 wk window.

@Marcus the Neville’s Haze is unique and certainly easy to get passionate about. Clearly, you have been there and know the feeling that comes from growing extreme hazes and sativas.

The Neville’s Haze has finally slowed in stem growth as they now focus most of their energies on flower development. They are starting to plump up, calyxes swelling in stickiness. I have begun balancing some of the colas on top of the bamboo poles as they start to hang low with gravity. Seeds are almost ready for harvest as we just passed the 30 day mark. It is easy spending time in the room with these exotic beauties; in communion with them, as I never tire of looking at them! Sea anemones, sea cucumbers, starfish! I continue to enjoy the ride and am looking forward to the finished product.


Neville's Haze #2 and #3


Neville's Haze #4 and #5


Neville's Haze #6 and #7


Neville's Haze #8 and #10


Shaka
Mu

 

[musashi]

The Doors at 9.5 weeks

Aloha fellow Firewalkers!

Fresh, fragrant and vine ripened! #11 is almost ready to sample! They are beginning flush with lower leaves starting to yellow. Further light reduction will begin week 10. I look forward to The Doors finishing in ~12 weeks. Fingers crossed

The Doors this morning.

The Doors #1 and #3


The Doors #4 and #5


The Doors #7 and #8


The Doors #8 and #10


The Doors #11 and #15


Shaka
Mu

 

[kief420]

I would have topped that nevils quite a few times then cut off some of the lowers and let it veg longer . Looks good though it can be a viney hard plant to get under hand . Lots of tying down and training . I grew it about for two years but had to get rid of everything because of security issues but things are looking better now

 

[musashi]

Ikebana

Aloha braddahs!

@kief420 thanks for dropping in. I appreciate your interest and comments.

It gets me thinking; we all have different reasons and different methods for growing cannabis. Often, our expectations need to mesh with what resources we have available as well.
As a hobbyist and a medical grower, I grow mainly for myself. I am not limited to the size constraints imposed by grow tents and so don’t need to chop because of these limitations. While I typically trim off the first several nodes because of limited light and to ward off intersex problems, I reserve my lower branches for pollination when necessary. Yield is secondary; I value quality and potency more. I am also interested in the aesthetics; how the plant naturally expresses itself. I grow accordingly. As Shanti’s plants exhibit apical dominance in many of his varieties; indoors, LST if required is fine with me. It is the Tai Chi way; yielding and redirecting. I believe in mana- the spirit energy within plants, and in honoring this, it would be a shame to top them if I didn’t have to.

The Doors at 10 weeks:

Door #1 and #7


Doors #4 and #5


Doors #3


Doors #11 leaf

Neville's Haze at 10 weeks:

Neville's Haze #3


Shaka
Mu

 

[Dkeppel]

There is a large puddle of drool underneath me ....

These girls are gorgeous, I think the NH has stolen The Doors thunder a little bit this grow, I'm with you guys I love the sativa flower structure it's very exotic but I'm also loving the look of these Doors girls, very resinous, weight is looking good, good choice of phenos and a practical sativa for indoors it ticks a lot of boxes.

100% agreed Mu, if I had the option I'd leave things as natural as possible too, quality and potency are top priority.

 

[musashi]

Week 11

Aloha kakahiaka braddahs!

@Dkeppel indeed, regarding the Neville's Haze, I never tire of their exotic look, their smell and taste, and of course their effect. The Doors have some practical advantages. Similar to my Cure grow, buds are tight, plants are of a reasonable height for ID and yield is very good. Has a structure somewhat similar to Destroyer by CBG. But I do like the NH structure better. You are right on with your assessment brah!

Now at 11 weeks of flower, I have been blessed not to incur the wrath of arachnids or harmful fungi during this grow.
Light has been diminished over the last few weeks in 15 min increments and today will be further reduced to 10/14 in an effort to get them to finish on time. While The Doors has some almost ready for harvest (D11 and D3), with the other ones coming along nicely, those pesky Neville’s refuse to go along, taking their sweet time getting there lol.
Speaking of sweet, I checked the status of my seeding project this morning. All is well with seeds; ripe and plump, they are literally bursting from their coverings while on the drying rack. Sorting will occur in the next few days. I picked a branch of Neville’s #3 for inspection; seeds falling onto the counter. NH #3 is currently my favorite NH plant due to morphology and greater potential yield. I managed to tease some material from her about the size of 3 seeds, enough for one small toke. I wish you could see the Cheshire grin I have been wearing on my face for the last hour. Sometimes the stars align perfectly and we get the best of all possible worlds in terms of potency, structure and yield. I am looking forward to the testing and confirmation of this working hypothesis in the near future.

Sorry for the quality of some of the pics. My editing skills suck. Hopefully they will at least give you an idea.

The Doors #1


The Doors #5


The Doors #7


The Doors #9


Neville's Haze #6


Neville's Haze #7


Neville's Haze #10


Neville's Haze #2

Shaka
Mu

 

[Marcus_in_the_Darkus]

I agree, the Nev's Haze is stealing the show! Maybe it's because I've recently grown The Doors but, damn...the Nev's is just gorgeous. So happy to hear your initial toke is so promising. Beautiful plants, Musashi, your grow environemnt seems to be pretty dialed in!

 

[masey]

Blimey The Doors #7 looks like Critical Mass - must be the pheno scrubdog described as "chunky"

Shame you didn't find anything you like marcus, maybe need 50-100 population to find the je ne sais quoi, scrub mentioned

That said - Quality work Mu you'll have a few jars to last you a week or two

 

[blowingupjake]

Musashi!
Shame on you bro.
Not a single “wet floor sign” in here and the floor is covered in all this grower drool.
F’ing hazardous.

Outstanding work my brother. These plants are looking so happy to be grown by you. Let the good times roll.

 

[Amoril]

Jake... mines not drool

Mu... you're crushing it man. Seriously.