Would you use a male from feminized seed?

[BrotherBoris]

The thing with auto flowers is that they are all a cross with a Rudellis (sp) and they have absolutely no potency so even the best types will be severely watered down potency wise. Nature must have had a reason to have them only appear far away from the other two types.

 

[Diesel840]

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Nature must have had a reason to have them only appear far away from the other two types.

Are we sure it was by natures design, or were our ancestors responsible for drug cultivars being stronger than Ruderalis?

Even the landraces of old, had been worked for countless generations. Human kind, have had a role in the evolution of Cannabis for thoughsands of years.

As far as I am aware, Ruderalis doesn't grow anywhere near traditional hotspots for landrace genetics, and evolved in an inhospitable environment away from much of our ancestors.

Perhaps, we didn't play a big enough role in bringing out it's ability to be used as a drug cultivar, until recently. Even super potent drug varieties will inevitably become "watered down" and lose many of the attributes we cherish, when they go feral and are left to grow wild without human intervention.

Don't get me wrong. If one is playing with auto/Ruderalis genetics, they should definitely pay close attention to their breeding, as not to double up on negative traits; such as low potentcy or cannabinoids.

Diesel840

 

[longball]

"The thing with auto flowers is that they are all a cross with a Rudellis (sp) and they have absolutely no potency so even the best types will be severely watered down potency wise."


Autoflower 24+% THC

https://mrnice.nl/forum/threads/hel...s-i-love-old-school-haze-“piff”.17744/page-12



Everyone who smokes this Autoflower I grew gets VERY high off of it. I'm won't waste my time growing if I ain't going to get high off of it! I'd be stupider than I look! Do you really believe that Shantibaba makes and sells Autoflowers that don't get you high?



Longball

 

[Diesel840]

@longball Those are some beautiful flowers. Looks like the bloody skunk that Mr. Canuck grew on his youtube channel a few years back.

I'm a firm believer in the entourage effect. Even if thc levels were a bit lower, if the desired cannibinoids and terps are retained the percieved potentcy should still be very intense.

Diesel840

 

[BrotherBoris]

"The thing with auto flowers is that they are all a cross with a Rudellis (sp) and they have absolutely no potency so even the best types will be severely watered down potency wise."


Autoflower 24+% THC

https://mrnice.nl/forum/threads/hello-everyone-i’m-bobberr-i’ve-been-working-with-autoflower-genetics-i-love-learning-all-things-cannabis-i-love-old-school-haze-“piff”.17744/page-12

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Everyone who smokes this Autoflower I grew gets VERY high off of it. I'm won't waste my time growing if I ain't going to get high off of it! I'd be stupider than I look! Do you really believe that Shantibaba makes and sells Autoflowers that don't get you high?

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Longball

Had no idea he does autos and maybe I need to investigate further. Just never seemed that good to me but never looked into it.

 

[BrotherBoris]

Did a search on site and no results for auto flower seeds. Let me know where I can find what he has to offer and has created.

"The thing with auto flowers is that they are all a cross with a Rudellis (sp) and they have absolutely no potency so even the best types will be severely watered down potency wise."


Autoflower 24+% THC

https://mrnice.nl/forum/threads/hello-everyone-i’m-bobberr-i’ve-been-working-with-autoflower-genetics-i-love-learning-all-things-cannabis-i-love-old-school-haze-“piff”.17744/page-12

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Everyone who smokes this Autoflower I grew gets VERY high off of it. I'm won't waste my time growing if I ain't going to get high off of it! I'd be stupider than I look! Do you really believe that Shantibaba makes and sells Autoflowers that don't get you high?

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Longball

Kindly direct me to the right place but am only interested in MNS auto flower and not something made for someone else. I Will keep looking. Still getting used to new looks and ways of updated site here. update: Just read that new USA site will sell auto flower but nothing there at this time Either. Maybe they will be offered in the future but appears probably under White Label which is making seeds for someone else using their genetics and not something created by Sb. i may be wrong, just no info on any MNS auto flower. I would be interested only in something created by Sb. I’m an old guy and maybe too set in my ways but I’ll stay with the old photo period guided flowering varieties unless like I said Sb has come up with something special. I don’t believe what I don’t see. I also don’t believe most other websites. Lots of false info just to promote sales and with exaggerated thc levels. Same as with the dispensaries. Have yet to get something even close to what I used to have from MNS grown genetics. Thanks.

 

[Apollo]

The thing with auto flowers is that they are all a cross with a Rudellis (sp) and they have absolutely no potency so even the best types will be severely watered down potency wise. Nature must have had a reason to have them only appear far away from the other two types.

The think is that is not one way road or black and White .
If you follow up the history of the plant Nevil made crossings with ruberallis and Haze and come out good .
I will not name the seeds banks but they are more than one specialised company's in autos and their THC levels are crazy.
Nature the mother breeder developed the autos accordingly to her understanding and they are in many places in this world .

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Are we sure it was by natures design, or were our ancestors responsible for drug cultivars being stronger than Ruderalis?

Even the landraces of old, had been worked for countless generations. Human kind, have had a role in the evolution of Cannabis for thoughsands of years.

As far as I am aware, Ruderalis doesn't grow anywhere near traditional hotspots for landrace genetics, and evolved in an inhospitable environment away from much of our ancestors.

Perhaps, we didn't play a big enough role in bringing out it's ability to be used as a drug cultivar, until recently. Even super potent drug varieties will inevitably become "watered down" and lose many of the attributes we cherish, when they go feral and are left to grow wild without human intervention.

Don't get me wrong. If one is playing with auto/Ruderalis genetics, they should definitely pay close attention to their breeding, as not to double up on negative traits; such as low potentcy or cannabinoids.

Diesel840

There are many cases of auto flowers strains in nature landraces .
Mexican ruby
You can find afganis with auto traits .
Iranian varieties have a auto flowering and few others to.
I hope this helps


-SaveTheBrains

 

[Diesel840]

Doe

There are many cases of auto flowers strains in nature landraces .
Mexican ruby
You can find afganis with auto traits .
Iranian varieties have a auto flowering and few others to.
I hope this helps


-SaveTheBrains

Doesn't surprise me. Just becuase they are uncommon, doesn't mean they don't exist. Just supports my suspicions that drug quality Ruderalis simply hasn't been worked as much, traditionally.

Diesel840

 

[BrotherBoris]

Well, this seems like something that I need to look into then. Sometimes old dogs need to learn new tricks. I’ve always been skeptical but maybe it’s time for me to try something different. Only thing for me is that I’m a huge fan of MNS and like what I like but may try an auto from White once they are available at the new site.

 

[longball]

@Diesel840 said: "@longball Those are some beautiful flowers"

Thank you, Diesel840!

"Looks like the bloody skunk that Mr. Canuck grew on his youtube channel a few years back"

When I had decided to start growing medicine, I watched Mr. Canuck video’s all winter to learn. The first grow, using all I learned from Mr. Canuck, looked like I’d been a Master Grower for as long as anyone could remember(no one could remember). I never watched Mr. Canuck again. I knew how to grow thanks to Mr. Canuck. The rest I would need to learn on my own. I never did learn anything more, so I joined Mr. Nice Forum! I certainly owe the Debt of Gratitude to Mr. Canuck for steering me in a most excellent direction for growing. Thank you, Mr. Canuck!

"I'm a firm believer in the entourage effect"

So am I. And my Medical Marijuana Doctor is positive of it. He is the first person to explain it to me and tell why it is important for me to know this. I think it has been proven, but if not, there is certainly anecdotal evidence for it. I had grown some medicine that everyone raved about the high. They said it was much better than 26-30% medicine from a legal dispensary. My medicine tested out at 18%! How could 18% be ‘stronger’ than 30%? Entourage effect? It may not have been stronger but you got Higher? Is that even a word?

Longball

 

[Diesel840]

I had grown some medicine that everyone raved about the high. They said it was much better than 26-30% medicine from a legal dispensary. My medicine tested out at 18%! How could 18% be ‘stronger’ than 30%? Entourage effect? It may not have been stronger but you got Higher? Is that even a word?

In my personal experience, bland terps = bland medicine. Whether recreational for the high or medical for the body and soul.

I'm sure most would agree that "loud" chemovars nearly always deliver on the effect. If I can smell it from across the house, then it hits.

Besides, most dispensaries inflate their thc%. I've had family members rave about buying flower in dispenseries which have supposed levels of thc, as high as 36%.

Come on. We all know it is maybe, half as high of a thc% than what they listed.

@longball i'm glad you found Mr. Canucks videos useful and even more happy you found a doctor who understands your needs.

Diesel840

 

[Jason]

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpls.2020.00718/full

This article also has electron microscope photos of male parts. Here's a quote...

"In the present study, we observed spontaneous formation of hermaphroditic flowers on 5–10% of plants of three different strains of marijuana grown indoors under commercial conditions. In most cases, small clusters of anthers developed within certain female flowers, replacing the pistil. In rare cases (two out of 1,000 plants), the entire female inflorescence was displaced by large numbers of clusters of anthers instead of pistils (Figure 3). The factors which trigger this change in phenotype have not been extensively researched."


Figure 3...

 

[quinxstar]

this years i have 3 tropicomango(fem) girl X jamaicangrape male (regular) for the moment no banana

 

[quinxstar]

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpls.2020.00718/full

This article also has electron microscope photos of male parts. Here's a quote...

"In the present study, we observed spontaneous formation of hermaphroditic flowers on 5–10% of plants of three different strains of marijuana grown indoors under commercial conditions. In most cases, small clusters of anthers developed within certain female flowers, replacing the pistil. In rare cases (two out of 1,000 plants), the entire female inflorescence was displaced by large numbers of clusters of anthers instead of pistils (Figure 3). The factors which trigger this change in phenotype have not been extensively researched."


Figure 3...

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is it indoor or outdoor because artificial light increase the % of hermaphrodism
a plant who are to mature can turn herma also

 

[longball]

Gender Issues

We were sitting around the dinner table chatting when she they said she they were no longer female. I suppose everyone has the right to be whatever sex they want to be that day. Being too old, and too old school, I said, not while you are living under my roof in my garden. And then in a fit of murderous rage, I offed her them. I plead guilty, Your Excellency. And I have No Regerts!





Longball

 

[musashi]

Use that rootball lol!

mu

 

[longball]

Already done!



Longball