The Haze Brothers ?

[coop]

you call everyone a nasty little piece of work

That quote there was from the time you and JessE starting gangin up on me.
Our mutual friend in question and the info I had on you was shitty seed story.

You told elmer not to be friends with me, he prob told you to suck a lemon, so he made your enemies list too.

Just tell it like it is, your 20 years older then me, time you start acting 20 years older not 10 years younger.

I told you then you picked on the wrong person. And now the whole canna-community really knows what your about. Did you guys forget after all that harrasing how I deleted all my posts and now you say I've never grown, or any MNS gear for that matter? Remember when I told you I was here becouse my mother in law has MS? Now your the one that grows for "meds"
I fucking love it.

The two of you are so deranged, i should'nt even be wasting my time with you anymore, But you continue to insult characters, so your names will come out muddy.



Hempy if we go you go to, REMEMBER THAT ASSHAT.
And for the record JessE is not average joe cannabis grower. You would not concern yourself with bullshit articles and getting published in magazines if you did not have an alter motive.

 

[biteme]

this is getting pretty wild and i don't know if i should post in this thread or not, but since i have something to say about haze only i suppose i won't lose me head?

i live in the midwest usa at about 41 degrees and i will be the first to state i have serious doubts about nevils haze finishing at this latitude as the problem i have witnessed time and again is not so much the length of flower time but rather the fact that this one triggers into flowering very late as well. this is one statement of facts. and we are speaking only of nevils haze.

and then several pages back coop said something about altering normal growth patterns and then another raised the question of whether this is an apples to apples comparison which made me stop and think. what are the parameters of this challenge? or did i miss reading them awhile back? i believe it would be extremely difficult to start a seed, even set a seed plant out, at 40 degrees and expect it to finish naturally however, i am certainly able to initiate flowering on a plant, not even go that far but have a large female awaiting, but in any event have her finish flowering outdoors.

that was a mouthful for one sentence. lol. but it stated both sides of this equation as i see it. or maybe not? peace-biteme

 

[coop]

Nice post biteme

I can say this from the pix i saw. They where in a pot in someones back yard.


Also to note about flowering times. In marijuana botany in one of the pictures theres a note about some thai seed. It says starts flowering in sept amd was done mid november.

 

[bigherb]

Biteme

Much respect my brother,we have spoke at lengths on other subjects an i always love to hear your opinion

I understand the suspecion/ questioning /doubt

Remember only Sams knows what were the parents in the haze stock Nevil Recieved .Now its fact nevil has admitted from his experience that they were not pure ,Which many of you seem to forget .There are several post on it i have posted several times an its been mentioned by others.

With this info compiled ,the latest accu weather calendar from last year ,testimony from 2 members of seeing pics ,the addition of the NL5 8 week flowering afghan parent ,there is a bit more than just a haze plant in snow in cyber land


Another post many seem to forget ,which is evidence of short flowering phenos

Resin bud

Hello Everyone ! I am happy for the many comments about this NH grow log I have been receiving from you all, Chana Masala, or Uncle? I probably am as you say and thanks. The dream is real and love to share, very carefully. Harvest for # 3 was 19 weeks, and could have went longer, possibly 22 wks? by seed? maybe even 24wks till done? The trichomes were clear at 19 wks and just starting to cloud up? This pheno #9 NH was just Harvested at 8 wks, with 2/1/2 weeks for total stretch of 3/4, and I just harvested approximately 1/1/2 pounds WET! and very amazed with this harvest, and is truly amazing for such a short flowering cycle. The main reason for the Harvest at 8 wks was do to Tropical Fruit Flies. They lay multiple eggs everyday on the plant and you get an infestation! So I chopped Her down today? but was supposed to be taken down at 9 weeks?OH

Post on Ohaze x skunk
Dr purpur

She made it through the extended sub freezing temps and the heavy rain storms. Here She is today. probably 2-3 oz on the plant still Hope She has a tangy taste

post on thunk below

Bluegrasstoker

I've grown it, Scrappy. I have had it both indoors and out. It is a very, very sativa dominant plant. Expect to see it finish end of Oct/start of Nov ~37N. It can handle getting a bit of frost and will keep thriving until temps get just above freezing.

We have been threw this before ,but i will add again .i Dont lie ever an wateva i have posted has been dead on the truth of my experience .

My first season Nevilles haze started flowering around the first week of septemeber Was chopped 11/11,i thought she could have gone few days more but she was full an mature wat id call a Nl5 leaning pheno (i only brought her in becauseo of rain for the next few days) .especially when compared to my next season neville haze foxtail pheno (which an uncle told me was reminescent of the thai of yesteryear he smoked) I reported seeing sex the 8/9 (so it was few days prior) an reported the flowering intiated 9/15 soo it was again afew days prior ,now that amkes sense since this pheno was Haze dom n dubbed foxtail pheno.This pheno was chopped 11/7 an i thought she looked abit more mature than the first grow i know sounds stupid or crazy .

Im done with repeating my story ,this isnt somthin i go around doin .i hav said im not very experieneced an reported on all of 3 haze strains n a few other plants .This has come up upon my being poked n harassment

what i will say is i encourage folk who wish to grow nevilles haze to do soo (NYERS/others).BUY a pack dont plant all teh seeds outside do one or just simply , Clone the plant confirm a female put her outside the start of your season .see for yourself what may come about .but that equator talk is BS (no disrespect) it where she may flourish but not the only place she'll survive


I hope we can return to the haze bros discussion

1luvbigherb

 

[kashrocks]

I hope we can return to the haze bros discussion

1luvbigherb

This discussion will get you nowhere since it has been established for a long time now that no one responsible for the creation of the Haze has really ever carried that knickname.

It is like beating a dead horse...

Peace.

K.

 

[nutella]

What exactly is this forum coming too? Hell nobody said shit to Elmer and Coop when private information was being threatened to be posted as well. And it looks like very few blow the whistle when Bigherb and others make the post that they do above and similar. Ive seen members defending fraudulent grow reports, not standing up when private information is threatened to be posted

Its a sad time for this forum where bullshitters are supported, and those fighting for some truth and honesty are lectured.

What else should we expect from someone who threatened to post private information publicly?

Unbelievable.

what i find unbelievable is you can hit out with all this and sit back and not say a fucking thing when it was nev posting up the private info, or is the only reason your saying something now is because its your m8 ( hempy ) your sticking up for, when it was happening to jf was that ok because he was not your m8???, he was not fucking my m8 but i still took some amount of shit from nearly every1 for speaking out when i know something is not right, and you can say all this but sit back and say fuck all when it was happening with nev, as i said before, maybe say something when its not happening to your m8's that way it wont look like your just sticking up for your m8's as if you felt that strongly about it why sit back and say nothing when it was nev???

not standing up when private information is threatened to be posted

so how come you took a back seat a little while ago when it was nev but now you feel the need to stand up and be counted, thats the thing about me, if i dont see something that is right i will say something, dont matter who the fuck it is, m8 or not, as you know as well as me jesee that private info should not be posted, but you sit back and say fuck all about it not that long ago, fucking shame on you

 

[JessE]

Nutella,
You can not believe everything you read on the internet, and no better example can be found then by reading your post above. Ive not said anything about the rumors you've centrally espoused, because simply put, I have no idea if it is true or not. I have other responsibilities in this world, which take up a great deal of my time. During the time frame in question, I was away from this forum for all but a few minutes a day, and I was lucky to even get that in, and I simply was not a part of anything to do with Japanfreak and Cabron.

So after seeing you assume so much Nutella, its occurring to me that perhaps what you're attempting to lay at Nevil's feet, just as you are laying it at my own, did not happen the way you've said it did. Because the only proof Ive seen of Nev's alleged deeds has been your post, and considering I see just how much you fill in the blanks with assumptions, there is a good chance Nev did nothing of the sort.

The fact you've ignored the trolls, threats and insults while coming at me with this post Nutella tells me everything I need to know about you. You're little more than a troll, someone with no credibility, yet run around the forum screaming big bad Nevil did this and did that. Well, considering the only things Ive seen on the matter are your post, and the post above from you is filled with misconceptions, its pretty clear to me that the rest of your bullshit is likely filled with misconceptions as well.

 

[nutella]

jesse you are nothing but a phony fucker, about elmer bud and coop, your the 1 screaming about them reveling personal info about hempy, but what personal info did hempy give coop or elmer, if i remember correctly it was hempy that sent elmer seeds, so when you you start to give out your own addy when gifting some1 seeds??? when you say personal info what you maybe meant was something that was said in a pm, but your the 1 doing all the screaming about others posting up personal info and no1 says shit, they just sit back, you seen what went fucking down, your never off this forum, but because its hempy you say something, which makes you a phony fucker, you can call me whatever you like, i dont give a shit, but i have seen right fucking through you, your a phony with no backbone who talks some amount of shit.

edit: to be fair you were not a part of anything what happened, i cannot remember a post from you ever joining in or being any part of it so for that you have my apologize, but your still a cock.

 

[PlantManBee]

what great info about the haze brothers!

can't ya'll stop arguing in even one thread?

 

[Brick Top]

What in the wide, wide world of sports is going on, on this site?


I LOVE a 100% sativa. Give me an old school rocket sled ride any day and I'm a happy camper. Now I do not know what anyone else here smokes but I think a number of you need to find the heaviest indica in existence and then smoke about a POUND of it and CHILL!

"As the Reverend Rodney King said, Can't we all just get along?" - Tony Soprano.

 

[T234]

I agree with Brick Top, everyone on this site needs some strong indica.

ORTEGA FOR EVERYBODY

 

[kashrocks]

Nut is such a troll

Peace.

K.

 

[JessE]

http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/4-talk-shantibaba-mrnice/1606-origins-haze.html as we know it today traces its roots to our very own Nevil Schoenmakers. Over nearly the last three decades, the varieties of cannabis he has released through his various enterprises have saturated the global cannabis market. In the process, his strains have become the foundational building blocks, the back bone of the modern cannabis industry.

When one hears the term Haze, as its applied in today's context, what people are actually referring to are the Haze hybrids which Nevil originally developed. Those lines went on to cement themselves as industry legends, and spawned countless other varieties in their wake. This process was described to me as sort of a Clover. If you follow the lines and curves of a Clover, it all leads back to the stem. That stem is Nevil Schoenmakers.

The true origins of haze may forever remain a mystery, but what we can definitively prove is that Nevil and Shantibaba took the line(s) and made them into the legends that they are today.

The Haze brothers were individuals who first made their appearances in High Times Magazine some years before Nevil conceptualized The Seed Bank. It is said that the line of haze today ultimately traces its roots to these individuals. There has been a debate for sometime as to their true identities, the veracity of their claims and their overall place in the cannabis industry. There is a great deal of unknowns involved in the Haze story, ultimately what we can start to build on as verified fact start when the variety landed in the hands of Nevil. Prior to this period of time, speculation begins to emerge to the for front of the discussion and a completely open field is found to which one can start to hypothesize about the rest of the story.

The two men I credit for making Haze what it is today are Shantibaba and Nevil Schoenmakers. They are certainly not the only people in the industry with a history worth mentioning, as clearly others have played a role in making things the way they are today, but when it comes to the success the haze hybrids have found today, there is no question as to the role both men have played.

I would just like to say thank you gentlemen, because I respect what you've meant to this industry a great deal. Your work has inspired many of us to dream, and the sacrifices and time you've given us were not in vein.

 

[nutella]

Nut is such a troll

Peace.

K.

shut it kash


i agree with bricktop as well and T234, so i smoked a joint and did a bong of bubble ( 70 u ) and im just on my second joint but i still think jesse is a cock BUT it has made me a lot more peaceful and more relaxed.

so what i have decided you will be all glad to hear as tbh i know this shit is not fair on shanti and after all it is shanti's site, is to stfu for a good bit, gonna stop myself from posting and let the site try and get back to normal as i know i have not been helping things at all with my replys, only making things worse, did not even come into this thread until some1 mentioned my name, and to be fair it was a quote i had seen from jesse as the original poster had deleted his post, should have just ignored it but i took the bait and replied, calling the guy a gay bar loiterer and for that i got a pm, and that is what set me off, not an excuse i know, but that was my reason's for coming into this thread, should have just stayed out but from now on im not going to say shit about anything other than the topic at hand, but i will stop posting for a bit to try and let things get back to some sort of normality and only post about the topic of the thread when i do make a post again.

 

[b0b_b1tch1n]

what i find funny ,,,, really funny is JessE and her boyfriend Hempy cry over and over about people posting bullshit ,,,, maybe its thier way of making up for JessE's CRAP posts like her deception of cheese ?

so is this why JessE and her boyfiend are so into calling out B.S because they are trying to draw attention away from JessE's f*ckups ?

 

[b0b_b1tch1n]

Nut is such a troll

Peace.

K.

your such a fag ,,,,,,

who cares

 

[JessE]

your such a fag ,,,,,,

who cares

That is inappropriate language for this forum, and for someone who pulls the racist card as often as you do bob, its ironic to see you using such a term.

You're setting a dangerous precedent, one which Im sure is not welcomed by the MNS staff. You should be ashamed of yourself bob.

saying he was drunk then bashing some canadian is NOT a very good appology if you ask me , and no it wasnt an appology , it was him trying to weasil his way out of what he said/ment

he will never EVER be trusted by myself and im sure many others , i now believe his last episode a while back was no med induced mistake either

there is no place for a rat on a forum such as this , and a racist one is that much worse IMO

racist man is worse then the kkk and he is no breeder , it is an insult to true breeders everytime someone calls racistman a breeder , he is nothing more then a pollin chucker who gets lucky SOMETIMES , but most offtin his junk is actually JUNK !

for those that are not aware , racistman = reeferman

i pray to god that everyone in this world stops buying from him , he doesnt deserve the support ,,,, plus his quality SUCKS ASS!!!!!

Originally posted by b0b_b1tch1n
i for one lost any respect i MIGHT have had for Ronin , nothin but a racist and a RAT now so i say send him off with anyone else in ban-land , no site needs a racist rat

 

[JessE]

Rounding back on topic

http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/4-talk-shantibaba-mrnice/1606-origins-haze.html as we know it today traces its roots to our very own Nevil Schoenmakers. Over nearly the last three decades, the varieties of cannabis he has released through his various enterprises have saturated the global cannabis market. In the process, his strains have become the foundational building blocks, the back bone of the modern cannabis industry.

When one hears the term Haze, as its applied in today's context, what people are actually referring to are the Haze hybrids which Nevil originally developed. Those lines went on to cement themselves as industry legends, and spawned countless other varieties in their wake. This process was described to me as sort of a Clover. If you follow the lines and curves of a Clover, it all leads back to the stem. That stem is Nevil Schoenmakers.

The true origins of haze may forever remain a mystery, but what we can definitively prove is that Nevil and Shantibaba took the line(s) and made them into the legends that they are today.

The Haze brothers were individuals who first made their appearances in High Times Magazine some years before Nevil conceptualized The Seed Bank. It is said that the line of haze today ultimately traces its roots to these individuals. There has been a debate for sometime as to their true identities, the veracity of their claims and their overall place in the cannabis industry. There is a great deal of unknowns involved in the Haze story, ultimately what we can start to build on as verified fact start when the variety landed in the hands of Nevil. Prior to this period of time, speculation begins to emerge to the for front of the discussion and a completely open field is found to which one can start to hypothesize about the rest of the story.

The two men I credit for making Haze what it is today are Shantibaba and Nevil Schoenmakers. They are certainly not the only people in the industry with a history worth mentioning, as clearly others have played a role in making things the way they are today, but when it comes to the success the haze hybrids have found today, there is no question as to the role both men have played.

I would just like to say thank you gentlemen, because I respect what you've meant to this industry a great deal. Your work has inspired many of us to dream, and the sacrifices and time you've given us were not in vein.

Below is one such article from High Time Magazine outlining stories from The Haze brothers. Interesting to note the ultimate pedigree of haze as described by the brothers, one could speculate on a number of possibilities from this article alone.

 

[b0b_b1tch1n]

you need to borrow Hempy's mirror JessE

you have no right to say that sh*t , your one of the worst members on this forum for calling members names

kashrocks deserves it and much worse

and whats being racist got to do with it ? i only said he is a fag , i didnt slander fags in any way

your not the brightest bulb in the grow room JessE

 

[farmergiles]

G`day Farmer Giles

A few tricks I use for better growth during Winter are the styrofoam box you see in the pic ,raising the plants off the ground where possible and making sure they get the morning sun on them . Standing the pots on bricks or terracotta can help too as they give back heat at night . Also making use of brick walls and their radiated warmth at night for seedlings is useful too .
But giving them a head start to half a dozen nodes inside makes a big difference .

Thanks for sharin
Elmer Bud .

Thanks for the advices but I don't think it will make much difference where I grow.