The Great Cheese Deception

[spiritualyEnhanced]

what you have confused is that in the UK, where you don't live and neither do I that they call most herbal cannabis SKUNK

In America, another place you don't live skunk#1 is not considered commercial grade, and doesnt smell like a skunk. Suspect UK cheese tho, ranks.


again who is cannabis Sean you keep on referring too?

coop skunk in america is skunk unless there a bunch of new smokers.
dont call it skunk if its not.
mexico has skunk ,bahama's skunk south america sweet sativas but skunky.
all are eq sativa's
how far north is england holland amsterdam?????
fast skunk from afghani paki borders?????
you have to cut a plant from down there to survive in a new inviorment....its called creating vigor from scratch.

 

[hempy]

original skunk....befor it was bred for sweetness. Is not commercial, any skunk finishing in 10 weeks or less is what.....CUT!
real skunk will make a newbie puke...

Old school SK is not SK1 is it and you know this and SK had many different vereations of SK to from black SK as it was called that had a blue black color to it and a indica leafy look to the flower to the SK with the lite green with orange hair sativa looking flowers to dark green sat flowers with red hairs to the lite green with red hairs so SK had lines that threw very much to the sativa side and other SK lines that were more indica all stunk but the potency and type of affect veryed a lot from the batch or line of SK.

I have a few SK lines and not from seed banks ether cant tell you were there from as its not your concern but my best one indoors will produce 3 to 4 oz max ready in 8 weeks of flower out doors it grows and looks like a pure sativa but it will level you but i dont grow it any more as the smell is to bad its a danger.

SK was being imported here in the very early 80s when i saw it any way what i have not heard to many comment about the early SK lines is the smell they gave off when people smoked them which was an incense smell wounder why no one has ever sed this maybe they have only smoked dutch SK lines.

Your the guy with the 88 g13sk ? were did you get that from as Neville never offered it was first offered in test for in 2002 by shanti.

 

[champa]

Really ? Thia columbine and many more lines of old were commercial cannabis yes when there was no indoor growing and people from developed country's would travel to remote 3rd world locations and by large amounts of cannabis for cheep then smuggle it in to locations with good markets and make large profits that changed and so did the commercial cannabis market and the strains put to market.

SK1 is a dutch line tell me its not as it was developed and breed in Amsterdam the reason its used by commercial growers is because of its speed of flower bag appeal and yield its okay smoke wise but don't tell me its not commercial grade as it is stop with the silly arguments.

If Kali mist or other lines were as fast dont you think they be used as commercial cannabis it shits on sk1 lol but they dont they use SK1 home work for you to my friend.

You guys are insulting the British here if you think they think cheese SK1 is the best smoke its larfble and insulting.

hempy,

again you make generalizations, perhaps you are just set in your ways?

i think you will find that Thai and Colombian are still very typical commercial strains, what do you think they grow commercially in Thailand and Columbia? have you ever visited Thailand or Columbia? because both those weeds are still very much commercial strains in those countries

have you visited Amsterdam to experience the weed scene first hand? because if you have then again you'd be aware that Thai, Colombian, Jamaican bush weed are still very much commercial strains and their price on the menu's reflects that,

the offensive generalization you make is that anyone that grows sk#1 is either a commercial grower or clueless, you class sk#1 as a commercial strain, i class Jamaican, Colombian and Thai as commercial weed, would it be polite of me to label you a commercial grower or clueless? of course it wouldn't and it's pretty obvious that it would offend you hempy yet you don't seem to care who you offend with your blanket statements, it's unnecessary and anti-social

 

[hempy]

hempy,

again you make generalizations, perhaps you are just set in your ways?

i think you will find that Thai and Colombian are still very typical commercial strains, what do you think they grow commercially in Thailand and Columbia? have you ever visited Thailand or Columbia? because both those weeds are still very much commercial strains in those countries

have you visited Amsterdam to experience the weed scene first hand? because if you have then again you'd be aware that Thai, Colombian, Jamaican bush weed are still very much commercial strains and their price on the menu's reflects that,

the offensive generalization you make is that anyone that grows sk#1 is either a commercial grower or clueless, you class sk#1 as a commercial strain, i class Jamaican, Colombian and Thai as commercial weed, would it be polite of me to label you a commercial grower or clueless? of course it wouldn't and it's pretty obvious that it would offend you hempy yet you don't seem to care who you offend with your blanket statements, it's unnecessary and anti-social

champa with all do respect your know talking rubbish firstly SK1 and other dutch lines are grown right threw Jamaica and other locations now why because there fast go look for your self on youtube you mite even see a few familiar faces in them.

The large commercial grows of Asia and central Americas are gone long gone thanks to the DEA joint eradication operations do you think that in Thailand Now days you will see large commercial grows as it was once dream on the risk is to great even if you did pull it off then you have to get it to the market floors of America Europe it not easy now a days is it any way the Mexicans are flooding the American market and have for a long time.

In Europe you have Africa across the water places like Albania and so on doing there bit to so lets be realistic.

No i have not been to the dam but spoke to many that have and do go there regularly and i can inform you that what i am smoking is as good as the very best they have on offer or better and that's not being cocking just reporting what i was told and i must admit surprised me.

I would love to see the ships full of the old lines they once carried but its been over a long time.

How do you know these Thais and Jamaican lines sold in the dam are not being grown and coming from Spain you dont do you would be were i would expect them to be coming from.

 

[champa]

champa with all do respect your know talking rubbish firstly SK1 and other dutch lines are grown right threw Jamaica and other locations now why because there fast go look for your self on youtube you mite even see a few familiar faces in them.

The large commercial grows of Asia and central Americas are gone long gone thanks to the DEA joint eradication operations do you think that in Thailand Now days you will see large commercial grows as it was once dream on the risk is to great even if you did pull it off then you have to get it to the market floors of America Europe it not easy now a days is it any way the Mexicans are flooding the American market and have for a long time.

In Europe you have Africa across the water places like Albania and so on doing there bit to so lets be realistic.

No i have not been to the dam but spoke to many that have and do go there regularly and i can inform you that what i am smoking is as good as the very best they have on offer or better and that's not being cocking just reporting what i was told and i must admit surprised me.

I would love to see the ships full of the old lines they once carried but its been over a long time.

How do you know these Thais and Jamaican lines sold in the dam are not being grown and coming from Spain you dont do you would be were i would expect them to be coming from.

hempy,

how do you think you're being respectful telling someone they are talking rubbish? if you want others to respect you? why do you insist on behaving in this anti-social manner?

you didn't answer my question as to whether you have visited Thailand or Columbia so forgive me if it take your lack of response as a no to you having ever visited those countries

i've lived in asia, i've bought commercial weed in asia, i'm talking from first hand experience, i've also visited Amsterdam and i've seen how these commercial strains are regarded in the commercial cannabis scene

i'm not surprised you have been told your weed rates highly compared to other weeds, you put a lot of love and attention into your garden and have a connection with the plant, your grows show this, perhaps a different approach will let you see the point i'm trying to make, Thai weed is commercial weed, it's a favorite of mine for the flavor and high, you are not growing typical Thai weed, you are caring for your garden more than a commercial grower would and it shows in the end result, now there are many people out there who adore sk#1, they are not commercial growers or clueless, they enjoy smoking sk#1 and grow what they like, these growers are not typical commercial growers nor are they clueless yet with your blanket statements they are being classed as clueless or commercial growers, there's really no need for it

 

[hempy]

hempy,

how do you think you're being respectful telling someone they are talking rubbish? if you want others to respect you? why do you insist on behaving in this anti-social manner?

you didn't answer my question as to whether you have visited Thailand or Columbia so forgive me if it take your lack of response as a no to you having ever visited those countries

i've lived in asia, i've bought commercial weed in asia, i'm talking from first hand experience, i've also visited Amsterdam and i've seen how these commercial strains are regarded in the commercial cannabis scene

i'm not surprised you have been told your weed rates highly compared to other weeds, you put a lot of love and attention into your garden and have a connection with the plant, your grows show this, perhaps a different approach will let you see the point i'm trying to make, Thai weed is commercial weed, it's a favorite of mine for the flavor and high, you are not growing typical Thai weed, you are caring for your garden more than a commercial grower would and it shows in the end result, now there are many people out there who adore sk#1, they are not commercial growers or clueless, they enjoy smoking sk#1 and grow what they like, these growers are not typical commercial growers nor are they clueless yet with your blanket statements they are being classed as clueless or commercial growers, there's really no need for it

champa the reality of commercial growers is this the less they have to spend and less risk they need to be exposed to and the faster the crop can come in the better correct ?.

Now people into commercial cannabis that want to put a product onto the market seek to do it as cheaply as they can so they can get as much profit as they can dont you think if it was possible for Australian or Europeans or Americans to get hold of Thia or other quality lines for cheep as they once did as it would be a lot cheaper for them to pay a Thia farmer for there crops than set up rooms or to even set up remote grows in house they would in a hart bet but them days are over and have been for a long time mate.

I am not surprised there is a commercial market in Thailand still as they have a domestic market still but is it like it was once no its not or is it in south America and or is it in Jamaica there is also dutch lines grown there to as i bet there is in Thailand now also.

Do you know how i felt seeing nl and sk1 and other dutch lines growing in Jamaica were once they grew some of the worlds best sativas i felt gutted is how i felt its like they lost there identity.

No i have not been to Thailand my mate did and went often for work over a long period of time he smoked lots and even collected seed from his friend for me from the farmers who he got his smoke from but that's a lot different to the old days when tons and tons of it was grown and exported out.

Now you have choppers satellites drones planes customs and the rest to by pass not so easy why they have gone indoors and in house and did so a long time ago.

 

[champa]

champa the reality of commercial growers is this the less they have to spend and less risk they need to be exposed to and the faster the crop can come in the better correct ?.

Now people into commercial cannabis that want to put a product onto the market seek to do it as cheaply as they can so they can get as much profit as they can dont you think if it was possible for Australian or Europeans or Americans to get hold of Thia or other quality lines for cheep as they once did as it would be a lot cheaper for them to pay a Thia farmer for there crops than set up rooms or to even set up remote grows in house they would in a hart bet but them days are over and have been for a long time mate.

I am not surprised there is a commercial market in Thailand still as they have a domestic market still but is it like it was once no its not or is it in south America and or is it in Jamaica there is also dutch lines grown there to as i bet there is in Thailand now also.

Do you know how i felt seeing nl and sk1 and other dutch lines growing in Jamaica were once they grew some of the worlds best sativas i felt gutted is how i felt its like they lost there identity.

No i have not been to Thailand my mate did and went often for work over a long period of time he smoked lots and even collected seed from his friend for me from the farmers who he got his smoke from but that's a lot different to the old days when tons and tons of it was grown and exported out.

Now you have choppers satellites drones planes customs and the rest to by pass not so easy why they have gone indoors and in house and did so a long time ago.

hempy,

i understand your point about commercial growers but you are just making generalizations and being that you are so close to the scene it's hard to understand why you're making them?

Jamaican still exists in Jamaica, Colombian still exists in Columbia, i could continue but i think you get where i'm going? there are other varieties imported into the countries as well and farmers will accept gifts but farmers grow to live, be it rice, rubber trees, fruit or ganja, to suggest that these farmers living in tough conditions with a family depending on them and no financial help from their governments will just drop their bread and butter strains on a whim and a free gift from some foreigner is far fetched, i mean if i sent you some seed and said this is the best ever, would you just cull all your plants that have looked after you for years and grow my unknown seeds? this isn't a fairy tale

there's a degree of truth in what you say but there's a lot of sweeping statements and assumptions, unless you've been to asia you'll never realise how things work mate and all the hearsay and reading on the internet will never prepare you, in some parts corruption is rife and accepted, it's not unknown for ganja op's being the property of the local law or army, yeah there's some poor farmer doing all the labour and getting a wage but he's not living the life, these op's are still ongoing, money is power and commercial weed is rife, you think the police are going to arrest the police? occasionally you get the headline grabber where the big boys from Bangkok would be involved in arrests but usually thats's because somebody somewhere didn't get paid

i have friends that have been in Thailand since nam, they have fallen in love with the region and the Thai is a great medicine and is so easily available, there's always been good crops and bad crops, it's outdoor growing but the quality of Thai is still up there

the big imports have stopped because there is more risk involved and the costs are higher but the weed is still being exported and it's still commercial weed and the prices reflect it

do you seriously think a Spanish or european grower is going to grow weed that will take twice as long to bloom and could potentially pollinate his other fields and for a product that is then going to sell cheaply on the menu's in Amsterdam? never mate

i've also stayed in the ganja growing regions of Spain in the mountains, amongst the orange groves, almond trees and olive trees so i'm aware of the Spanish scene, there's no way a farmer would grow a strain that will take twice as long to bloom for less money than another variety that the farmer could have grown, see that's commercial weed and with respect that's how it works mate, when the varieties are being sold cheaply on the menu's that reflects the perceived demand, quality and price that has been paid, so when it's sold cheaply it was bought cheaply, you can buy paving slabbed sized kilos of Thai weed for £100-£200 in Thailand, that's not a bulk price, therefore the weeds that are being sold in the menu's in Amsterdam are for more likely to still being imported from asia than they are from anywhere else in europe, the price makes it clear, it's commercial weed hempy, it's a commercial game unless you're suggesting some random grower in Spain was handed the short straw and told he can only grow the cheapo weed that takes twice as long to mature for pennies profit, while all the other growers in Spain get to grow the big money commercial strains and get the big profits?

and it's not to big a leap to suggest the same is happening with other global bush imports-Jamaican/Colombian etc

 

[spiritualyEnhanced]

Old school SK is not SK1 is it and you know this and SK had many different vereations of SK to from black SK as it was called that had a blue black color to it and a indica leafy look to the flower to the SK with the lite green with orange hair sativa looking flowers to dark green sat flowers with red hairs to the lite green with red hairs so SK had lines that threw very much to the sativa side and other SK lines that were more indica all stunk but the potency and type of affect veryed a lot from the batch or line of SK.

I have a few SK lines and not from seed banks ether cant tell you were there from as its not your concern but my best one indoors will produce 3 to 4 oz max ready in 8 weeks of flower out doors it grows and looks like a pure sativa but it will level you but i dont grow it any more as the smell is to bad its a danger.

SK was being imported here in the very early 80s when i saw it any way what i have not heard to many comment about the early SK lines is the smell they gave off when people smoked them which was an incense smell wounder why no one has ever sed this maybe they have only smoked dutch SK lines.

Your the guy with the 88 g13sk ? were did you get that from as Neville never offered it was first offered in test for in 2002 by shanti.

some old guy throwing shit out of his garrage..
read my bullrider thread.
hell my 88 may not be....????hahhahaha

 

[spiritualyEnhanced]

Old school SK is not SK1 is it and you know this and SK had many different vereations of SK to from black SK as it was called that had a blue black color to it and a indica leafy look to the flower to the SK with the lite green with orange hair sativa looking flowers to dark green sat flowers with red hairs to the lite green with red hairs so SK had lines that threw very much to the sativa side and other SK lines that were more indica all stunk but the potency and type of affect veryed a lot from the batch or line of SK.

I have a few SK lines and not from seed banks ether cant tell you were there from as its not your concern but my best one indoors will produce 3 to 4 oz max ready in 8 weeks of flower out doors it grows and looks like a pure sativa but it will level you but i dont grow it any more as the smell is to bad its a danger.

SK was being imported here in the very early 80s when i saw it any way what i have not heard to many comment about the early SK lines is the smell they gave off when people smoked them which was an incense smell wounder why no one has ever sed this maybe they have only smoked dutch SK lines.

Your the guy with the 88 g13sk ? were did you get that from as Neville never offered it was first offered in test for in 2002 by shanti.

and he did for one year. you had to pay full price for them no matter how many you order.I thought i may have beenn fed lies...maybe not....

and this is what sucks with hear say you even half to question yourself when other throw rocks..
I want to say this.
this is the reason I have carried on with my own work for so long to much confusion out there with name changing.
when i id my traits and id my species as far as time to mature and smell, high all the other shit. its easy to know.
when I fly away for vacation and aquire seeds from some foriegn land I know.
and if it is worthy i work with it.

 

[bigwity]

hempy if youve never been to the dam how do you know your bud your smoking is better than the stuff there, you have nothing to compare to. sorry i had to get that in there.

 

[Double Zero]

I've been to the dam a few times and i have to say the green i grow in the UK is much better than what i smoked out there, my Jack Herer is over 10 years old and i have never come across a Trainwreck over there as strong as the Arcata Cut i have got, to be honest i think it is not always about the genes of the plant but also about the grower

Just my 2 pence worth

 

[hempy]

Honestly its become retarded to try and get a point across in here and that is that cheese sk1 is commercial cannabis and nothing more.

spiritualyEnhanced i have the g13/sk from 2002 test seed and the only reason i know this is fact i research all lines i grow the g13 lines Neville did release back then was the nlxg13 and hpxg13 and hzxg13.

bigwity i know from lots of people as there friends and have smoked my harvests and sampled lots in the dam from the mid 80s to resent times one mate even smuggled back 7 or 9 oz of the dams best hash and LSD the hash was ok nothing special we had better here coming out of Asia at the time.


champa Spain is a large place so you dont know what is being grown in every part of Spain or Europe Albanian gangs from what i am told do a lot of commercial grows mate not like there country's not third world or full of corruption mate and why would there other crops be affected Thais i have grown have never Hermie once the plants were sexed as females or males the only time i ever sore hermaphrodites in Thais or any sativa lines were at sexing.

I my self believe that lines of old are still being grown in these places as they are still here to but there not being grown in the numbers they were once or by the number of people they were once and that's fact.

When your talking commercial grows and exports that is a very different ball game i am not a commercial grower or ever have been i grow for my personal but to grow commercial numbers you need lots of plants so are you telling me that there are farmers in Thailand that are growing 1000s and 1000s of plants for over seas markets i dont think they are if they were i would of seen it and it would be here as commercial cannabis to as the commercial market here has a large Asian gang aspect to it as it did in Canada.

And ow markets are a lot closer than what Europe's market is you want to know who has the largest market look no further than the US and Thia or old school columbine cannabis would be snapped up real fast both there and here if it was available as you say.

Internal markets is very very different to export markets.

 

[nutella]

Honestly its become retarded to try and get a point across in here and that is that cheese sk1 is commercial cannabis and nothing more.

hempy/rambo you were first trying to get your point across that cheese is nothing more than sk1 which people agreed with, it was a certain pheno of sk1 which got a nickname cheese but it was a sk1, but now your saying m8 its cheese sk1 commercial cannabis, hempy you aint even smoked the cheese pheno of sk1, i can assure you if it was a commercial strain it would not be sold for top money in the amsterdam coffeeshops, and were talking about the cheese pheno of sk1 hempy, and tbh commercial growers would rather grow anything but cheese as it stinks so bad, they would rather get a crop in and out, no fucking about, but they would be taking some fucking chance hempy growing a room full of cheese, they want to get a crop down hempy without any worrys, growing a room full of cheese or a commercial grow of cheese would be jailbait, they know this as well hempy, thats why they dont do it, its a very popular strain ( cheese ) but i would not say it was a commercial strain, need balls of steel and your head look at to be doing a commercial grow of cheese hempy, and its cheese this thread is about, a certain pheno of sk#1 .

as i said before, take the war paint off rambo lol, you dont do yourself any favors hempy as its not like you were saying at the start of this thread its a commercial strain, just added that part in once every1 agreed that it was a certain pheno of sk#1 , hempy the fire starter

 

[hempy]

hempy/rambo you were first trying to get your point across that cheese is nothing more than sk1 which people agreed with, it was a certain pheno of sk1 which got a nickname cheese but it was a sk1, but now your saying m8 its cheese sk1 commercial cannabis, hempy you aint even smoked the cheese pheno of sk1, i can assure you if it was a commercial strain it would not be sold for top money in the amsterdam coffeeshops, and were talking about the cheese pheno of sk1 hempy, and tbh commercial growers would rather grow anything but cheese as it stinks so bad, they would rather get a crop in and out, no fucking about, but they would be taking some fucking chance hempy growing a room full of cheese, they want to get a crop down hempy without any worrys, growing a room full of cheese or a commercial grow of cheese would be jailbait, they know this as well hempy, thats why they dont do it, its a very popular strain ( cheese ) but i would not say it was a commercial strain, need balls of steel and your head look at to be doing a commercial grow of cheese hempy, and its cheese this thread is about, a certain pheno of sk#1 .

as i said before, take the war paint off rambo lol, you dont do yourself any favors hempy as its not like you were saying at the start of this thread its a commercial strain, just added that part in once every1 agreed that it was a certain pheno of sk#1 , hempy the fire starter

Nutella come on mate lets be honest here lots that go to the dam have not even smoked before they go and get high for the first time and often the last time swag would get them off right lol.

SK1 is a commercial line its used in hybrids for a reason that is to add speed of flowering and yield.

I am not saying sk1 is shit but it is not quality ether is it you cant compare it to other lines like ssh or mango or kali mist or even the widow there are many many lines available on line or in the dam that are much better and we all know this that is not even worth arguing over is it.
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The UK commercial market is mostly what ? sk1 cheese right why is there no Kali mist or haze hybrids because they take longer or dont have the bag appeal of sk1 but they sure smoke better.

The widow stinks to and has good bag appeal a selected plant will level you yet it yields much less than a SK1 would and takes 2 or more weeks longer to flower that's why its not commercial weed.

The ward commercial dont me that it will be week smoke it just means its whats being sold in large volumes to the market and what every ones getting from there pot dealer and is available so faster with bag appeal that smokes good is what they run as long as they get rid of it there happy they dont care as personal med users do for the very best they can find.

 

[Hemphrey Bogart]

Old school SK is not SK1 is it and you know this and SK had many different vereations of SK to from black SK as it was called that had a blue black color to it and a indica leafy look to the flower to the SK with the lite green with orange hair sativa looking flowers to dark green sat flowers with red hairs to the lite green with red hairs so SK had lines that threw very much to the sativa side and other SK lines that were more indica all stunk but the potency and type of affect veryed a lot from the batch or line of SK.

The above is 100% absolutely correct.

Here out west, my friends and I started to see skunk bud....around....1983-4??? Not exact on that date, it may have been a bit earlier or later than that range, but not by much.

Before that time period, I was smoking imported columbian, mexican, and thai mostly for 5 bucks a gram. Some of the bags had seeds in it, and stems too. Once in a while something good would come through like some chocolate thai, but for the most part it was subpar smoke. Probably grown in Mexico. The good stuff stopped coming in quantity in the late late 70s early 80s. The quality had gone WAAAAAAY down by then, or they just weren't being grown right, or damaged in transit, or all of the above. Then, skunk came along and changed everything.

The skunk I was smoking in the 80's came straight from mendo and trinity and every year it was different. Some almost black they were so purple. Some lime green with orange/red hairs, just as hempy describes. Those lime green buds were my favorite at the time....Big buds, covered in crystals with a smell that couldn't be tamed with a ziplock or anything else.

HB.

 

[spiritualyEnhanced]

Honestly its become retarded to try and get a point across in here and that is that cheese sk1 is commercial cannabis and nothing more.

spiritualyEnhanced i have the g13/sk from 2002 test seed and the only reason i know this is fact i research all lines i grow the g13 lines Neville did release back then was the nlxg13 and hpxg13 and hzxg13.

it seems your confused....there was never a g13 male !!!!!!

 

[spiritualyEnhanced]

Nutella come on mate lets be honest here lots that go to the dam have not even smoked before they go and get high for the first time and often the last time swag would get them off right lol.

"SK1 is a commercial line its used in hybrids for a reason that is to add speed of flowering and yield."

this blows my mind



your a clown man....
maybe the dutch pheno... here in america shit takes time. but that is because we still have real skunk.
the yeild they would get out of it is from its ancestors....sativa, the old school creeper pheno youd love to find. more than likely diluted is all you have seen if thats what you think about the original line of skunk.

 

[hempy]

Honestly its become retarded to try and get a point across in here and that is that cheese sk1 is commercial cannabis and nothing more.

spiritualyEnhanced i have the g13/sk from 2002 test seed and the only reason i know this is fact i research all lines i grow the g13 lines Neville did release back then was the nlxg13 and hpxg13 and hzxg13.

it seems your confused....there was never a g13 male !!!!!!

Well you must be special then as it was not available back in 88 as you claim and i am not confused as i know very well there was no g13 male it was a female clone.

Hate to brake it to you friend but your not special as like me many others also have the G13xSK is that better i put the SK male last lol.

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"SK1 is a commercial line its used in hybrids for a reason that is to add speed of flowering and yield."

this blows my mind



your a clown man....
maybe the dutch pheno... here in america shit takes time. but that is because we still have real skunk.
the yeild they would get out of it is from its ancestors....sativa, the old school creeper pheno youd love to find. more than likely diluted is all you have seen if thats what you think about the original line of skunk.

Now the insults start i am a clown lol.

Would i be wrong in saying your full of it ? I dont think i would be in fact i feel i would be justified in saying just that but i wont i will remain nice and humble so this old school creeper phino ha what lot of SK was that from do tell i am sure many are weighting your expert opinion on this lol.

SK1 is nothing like the old SK lines i saw in the early 80s i just described what i saw and Hemphrey Bogart who is American saw the same as i did and he was seeing it direct from Cali so who is talking porky pies here and who is telling the truth of what they saw and rember here the jury is out tea and bickys till they come back with there verdict lol.

 

[joshuahazen]

Seems people are getting a bit confused.

Skunk #1
and California Skunk

are two entirely different animals.

California Skunk comes from many different sources, and with many different pedigrees, and they smell like a dead skunk (hence their name). Most of them are predominantly Indica.

Skunk #1, all comes from the same source, Sam S, it was made famous by the Seedbank, and is a very diverse, predominantly sativa polyhybrid, and does not smell like a dead skunk for the most part, usually it has a very sweet candy type of smell which is in many cases, overwhelming.


So for those of you who do don't seem to get it, When people say Sk1, they are referring to the specific strain Skunk #1, which is now many sub strains from the same source(ie cheese), and not anything else.

Hempy is right, Skunk 1's application and use is primarily commercial, And it has dominated the commercial indoor grow scene in its many different forms for decades. Anyone who does not know this needs to take dope 101, because this shit is beyond basic.

 

[champa]

Honestly its become retarded to try and get a point across in here and that is that cheese sk1 is commercial cannabis and nothing more.

spiritualyEnhanced i have the g13/sk from 2002 test seed and the only reason i know this is fact i research all lines i grow the g13 lines Neville did release back then was the nlxg13 and hpxg13 and hzxg13.

bigwity i know from lots of people as there friends and have smoked my harvests and sampled lots in the dam from the mid 80s to resent times one mate even smuggled back 7 or 9 oz of the dams best hash and LSD the hash was ok nothing special we had better here coming out of Asia at the time.


champa Spain is a large place so you dont know what is being grown in every part of Spain or Europe Albanian gangs from what i am told do a lot of commercial grows mate not like there country's not third world or full of corruption mate and why would there other crops be affected Thais i have grown have never Hermie once the plants were sexed as females or males the only time i ever sore hermaphrodites in Thais or any sativa lines were at sexing.

I my self believe that lines of old are still being grown in these places as they are still here to but there not being grown in the numbers they were once or by the number of people they were once and that's fact.

When your talking commercial grows and exports that is a very different ball game i am not a commercial grower or ever have been i grow for my personal but to grow commercial numbers you need lots of plants so are you telling me that there are farmers in Thailand that are growing 1000s and 1000s of plants for over seas markets i dont think they are if they were i would of seen it and it would be here as commercial cannabis to as the commercial market here has a large Asian gang aspect to it as it did in Canada.

And ow markets are a lot closer than what Europe's market is you want to know who has the largest market look no further than the US and Thia or old school columbine cannabis would be snapped up real fast both there and here if it was available as you say.

Internal markets is very very different to export markets.

hempy,

i have tried to be as clear and concise with my posting, i even gave you examples of your Thai, Colombian, Jamaican being regarded as commercial weeds, selling for cheap commercial prices and still being grown in their country of origin, i gave you a clear example of why European growers would not grow Thai weed, it sells too cheaply on the menu's in Amsterdam and commercial growers aren't stupid, why do you think they are growing weed hempy? its for money mate, so you think a commercial grower will turn his nose up at 100,000 euro for half the flowering times that it would take for a crop that he could sell for 20,000 euro, never in a million years and you're clutching at straws,

bush weed is seeded, that how you got it hempy, otherwise you'd have no seed to work with, so the lines either self seed or cross pollinate without selection, for an outdoor grower in Europe that is the last thing you'd want, especially if you are growing other varieties as many others do, every example of bushweed on the menu's in dam is seeded, if you buy bushweed in the country of origin it will be seeded, i've friends that have been in Thailand for decades, i've lived there myself, sometimes there's more seeds than others but the commercial weed is always seeded

see what you base a lot of you assumptions on is third hand knowledge hempy, i've been to these regions, i've witnessed it myself, i'm explaining with clear logic as to why what you are suggesting is highly unlikely and improbable but you still fail to acknowledge it, Spain is a large country hempy, but the area i stayed in is one of the most prominent canna areas with some of the best farmers in Spain with some of the best growing conditions and open spaces, a lot of Spain isn't like that

commercial grows are still happening in big numbers hempy, you don't know about them that's all, if you did they'd get bust and that's probably the only time you do hear about them

you have got all defensive with the possible connection between you and a commercial grower, why is that hempy? you don't care who you label as a commercial grower, it seems to be anyone that grows 4 plants of sk#1 or cheese is a commercial grower in your eyes and that's the point i've been trying to make to you, you are offensive with your generalizations and there's no need mate, you don't like it being implied that you are a commercial grower just because you grow a certain strain so why not treat others as you wish to be treated and stop with the generalizations, assumptions and accusations

global markets are still working hempy, things are more difficult with customs but they are still working, a lot of the bush weed that used to hit the uk and other parts isn't as in demand anymore, if a young smoker/grower had the choice between a bag of unseeded white widow or some seeded bush import they would take the unseeded bud 9/10 therefore the weed goes to other shores, you'll find a lot of it is split up and arrives on the islands in the med among other countries, it's easier to sell to tourist holiday makers than it is to sell to locals...again this weed isn't grown in Europe, commercial growers wouldn't waste time growing bushweed when they can grow quicker varieties for bigger profits