tazmcd
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and us brits / scottish
Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid
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tazmcd
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greeeeedy weeedy
eventually there will be only female seeds to use , l hope not , its greed thats produced this arising out of the dutch cannibis scene , i hope america and canada dont go the same way as the dutch and get lost in the sea of greed . i fink female seeds should be banished they will be the death of the industry for us ,greeeeeed is killing the seed industry to many plonkers trying to make a freeee buck . i could easy make seeds come on here and try and hawk them stealthly but that that would be cheating as im not abreeder
eventually there will be only female seeds to use , l hope not , its greed thats produced this arising out of the dutch cannibis scene , i hope america and canada dont go the same way as the dutch and get lost in the sea of greed . i fink female seeds should be banished they will be the death of the industry for us ,greeeeeed is killing the seed industry to many plonkers trying to make a freeee buck . i could easy make seeds come on here and try and hawk them stealthly but that that would be cheating as im not abreeder
bfskinner
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Taz, I think that you would have every right to hawk whatever seeds you made. Making seeds on purpose is what makes you a "breeder", there is no recognized cannabis husbandry degree granting institution. Just wouldn't be very polite to hawk them at another breeders forum!
tazmcd
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howdi , what i was meaning that it must at least 5 years to become a breeder who produces good plants to someone who reads a few books or net and then produces seed overnight which i could easly do i cant even grow plants properly never mind make seeds .cheers good harvests to you all in 2012.
tazmcd
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tazmcd
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as a new member ive been looking and waiting for something like the grail for 25 year and its in the right hands please dont all fall out or well all be losers in the end and some really ill people are wanting this product to all the guys who are making the grail fu$k the negative people its the ill peeps who are important they need the grail.
jack hairy
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I also cant wait to hear more about this grail project, the hybrids theyve made so far, and the plan on where to go from there.
in the meantime, ill share some more NH pics.
this plant, NH#4, seems like it is about as quick as a NH could be, but might be able to stick it out for 3 months also. all of its hairs are a light orange and this is only after 6 weeks. the buds are slightly plump and if it got flushed now i would say it would be ready at 60 days.
as a clone, NH#4, and the rest, had there first two weeks under some weak flourescent lighting, before i hung a 400 over them. so the clones seemed to make it to 90 without much problems, theyre about 95 days right now. it is a bit cooler in that room so thats where most of the color is coming from i suppose.
as the bigger plants were in buckets, i was quite surprised to see how fast it was.
a couple branches were a bit too close to the light, and some interesting colors popped out.
clones at ~95
here are a few of the strange colored branches, started off with red and purple tips on the calyxes, maybe the heat and intense light simulates the hot columbian sun?
there will be more normal pics of NH in my other thread, i just thought these were cool.
in the meantime, ill share some more NH pics.
this plant, NH#4, seems like it is about as quick as a NH could be, but might be able to stick it out for 3 months also. all of its hairs are a light orange and this is only after 6 weeks. the buds are slightly plump and if it got flushed now i would say it would be ready at 60 days.
as a clone, NH#4, and the rest, had there first two weeks under some weak flourescent lighting, before i hung a 400 over them. so the clones seemed to make it to 90 without much problems, theyre about 95 days right now. it is a bit cooler in that room so thats where most of the color is coming from i suppose.
as the bigger plants were in buckets, i was quite surprised to see how fast it was.
a couple branches were a bit too close to the light, and some interesting colors popped out.
clones at ~95
here are a few of the strange colored branches, started off with red and purple tips on the calyxes, maybe the heat and intense light simulates the hot columbian sun?
there will be more normal pics of NH in my other thread, i just thought these were cool.
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jack hairy
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ok, the other pics are up over there.
so its an interesting view into some of the NH for me,
with only 5 seeds started and 3 females from that, i see very little similarity overall in the 3 plants. I was hoping for a 4 month plant, maybe next time.
so far, i dont think any of these NH reach the level of quality of my old jack herer, much to my surprise. i really thought it would be easy to match that quality from just about any NH, seems my search will have to continue.
i wonder if ssh is my best bet, havent ordered those yet but i have nl5 x haze from both sensi and mns, mango haze, and afghan haze waiting for their turn.
is it the doubling up of haze C that creates that special citrusy haze vapor, or will i be able to find it in the NH by itself?
so its an interesting view into some of the NH for me,
with only 5 seeds started and 3 females from that, i see very little similarity overall in the 3 plants. I was hoping for a 4 month plant, maybe next time.
so far, i dont think any of these NH reach the level of quality of my old jack herer, much to my surprise. i really thought it would be easy to match that quality from just about any NH, seems my search will have to continue.
i wonder if ssh is my best bet, havent ordered those yet but i have nl5 x haze from both sensi and mns, mango haze, and afghan haze waiting for their turn.
is it the doubling up of haze C that creates that special citrusy haze vapor, or will i be able to find it in the NH by itself?
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itsbenfun
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That's a good thought Jack. I've been wondering why SB doesn't do SSH x hazeC. I miss my JH too!
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Dawn
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Just a thought but maybe you should try Neville's Haze/Mango and see how that goes.
Just my 2 cents
tazmcd
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howdi, 1992 me n girlfriend grew nl5h ,she gave a strong j to pal she had a breakdown ,lost it . whoops
tazmcd
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spent many a day there lovely white widow 8 a g my fav used be de baron in breda at least 5 hazes all crisp dry . i was there a year ago super silver haze blew my boots off 10 ag well worth it . t
jack hairy
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im going to go to amsterdam in mid march, going to have to go see this boat.
this is the best NH i have so far.
looks like it will take 3-3.5 months.
this is the best NH i have so far.
looks like it will take 3-3.5 months.
jack hairy
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im still hoping to find better, but i just had to pop 5 seeds as soon as i got them, get at least one to smoke asap until i have the time and space to go through the rest.
Piff Rhys Jones
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Hi itsbenfun
I think I remember Nevil saying that combining haze c multiple times did not result in improvement? I'll try and find the quote...
It may however affect the taste and increase the citrusy thai aspect you're after.
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itsbenfun
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Hey piff,
I remember something along those lines too but towards the begging of the thread he mentioned a NH x haze C as a possible path for the Grail. I think its assumed Jack herer pedigree is SSH x haze C but no one really knows. It seems he is impressed enough with kangas lines to not go that route for the Grail. Hopefully Jack makes some interesting crosses with his AC pollen for us to see.
IBF
I remember something along those lines too but towards the begging of the thread he mentioned a NH x haze C as a possible path for the Grail. I think its assumed Jack herer pedigree is SSH x haze C but no one really knows. It seems he is impressed enough with kangas lines to not go that route for the Grail. Hopefully Jack makes some interesting crosses with his AC pollen for us to see.
IBF
Piff Rhys Jones
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Yeah I was confused by Nevil's statement as SSH is a doubling up of haze C...
Either way, Im sure there is a lot more exploring to be had with regards to different haze a/c combinations..
Let's get on it!!
johnthepiper
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SSH is (NL5xhazeC)x(skunkxhazeC). Jack Herer has the same pedigree. HazeC crossed to NH or Jack Herer is not the answer to the Grail. HazeC degenerates when crossed back to itself as it is from an incomplete line. Nevil told me no 50% hazeA hybrids were ever released to the public in seed form. 5c from the late 80's was hazeC.
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zigzag
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Doubling up on haze c results in more catpiss phenos which to most are undesirable. I am sure that is in this thread somewhere I remember Nevil posting this.
This is why LaNina is a good choice to put to the haze lines as it has the thought to be unrelated MM in it. Unless you can get the MM straight up and use it but that might be a very unruly beast for indoors.
This is why LaNina is a good choice to put to the haze lines as it has the thought to be unrelated MM in it. Unless you can get the MM straight up and use it but that might be a very unruly beast for indoors.
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