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hi fxginbcn,

from what I ve seen there are several schools of though on curing/drying etc
Some people like to hang for 1-2 weeks , others for 1 month or two others like Nev for up to 3-6 months in certain cases but if you hand and dry the plants for so long you need to make sure you have the right humidity in the room you dry the plants.
So in my opinion generally speaking it doesn't really always matter if you dry for a very long time or not , what is more important is to make drying process to be as slow as possible without risking mold issues or over-drying esp in the first weeks/months.If someone lives in humid areas in the tropics he will dry his plants in a different way compared to growers that live in very dry areas.


englishrick,

Well in my experience if you make a very quick 'Quick Iso Wash' :D (30sec or less exposure time) with freshly dried (uncured) but well dried and frozen material , very little/zero chlorophyll will be carried to the oil. The oil will be of a nice dark reddish color not green at all. Temperature and exposure time during extraction seem to have a great effect in the quality of the extraction and final product .


Nevil,

I was wondering do you use multiple screens of different sizes when making dry sieve hash ?
If so what different screen sizes do you prefer for haze hybrids like NH , Mango Haze etc ?
 
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englishrick,

Well in my experience if you make a very quick 'Quick Iso Wash' :D (30sec or less exposure time) with freshly dried (uncured) but well dried and frozen material , very little/zero chlorophyll will be carried to the oil. The oil will be of a nice dark reddish color not green at all. Temperature and exposure time during extraction seem to have a great effect in the quality of the extraction and final product .
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good QWISO is good stuff,,im not knocking it!!,,,,,,,,,,

but never ever ever ever have i had as good a product with QWISO as ive had with non polar [extra refined sentless butane] and pyrex glass....wow i can taste the difference a mile away,,,propper BHO smells like weed,,,QWISO never smells like weed in my experence
 
I agree with you englishrick ,
I never had any alcohol extracted oil being better than good oil made from quality butane gas either. BHO is some of the best cannabis concentrates , the quality is certainly up to par with the best dry sieve hash at least in my opinion.Btw what gas brand are you using?
I use mostly Vector butane gas which is really clean/pure , scentless and 5+ times filtered.

Here is something interesting , recently a guy over icmag accidentally discovered that the decarboxilized THC in oil that was exposed to too much heat and/or for too long causes the oil to lose the property of becoming glass hard when cooled (brought back to room temps). So it is important to not purge for too long or with too much heat as not only you are gonna lose some of the terpens that start to evaporate in relatively low temps but the texture of the end product will be different and less solid/glass/amber like as well.
 
yeh,,,i think its called Vector's Quintuplus Refined..lol,,amazon sell packs of it,,im an amazon whore,,its 1 of the only internet sites i buy from

have you seen a pyrex glass honey extractor beffore,,,i just put a coffeefilter on the end and it works a deram,,,love glass,,love glass

i love the glass effect from QWISO,,or in whiped propper BHO,,,,its just crying out for a toffee hammer:),,,

thats very cool,,[about purging killing the glass effect,,,i bet hes burn off the stuff tha solidifies at owe temps
 
I use the honey bee extractor myself but there are many better tubes out there to make BHO.One made of glass type that doesn't interact with the butane gas solvent would be the best.Got any pics or links to your glass tube?

As for the too much heat killing the glass effect , here is the thread if you wanna have a look about how he discovered it etc :http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=168388&page=3
 
yeh,,il post them tomoro,,,it looks like a cockpump:),,,

if you want 1 i can have a word for you,,,mine is a smallish [15"] but he can make massive 1`s ,,big as you want,,,if it can be made out of glass he can make it,,,
 
Hey englishrick, how you doing. I remember you from my IC days.

Anyway, thanks for posting that video, it was interesting.

Does your buddy blow custom pipes and bongs, are they made from pyrex too?
 
yeh,,,dicro,,insideout,,colour changing,,,fumed,,hes pretty good too,,,,but hes not the best ive seen,,drum was better!,,the big advantage of myguy is that i could make any fugin design and he would make it,,he has a problem makin it 100& clear but that usaly dont matter because its usaly full of colour,,,,,hes the first glass blower ive ever met in the uk an hes not bad,,,he has a dule passport and his sister died so hes been in the uk since then,,chillin ,,blowin ,,,hes 1 of the only dudes ive ever met who actualy uses a vaporbrothers vaporizor
 
I remember seeing somebody making hash with a bud, a beaker of ice cold water and a coffee filter in Amsterdam YEARS ago. I can't remember who it was but the method seemed quite straight-forward. Eventually I got it sussed and was making hash with a spaghetti strainer and my girlfriends tights well before I ever saw an Isolator bag. The knowledge was definitely out there for the public taking well before the bags came out.

My view on Ice Hash is that you can't seem to get ALL of the water out and the hash 'goes off' pretty soon, and stinks. It must be smoked quickly and can't be stored. Because of this the curing must be done when in leaf (or bud) form before extraction, not after.

I mentioned this ages ago in a thread called 'hash quality' in the 'plants and plant extracts' section..I know L33t disagrees and thinks you can fully dry water hash but I stand by my theory...it seems to go smelly after a while. It doesn't seem to last. No matter as I smoke it like a greedy little pig (a, er, smoking pig, that is, um....)

That said, some of my strongest ever smokes have been from bubblehash.

I like the idea of dry sieving a little before water extraction and mixing the 2 together (sieved and water extracted) for extra flavour and high.

Dry, well cured bud is always best, though...;)
 
englishrick said:
non polar solvents like butane make special product,,,,iso tastes like crap because its semi polar,,,i use a pyrex hand blow honey extractor a friend of mine made

im dying to buy a skillet and bellcurve for concentrates:)
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Doesnt taste Like crap at all Bro. It tastes like, well, well refined black hash. Its very strong, but as I said, It loses the florals we all love dearly. As someone said, I expect many of those may be partially water soulables.
Good Bud deserves to be smoked in its natural form. It tastes great!
 
i think using fresh plant matter [un-dry] makes the best waterhash,,,small bits of leaf dont seem to get into the final sample when i use fresh matter,,,+ the fresh matter makes a gooy bubble hash,,

anyone remember somas topgrade bubblehash he used to make for the damkrink ??,,,that was badass!!
 
Shelter Cove said:
Doesnt taste Like crap at all Bro. It tastes like, well, well refined black hash. Its very strong, but as I said, It loses the florals we all love dearly. As someone said, I expect many of those may be partially water soulables.
Good Bud deserves to be smoked in its natural form. It tastes great!
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ive never had a QWISO that tasted asgood as some blackhash ive had from pakistan,,,,hell no,,id say the black im talking about is probbly better than drysiff,,,,wow,,id love to be able to make blackhash,,but im guessing ive not got enough of the right weed

have you tryed BHO like me and lee are talking about bro?,,,,it keeps that floral smell,,,once you try it you might never go back:)
 
My view on Ice Hash is that you can't seem to get ALL of the water out and the hash 'goes off' pretty soon, and stinks. It must be smoked quickly and can't be stored. Because of this the curing must be done when in leaf (or bud) form before extraction, not after.

I mentioned this ages ago in a thread called 'hash quality' in the 'plants and plant extracts' section..I know L33t disagrees and thinks you can fully dry water hash but I stand by my theory...it seems to go smelly after a while. It doesn't seem to last. No matter as I smoke it like a greedy little pig (a, er, smoking pig, that is, um....)
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Grover ,

Do not squeeze / press your hash..this is very important. When you collect it wet , just place it between two 25micron screens , gently tap with a towel and dry it in powder form by crumbling it with the help of a credit card , spread it on a piece of paper/cardboard for a week (at RH ~50-55%). Then cure again in loose form for an extra month in very small , fully filled containers and if you still get moisture/moldy smelly hash I do not know what you are doing different than me cause waterhash thats been dried crumbled in low RH and then cured for a while in powder form before pressed smokes and smells heavenly no matter what you say..Sure its less good that the best dry sieve kif but more potent and with very nice taste.
As long as the loose hash is not overdried when stored , good quality hash should still stick and form hash clumps with the pressure and heat of your fingers.For long term storage theres always the freezer , place the cured pressed hash in small quantities in containers and store for as long as you like.
 
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Hi All,

Still got some ice hash.
This one we made this winter (just before Christmas) from the small leafs kept from curing.
Curing time of the plants was already 3 months, so it was very dry!!
The leafs where stored in the freezer for about 2-3 months.
And then we did the job. ;)
The powder hash we let dry for about a week in an opened jar.
Then we cured it for about 3 months in a dark,dry place.
at last we pressed it .
Must say , HEAVY STUFF!!!

ps, we call it sharis! :D don't know if it's the exact name but wth :D
 

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a heated press works wonders imo,,,i used to use coins to press mini balls,,,iwas using euros too,, nowadays id probbly use glass,,,anyways,,i used to heat the coins up on the cooker first and squash a mini ball into a flat disk,,,,defo help the hash cure!!,,,it decarboxilates the hash to some extent
 
englishrick said:
ive never had a QWISO that tasted asgood as some blackhash ive had from pakistan,,,,hell no,,id say the black im talking about is probbly better than drysiff,,,,wow,,id love to be able to make blackhash,,but im guessing ive not got enough of the right weed

have you tryed BHO like me and lee are talking about bro?,,,,it keeps that floral smell,,,once you try it you might never go back:)
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Well Of course Rick. Its Me Dr. Purper. Ive been smokin since 68 or 69
Ric, We just made 23 grams of transparet black glass ISO bubble from 56 grams fine siv GDP/ OG Kush Kief. Its more than twice as strong Bro. Look at my thread on the other site. Plenty of pics. It becomes like Obsidian, shiney black, and flows like oil. hardly any residue to speak of
 
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So I can hardly wait to try this process out on some pure Haze. That will be some good full melt glass, with a fukin crazy High!
 
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englishrick said:
yeh,,,dicro,,insideout,,colour changing,,,fumed,,hes pretty good too,,,,but hes not the best ive seen,,drum was better!,,the big advantage of myguy is that i could make any fugin design and he would make it,,he has a problem makin it 100& clear but that usaly dont matter because its usaly full of colour,,
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So dya reckon he could make a 'Zong Bong' style bong? How about percolator bongs? Does he have a website?

I want a big party piece bong, with a big bowl.

I'm a while away from having any cash to sort them out, but it would be good to maybe get some information via PM.

I brought a nice pyrex pipe off a guy in Scotland, I went to his site a few months ago and it had closed :(. Hope he starts up again in the future.

That bong looks weird in your last post? So do you heat one of the 'AquaLab' wands with a lighter and then drop it down the hole onto the bubble/full melt? Some of the bongs on their site baffle me. It's not hard to though, sooo. :)
 
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