The Great Cheese Deception

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haha well iv done it, 90 light warehouse with 1500 odd cheese, ran it for a year and still here to tell the tale! lol.. did have 18 10inc fan n filters tho!!! lol

anyone who slags cheese off obviously hasnt tried it, yer theirs better highs to be had but cheese is the only strain that turns out quality no matter how badly it was grown..

another thing, cheese doesnt need a 4 week cure just to bring out the smell and taste like so many strains do.. you can smoke cheese litraly 4 days after chopping and still smokes ok.. give it 10 days and its AA grade, no cure needed at all.. , you name me one other strain that does that!

cheese all day everyday! lol

i find this funny man, so ur the guy who has ran the big warehouse for a year full of cheese, been running the strain for years as well i bet, never seen any of your cheese turn male ??? which i have seen you say also, you dont believe his story which i have seen also, but for him to get you to stfu for 3-4 months he tossed a packet of beans your way, lol, here mr cheese, stfu for a bit, here is a packet of seeds, tbh i dont give a shit what you think after you have grew then out, just stfu just now will you for a few months, kinda cheap, i would not even risk putting they beans in my growroom but thats me, so i will be looking forward to your results with these myself mr cheese and i wish you the very best of luck.
 
i find this funny man, so ur the guy who has ran the big warehouse for a year full of cheese, been running the strain for years as well i bet, never seen any of your cheese turn male ??? which i have seen you say also, you dont believe his story which i have seen also, but for him to get you to stfu for 3-4 months he tossed a packet of beans your way, lol, here mr cheese, stfu for a bit, here is a packet of seeds, tbh i dont give a shit what you think after you have grew then out, just stfu just now will you for a few months, kinda cheap, i would not even risk putting they beans in my growroom but thats me, so i will be looking forward to your results with these myself mr cheese and i wish you the very best of luck.

whats with all the hatred guys???

what does stfu mean?? youl have to forgive me but im not up to par with the whole txt lingo..

as for running rockstars cheese in my grow room, well i wouldn't risk them in my main grow either which is why i have test tents which i use to run seeds..
and go look at the thread in question, youl see i stand by what iv said but that doesnt mean i wont do my own test out of curiosity..

and to pistol pete and all the haters... isnt jealousy a bitch! couldn't give a toss who belives me or not, the people who matter to me know and iv made my dow so im happy..

stay safe everyone
 
yeah sorry for having a go at you mr cheese, you had me wondering why you would put these seeds in along with your other plants but your explanation is fine :) stfu means shut the fuck up since you were 1 of the people who did not believe him as well i thought he was just giving you the seeds to tell you to shut up for a while, but i do wish you the very best with your seeds and will look forward to seeing the results myself, and again sorry for having a go at you.
 
Again, some more pictures of the numerous varieties of cannabis being labeled 'UK Cheese' out there.

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So what we know for sure is that there are quite a few different UK Cheese varieties floating around out there in the world, however none of them look like the original. Im sure these clones being misidentified or falsely labeled are quality varieties, otherwise why even keep a cutting? However the fact remains none of these UK Cheese cuts resemble the Original UK Cheese plant. Which ofcourse was a selected Skunk #1 variety from Sensi Seed Bank.

If anyone has any UK Cheese pictures that resemble the Original UK Cheese, please feel free to post them up. But Im going to go out on a limb and say that I highly doubt we will see a picture represented as Cheese that resembles the original. :)

The picture of what you say is the UK cheese is a fake,look at the background and lighting.
Here is uk cheese,grows very different in soil,id say its very much ike skunk1 but smell is different aswell as high..
Excuse poor picture quality,it was a while back,I owned cheese for many year but unfortunately lost it
This picture is 1 plant in 1.2x1.2x2m tall tent in 90 litre bucket with airstone and also drippers..

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Now woul you believe the one in soil was a cutting from my plant in tent??
well it was and they who had it bought it back,they hadnt looked after it at all as in soil they do grow smaller but not as thin as that.

Now to say ''oh that looks like a plant shanti has'' is just stupid cuz you could say every sativa dom looks like cheese,its the smell and taste aswell as high that makes it different,to make opinions and refference to a blatently bullshit picture is rediculous as exodus collective have also made it clear that the picture you reffer to is no cheese..

Now blue cheese off bigg buddha I have looks nothing like the blue you have picture of,its not blue at all!! but I tell you it grows like cheese and skunk1 and may just be the closest thing to cheese but the berry fruity smell is unfortunately not the smell of the cheese..
 
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whats with all the hatred guys???

what does stfu mean?? youl have to forgive me but im not up to par with the whole txt lingo..

as for running rockstars cheese in my grow room, well i wouldn't risk them in my main grow either which is why i have test tents which i use to run seeds..
and go look at the thread in question, youl see i stand by what iv said but that doesnt mean i wont do my own test out of curiosity..

and to pistol pete and all the haters... isnt jealousy a bitch! couldn't give a toss who belives me or not, the people who matter to me know and iv made my dow so im happy..

stay safe everyone


Take a look at rockster/kalimans edited description on attitude seedbank and his grows and I think youl fin its skunk1 cross.
Why not try trade in on the bullshit and milk it but I doubt it as big buddha has seemed to of milked the shit out of the cheese franchise..
Theres a reason its not been bred before and why there is no seeds that grow like it,there is however a seed that smells/tastes and smokes like it and that is ghs exodus and if I were a betting man id bet ghs over kaliman any day as they have the $$$$£££££ experience to go with it while rockster is simply or was simply a bedroom hackers,yes i seen the grow pictures in your back yard picking seeds,not very proffesional now is it..

Please do check the new descriptions as it is no longer the true revolutionary exodus but the skunk1 back crossed and crossed,if I were a vreeder,id put bigbuddhas blue cheese or skunk1 over cheese and then back cross,would make sense really,I dont think this kaliman even had time to get the genetics right,was very quick business,to quick to have done hybrids although im pretty sure the new description is hybrid now..

Man theres some right crap out there,cheese x bubble gum?? that dont even sound right,sickly mouldy smelling straine mixed with a fruits one,like have real blue cheese and banna sandwich,you get me here???

Cant some one just work this clone properly for a few years instea of just trying to milk it??
 
haha well iv done it, 90 light warehouse with 1500 odd cheese, ran it for a year and still here to tell the tale! lol.. did have 18 10inc fan n filters tho!!! lol

anyone who slags cheese off obviously hasnt tried it, yer theirs better highs to be had but cheese is the only strain that turns out quality no matter how badly it was grown..

another thing, cheese doesnt need a 4 week cure just to bring out the smell and taste like so many strains do.. you can smoke cheese litraly 4 days after chopping and still smokes ok.. give it 10 days and its AA grade, no cure needed at all.. , you name me one other strain that does that!

cheese all day everyday! lol

Just by reading your last few sentences I can tell you,your full of shit and have not grown it out properly,to say it dont need curing is completely amateur..
Go medicate your self,UK 1500 plants job,dont think so,youd get cought on electriciy alone,farm/country side I would of believed it more with natural sunlight but sorry,not even the legal growers in big ass ranches are doing that scale,nore are the amsterdamn farms,you must be some high ranking columbian cartel member but they grow outside??
what a cunt,i feel like a roach if I were you,go medicate ffs
 
G`day RXX

Where ya been bro ?
You missed the chapter where JeSSe was accussing British Hempire of bein Big Buddha Seeds lol.
And when he was proven wrong still couldn`t let it go ...

Welcome to MNS enjoy your stay .

Thanks for sharin

Elmer Bud .

Hello there friend,
I know,been a while,been cought up in life.
Yea been reading some right bullshit threw here just now,going to have to stop as it angers me to see so much rubbish,the cheese has truly been abused all over the place,I really want a real breeder,shanti,nevill any one to just work on the cheese and really get it sorted..

Theres people who know it way better then me,I too am still learning but I dont preten to know everything,all im trying to do here is take the bullshit out so cheese stops getting milked, I think ghs have nearly got it,theres a few of us testing there exodus,while id argue out right it should never of been named exodus,the indica dome is very close smoke and smell but physicly looks nothing like cheese as its indica dom,however there is a sativa dom,grows just like cheese,has all distinguishable marking,doube serrated large skinny leaves but its very un stable and IMO shouldnt be on the market till stabilised..

Im re doing a batch,I will put a journal together for every one,its a real shame I dont have the cheese no more and I wont take the chances trying to get a clone as I it so hard to tell when vegging,then you get to flower and end up with crap,pluss the hole putting my name to clones and growing puts my crop at risk..

That I posted pictures of was a true cheese,if you look threw many journals you wil see but you could easily pass off a skunk1 in veg as cheese..

Take care all,hoping some day this straine gets the real reviews it should and not used simply to make money,that plant pulled 15oz dry,ive seen them pull 20 oz,the soil ones hardly pull 2 oz,so weird,I think its really just a very unstable straine to find but it is easy to grow..

Take care,will book mark here as you have a bit more freedom to correct and educate people then other places..

I tell no lie,i tell you straight what I think and thats the way I like to be told to so dont be shy,feel free to say stfu for 2min youve write a novel already lol

Im truly paassionate about the cheese and its disgracefull how some are milking it,while big buddhas milked it,he aint give us no bullshit,you know..

Any way,ramble over,il see you all about,no hard feelings,just trying to help
 
Cheese really is an interesting, danky variety of Skunk 1, imo. No hype.

I know, I know, it's just Skunk 1, etc.

Peace
 
Just by reading your last few sentences I can tell you,your full of shit and have not grown it out properly,to say it dont need curing is completely amateur..
Go medicate your self,UK 1500 plants job,dont think so,youd get cought on electriciy alone,farm/country side I would of believed it more with natural sunlight but sorry,not even the legal growers in big ass ranches are doing that scale,nore are the amsterdamn farms,you must be some high ranking columbian cartel member but they grow outside??
what a cunt,i feel like a roach if I were you,go medicate ffs

are you serious?? just go look t videos on youtube of some of the big uk grows.. iv seen grows of 200 lights.. hell theirs grows on icmag with them number lights.

as for me bull shiting? well go ask the owner of breedbay, guy called pistils, he is a personal friend of mine who also run a growshop where a brought all my equipment.. its been 2 yrs since i shut it down so i dnt mind talking about it..
hell ask sonic seeds owner aswell he knws i did it.. so dont go around saying im bullshiting until youve got the facts.
and yes i am the mr cheese frm the big buddha website buddha is another personal friend and my strain bubblecheese is as dank as the exodus cheese, a fact folks at breedbay wil confirm as they have grown it.
as for buddhas version of bubblecheese im not to keen, still dank bt not my flavor.

so im not some kid trying to big himself up, just merely sharing in what iv done over the years.. to just say im full of shit is down right rude.. i dont need to lie my friend

edit to add.. how anyone can say cheese is just skunk 1 is beond me.. not sayin its not skunk 1 but it sure as hell dont smell or taste like any skunk 1 seeds iv grown and iv grown a fair few.. every skunk 1 seeds iv grown dont come anywhere near cheese so how can people say " oh it aint all that its only skunk 1" when it clearly isnt, its so much more, can anybody genuinely say they have grown any skunk 1 seeds that smell and taste like cheese? i know i can't
 
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Take a look at rockster/kalimans edited description on attitude seedbank and his grows and I think youl fin its skunk1 cross.
Why not try trade in on the bullshit and milk it but I doubt it as big buddha has seemed to of milked the shit out of the cheese franchise..
Theres a reason its not been bred before and why there is no seeds that grow like it,there is however a seed that smells/tastes and smokes like it and that is ghs exodus and if I were a betting man id bet ghs over kaliman any day as they have the $$$$£££££ experience to go with it while rockster is simply or was simply a bedroom hackers,yes i seen the grow pictures in your back yard picking seeds,not very proffesional now is it..

Please do check the new descriptions as it is no longer the true revolutionary exodus but the skunk1 back crossed and crossed,if I were a vreeder,id put bigbuddhas blue cheese or skunk1 over cheese and then back cross,would make sense really,I dont think this kaliman even had time to get the genetics right,was very quick business,to quick to have done hybrids although im pretty sure the new description is hybrid now..

Man theres some right crap out there,cheese x bubble gum?? that dont even sound right,sickly mouldy smelling straine mixed with a fruits one,like have real blue cheese and banna sandwich,you get me here???

Cant some one just work this clone properly for a few years instea of just trying to milk it??

You should read things properly before gobbing your mouth off with a load of ignorant rubbish but hey, that is mostly par for the course in this thread?

I've worked the clone for 2 years thankyou very much and yes, at an amateur level but if you'd read a bit about my Cheese#1 you would have learnt that it isn't a hybrid cross but is derived solely from 100% pure Exodus genetics and is therefore quite unique seeing as it's in regular seed form and is the cheese to all intents and purposes as it's indistinguishable from the clone both in the grinder and when smoked and is in a different league to Arjans rather poor offerings if ya don't mind me saying?

It was me growing Big Buddha's cheese twice before I thought, hang on, I reckon I can do better than this and did with my Rocksters Cheese ( Exodus x Skunk#1 x 3 back cross ) but when I had this freak occurrence with the Cheese#1,well, fate and chance has given me something totally unique ( the clone in seed form- nobody else has it ) and loved by everybody who has tried it and I mean everybody, not had one complaint.

And as for seeing pics of me working with plants or seeds in my back yard ( I don't have one ), sir, you are lying and I don't give a shit if you are " passionate about the cheese" as you know nothing about it.

Anybody going to the 11th Canarian Cup in Tenerife next week?

I'll see ya there where I'll be flying the flag for good old blighty. :)
 
Possible Cheese?

So if the cheese comes from sk#1 is it possible to get a cheese pheno from the "shit" beans I just germinate. I am currently running a pheno hunt on the sk#1,"shit" from Mr. Nice, and there is one plant that really sticks out from the rest. Im getting your typical clones the tall one, red veined etc. but have never seen this pheno before. She is maturing at a much slower rate then the rest and as you can see looks different then the others. Here are some pics if someone could help me out that would be great. I run a hybrid wick system with coir/perlite medium in one gal pots. These shots of the girls they are 17 days into flower. I took her off table to get a better look, I can take shots of table if need be so you can see other phenos to compare. All these beans were popped at same time and shorter plants have been raised to get same light as others. They all get same nutes and light. I know its still very early but was hoping someone could help me anyway. Thanks in advance.
 

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So if the cheese comes from sk#1 is it possible to get a cheese pheno from the "shit" beans I just germinate. I am currently running a pheno hunt on the sk#1,"shit" from Mr. Nice, and there is one plant that really sticks out from the rest. Im getting your typical clones the tall one, red veined etc. but have never seen this pheno before. She is maturing at a much slower rate then the rest and as you can see looks different then the others. Here are some pics if someone could help me out that would be great. I run a hybrid wick system with coir/perlite medium in one gal pots. These shots of the girls they are 17 days into flower. I took her off table to get a better look, I can take shots of table if need be so you can see other phenos to compare. All these beans were popped at same time and shorter plants have been raised to get same light as others. They all get same nutes and light. I know its still very early but was hoping someone could help me anyway. Thanks in advance.

Hey Blood,

no mate, you most certainly won't get a cheesy pheno from any purported Skunk#1 knocking about these days and the best monicker I could attach to modern Skunk#1 is 'citrus bland lite' and is nothing worth writing home about.

Cheese was, to my mind at least, most definitely a sport or spontaneous mutation of early Skunk#1 as its terpenoid/resin profile is galaxy's away from the Skunk#1 piss poor blando blando of today.

So in answer to your question I don't think you'll find exceptional or unusual pheno's in todays modern Skunk#1 IBL's.

But hey, the pot itself whilst lacking character in the flavour department can still push brain buttons fo sho!


peace

Rockster
 

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Jeezus, why all the fuss about Cheese, it's bog standard weed popular because any arsehole can grow it and sell it for a top price cos it always stinks the same whether you fuck it up or not.

Definitely not top shelf weed tho, bog standard dutch skunk.

Not even that popular anymore, can't think of many who still bother with it, so many better cuts in the UK these days, Cheese is yesterday's news.
 
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Jeezus, why all the fuss about Cheese, it's bog standard weed popular because any arsehole can grow it and sell it for a top price cos it always stinks the same whether you fuck it up or not.

Definitely not top shelf weed tho, bog standard dutch skunk.

Not even that popular anymore, can't think of many who still bother with it, so many better cuts in the UK these days, Cheese is yesterday's news.

First off I was talking about the original cheese from sk1 beans. So you really need to work on your reading comprehension skills. Second of all thank you very much for your hateful,negative post that really did nothing but make you look like an uninformed newbee pie. So why post this reply, it is obvious you have no idea what you are talking about and you cover it up by tossing out insults. So please if you have nothing to contribute to this thread just keep your negative thoughts to yourself because I did not ask for your opinion, Im looking for facts. Why do people find it necessary to demean people and post negative, hateful things? Since your mommy failed to mention this to you obviously, if you dont have anything positive to say, keep it to yourself. But hey thanks for playing.
 
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First off I was talking about the original cheese from sk1 beans. So you really need to work on your reading comprehension skills. Second of all thank you very much for your hateful,negative post that really did nothing but make you look like an uninformed newbee pie. So why post this reply, it is obvious you have no idea what you are talking about and you cover it up by tossing out insults. So please if you have nothing to contribute to this thread just keep your negative thoughts to yourself because I did not ask for your opinion, Im looking for facts. Why do people find it necessary to demean people and post negative, hateful things? Since your mommy failed to mention this to you obviously, if you dont have anything positive to say, keep it to yourself. But hey thanks for playing.

That was uncalled for. Thanks for making it clear you're someone with a bad attitude and to be ignored.

I gave you the facts - the Exodus Cheese is a medicore skunk pheno that lacks many of the desireable traits found in the Skunk line but has the distinguishing characteristic of having an unusually strong smell. Apart from the smell, it's only other desireable traits are the way it is so easy to grow and it clones very easily, in all other aspects it's bog standard skunk.

Fact is, Cheese became so popular for two reasons:

1. no matter how it's grown it always has that stink and in the UK uninformed people judge quality by the pengency of the smell

2. internet hype

them's the facts...

The Exodus is actually the least good of the 5 or 6 Cheese cuts in circulation, it just happens to be the original but having grown em all, it's the least of the bunch.
 
That was uncalled for. Thanks for making it clear you're someone with a bad attitude and to be ignored.

I gave you the facts - the Exodus Cheese is a medicore skunk pheno that lacks many of the desireable traits found in the Skunk line but has the distinguishing characteristic of having an unusually strong smell. Apart from the smell, it's only other desireable traits are the way it is so easy to grow and it clones very easily, in all other aspects it's bog standard skunk.

Fact is, Cheese became so popular for two reasons:

1. no matter how it's grown it always has that stink and in the UK uninformed people judge quality by the pengency of the smell

2. internet hype

them's the facts...

The Exodus is actually the least good of the 5 or 6 Cheese cuts in circulation, it just happens to be the original but having grown em all, it's the least of the bunch.

You post some inflammatory remark that added nothing to the discussion or even came close to addressing my question and now somehow you are the victim? You are unreal!

Since the original 'Cheese' clone descends from homogeneous stock, meaning the in-bred genetics are stable and true breeding, Cheese makes a perfect parent plant to cross to other plants. Breeders like Big Buddha wanted to cross the Cheese female with suited male plants to produce seeds. Many cheese hybrids have now been produced each with its own unique taste and flavor. This is nothing new since many of the commercial hybrids available today in seed are based on Skunk #1 genetics. This is because Skunk #1 has proven to be a viable for breeders as a parent plant year after year. Moreover as a unique specimen of Skunk #1 the Cheese clone is a prized plant winning several cannabis cups.

But of course if you truly were a grower or breeder you would know this. Plants aren’t always selected because they knock your socks off; sometimes there are certain traits in plants that are desired. Many things can factor into this, bug resistance, yield and yes even taste and smell. You dismiss taste and smell so quickly but most elite strains these days are so potent to keep looking for more and more potent weed in sacrifice of taste and smell is just silly. Smoking weed is an experience if you just want to just get high why don’t you just pop pills?

You come on here and claim to know more than Cannabis Cup judges and thousands of breeders and growers, not to mention the countless smokers. It must be an unbearable burden being such a know it all. The drivel you proclaim to be fact is in fact just rubbish.

One last thing, a very wise person once told me “If you lie to prove a point, the only point you prove is that you are a liar”.
 
Waste of time talking to you, you talk a lot of shit and have a bad attitude.

Cheese is a mediocre skunk selection, if you had grown some old skunk lines you would know this, it's one distinguisging characteristic is it's smell.
 
are you serious?? just go look t videos on youtube of some of the big uk grows.. iv seen grows of 200 lights.. hell theirs grows on icmag with them number lights.

as for me bull shiting? well go ask the owner of breedbay, guy called pistils, he is a personal friend of mine who also run a growshop where a brought all my equipment.. its been 2 yrs since i shut it down so i dnt mind talking about it..
hell ask sonic seeds owner aswell he knws i did it.. so dont go around saying im bullshiting until youve got the facts.
and yes i am the mr cheese frm the big buddha website buddha is another personal friend and my strain bubblecheese is as dank as the exodus cheese, a fact folks at breedbay wil confirm as they have grown it.
as for buddhas version of bubblecheese im not to keen, still dank bt not my flavor.

so im not some kid trying to big himself up, just merely sharing in what iv done over the years.. to just say im full of shit is down right rude.. i dont need to lie my friend

edit to add.. how anyone can say cheese is just skunk 1 is beond me.. not sayin its not skunk 1 but it sure as hell dont smell or taste like any skunk 1 seeds iv grown and iv grown a fair few.. every skunk 1 seeds iv grown dont come anywhere near cheese so how can people say " oh it aint all that its only skunk 1" when it clearly isnt, its so much more, can anybody genuinely say they have grown any skunk 1 seeds that smell and taste like cheese? i know i can't

Hi mr cheese, it's amazing the, well, 'passion', isn't quite the right the right word but outright emotional off the chartness with people giving their tuppence worth about cheese and most of it argued from a point of total ignorance?

I suppose people that knock cheese and it's hybrid derivatives haven't applied the same critical mindset to Kushes and Diesels as their most positive and obvious traits are in the taste and flavour department, are they not?



And no, of course Exodus genetics aren't the strongest on the planet but the Exodus cheese obviously strikes a deep and resonant chord within the cannabis community as otherwise how could a clone so readily stride all continents and be happily incorporated into many now available strains?

So you cheese bashers out there, if you've tasted and don't like, fine, that is your prerogative brother but please don't say a cheese afficionado has an unrefined UK palate and if you haven't tried it and just bash her from a point of ignorance, well then you ain't the kind of guy I'd wanna share a smoke or break bread with as you bring nothing positive to the party coz you iz just plain iggerant.

You know Milo, mr cheese? I've met him a few times at hempfairs and shared a few phatty's with the man myself, and hey, you know Peesh of Sonic seeds?

Well, then we have a good friend in common and can only say good things about the man as he's a really nice feller and dang, he's got some top genetics ( with sexy landrace injections ) and his chit is the only thing I've grown alongside my stuff over the last year or so.

So what makes up your BubbleCheese mi fren?

Lets just sit at the table of grown up discussion and the field of idea's and talk about this whilst ignoring the cheese detractors who snap at our ankles with the ferocity of combat rabbits on ketamine, lol! :p

peace


Rockster
 
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