Onward Through the Haze

Aloha fellow firewalkers!

The room is starting to fill up. Mangoes on the right, BackDoorMan and Holy Hanh Grail on the left. Holy Grail, Holy Hanh, MoX in the back. Flowers are starting to pop. Now in the 3rd week of florescence, they now stand 52"(132) to 58"(147). I figure several more weeks of growth before they start filling out in earnest. It is always interesting to grow several different sativa hybrids at the same time as they exhibit their own unique characteristics in veg as well as flower.
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In veg, the Holy Hanh Grail came out of the chute the fastest. She lead in growth and vigor. Initial biomass was impressive. A testament to new-seed f1's. The Mango Haze IBL lagged a little in height but still her growth was consistent. The BackDoorMan (NHxDoors) stayed squat and had me wondering whether soil conditions or other factors were causing their retardation. I was then reminded of the Doors #6 dad that I used. He was of a conservative nature. I had initially selected him bc of his compactness. I thought to use him to provide a more ID stature and to tighten up the bud of the Neville's #7 mom that I used, though she was so ridiculously beautiful with her long dreads. I love me some Mr. Nice!
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mu
 
Aloha brothers and sisters!
Lots of good sativas out there, find the one that speaks to you. There is room for everyone. No need to get nasty bc someone likes their stuff better. Make your own crosses and have fun with it. Most importantly, get beyond the hype- don't listen to all the noise and opinions, instead try out what you are interested in. It is the only way you will find out for sure if it is good or not- for you. Nothing worse than buying into hype- spending the time and effort only to be disappointed. And if you are doing crosses, it only makes sense to start with clean material. That's been my experience anyway. Be happy. Good luck and good hunting.


mu
 
Aloha fellow firewalkers!

The room is starting to fill up. Mangoes on the right, BackDoorMan and Holy Hanh Grail on the left. Holy Grail, Holy Hanh, MoX in the back. Flowers are starting to pop. Now in the 3rd week of florescence, they now stand 52"(132) to 58"(147). I figure several more weeks of growth before they start filling out in earnest. It is always interesting to grow several different sativa hybrids at the same time as they exhibit their own unique characteristics in veg as well as flower.
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In veg, the Holy Hanh Grail came out of the chute the fastest. She lead in growth and vigor. Initial biomass was impressive. A testament to new-seed f1's. The Mango Haze IBL lagged a little in height but still her growth was consistent. The BackDoorMan (NHxDoors) stayed squat and had me wondering whether soil conditions or other factors were causing their retardation. I was then reminded of the Doors #6 dad that I used. He was of a conservative nature. I had initially selected him bc of his compactness. I thought to use him to provide a more ID stature and to tighten up the bud of the Neville's #7 mom that I used, though she was so ridiculously beautiful with her long dreads. I love me some Mr. Nice!
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Aloha fellow firewalkers!

The room is starting to fill up. Mangoes on the right, BackDoorMan and Holy Hanh Grail on the left. Holy Grail, Holy Hanh, MoX in the back. Flowers are starting to pop. Now in the 3rd week of florescence, they now stand 52"(132) to 58"(147). I figure several more weeks of growth before they start filling out in earnest. It is always interesting to grow several different sativa hybrids at the same time as they exhibit their own unique characteristics in veg as well as flower.
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In veg, the Holy Hanh Grail came out of the chute the fastest. She lead in growth and vigor. Initial biomass was impressive. A testament to new-seed f1's. The Mango Haze IBL lagged a little in height but still her growth was consistent. The BackDoorMan (NHxDoors) stayed squat and had me wondering whether soil conditions or other factors were causing their retardation. I was then reminded of the Doors #6 dad that I used. He was of a conservative nature. I had initially selected him bc of his compactness. I thought to use him to provide a more ID stature and to tighten up the bud of the Neville's #7 mom that I used, though she was so ridiculously beautiful with her long dreads. I love me some Mr. Nice!
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mu
They look Dreadful! NH is awesome and the wait is more than worth it. Enjoy the fruits of your labor and let me know if you need some help doing so…
 
As children, we were taught that foxtailing is bad. It meant too much heat/light stress. Of course, we did not have Hazes or all the genetics that are available today. It seems that some strains are predisposed to foxtailing and it is ok, even desired. So, is foxtailing good, bad, or it depends on what genetics that you are growing?

This is what we were taught in school as children:

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As children, we were taught that foxtailing is bad. It meant too much heat/light stress. Of course, we did not have Hazes or all the genetics that are available today. It seems that some strains are predisposed to foxtailing and it is ok, even desired. So, is foxtailing good, bad, or it depends on what genetics that you are growing?

This is what we were taught in school as children:

As children, we were taught that foxtailing is bad. It meant too much heat/light stress. Of course, we did not have Hazes or all the genetics that are available today. It seems that some strains are predisposed to foxtailing and it is ok, even desired. So, is foxtailing good, bad, or it depends on what genetics that you are growing?

This is what we were taught in school as children:

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I wish I could have attended your school when I was younger..
 
As children, we were taught that foxtailing is bad. It meant too much heat/light stress. Of course, we did not have Hazes or all the genetics that are available today. It seems that some strains are predisposed to foxtailing and it is ok, even desired. So, is foxtailing good, bad, or it depends on what genetics that you are growing?

This is what we were taught in school as children:

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I must be older so here goes. No Hazes then and before Hazes there was some very potent landrace reefer some of which later became part of what is Haze. Too bad they no longer exists. Hybrids are great but we have lost all the original landraces... Give me a dreadheaded sativa dom anyday.
 
I must be older so here goes. No Hazes then and before Hazes there was some very potent landrace reefer some of which later became part of what is Haze. Too bad they no longer exists. Hybrids are great but we have lost all the original landraces... Give me a dreadheaded sativa dom anyday.
Nothing is lost brother is still out there ,some companies focus only in landraces is just to wild the outcome and you need alot of work and time find the ones,
-SaveTheBrains
 
I must be older so here goes. No Hazes then and before Hazes there was some very potent landrace reefer some of which later became part of what is Haze. Too bad they no longer exists. Hybrids are great but we have lost all the original landraces... Give me a dreadheaded sativa dom anyday.
Back then it was simple, straight up Oaxacan, Columbian in SoCal, then Jamaican, and Thai. Pinners and hash. Oh, and the blotter and hot cars. Back then turning 13.3's was fast.
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And there was Alice
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mu
 
Aloha fellow firewalkers!
Eight plants in the room were pollinated yesterday. Some Mango IBL, BDM, Holy Hanh Grail and MoX got Mango Haze IBL pollen from two males. Lower branches were selected for this after tagging them for identification. Everything went fairly well. Plants just got a foliar of neem and Ascophyllum this morning to clean things up and it was their first IPM treatment. Fans resumed their air circulation duties lol. Though my air conditioner came on at the last minute yesterday and I had to quickly shut it down lol.
The room is becoming a tangled mess as the lower branches reach out in tendril like fashion. Lights are turned down to half power as I believe they are too intense for the sativas. Four weeks in flower so far and all plants in the room are now showing buds. I expect that the initial vertical spurt will now slow down. Some plants are now standing at 165cm (65"). Fuller, slightly domed tops on the Mangos and wispier tops on the other sativas.
Some of the BDM's this go-round appear more like mom with the early, sparse flower that usually provides the base for the calyx stacking that comes later.
BDM #3
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Especially BDM #4 - what a lovely form
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BDM #1 has more of the Doors, Haze AC traits. Rounded domes, clusters in the petiole clefts.
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An unusual trait on this Holy Hanh Grail; clear petioles terminating in red at the base of the leaf structure and red again at the petiole cleft.
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I have my fingers crossed in hopes of a good fertilization. Let's hope the fertility Gods are on my side.

mu
 
Aloha fellow firewalkers!
Welcome back to the asparagus farm!
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As shown in a previous post, the BDM's (NH x (NL5/Hz x AC)) this go-round look more like their mother, the Nev Haze. They have the wispy buds on long slender reeds with extended, gangly looking bottoms. From afar they almost look fernlike; thin and delicate, the flowers. Or maybe more wheatlike. 4-ft. stakes give you an idea how tall they are getting.
BDM #4
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BDM #1
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If you have been following, this all began with a NH/Doors combination resulting in BackDoorMan (NHxDoors). The last grow involved using a male Holy Hanh (NH/AC x VB/NH) on the BDM to create the Holy Hanh Grail ((NH/(NL5/Hz x AC) x (NH/AC x VB/NH)). These Holy Hanh Grail seem to have inherited that wispy trait from the original NH mom used along with those long, side branches. Looks like 2 different phenotypes here with one a little tigher in morphology that the other. And these coming from the BackDoorMan mom:
Holy Hanh Grail #1
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Holy Hanh Grail #2
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I'm getting excited!
mu
 
Aloha fellow firewalkers!
Welcome back to the asparagus farm!
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As shown in a previous post, the BDM's (NH x (NL5/Hz x AC)) this go-round look more like their mother, the Nev Haze. They have the wispy buds on long slender reeds with extended, gangly looking bottoms. From afar they almost look fernlike; thin and delicate, the flowers. Or maybe more wheatlike. 4-ft. stakes give you an idea how tall they are getting (the tallest 27.5cm).
DBM #4
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BDM #1
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If you have been following, this all began with a NH/Doors combination resulting in BackDoorMan (NHxDoors). The last grow involved using a male Holy Hanh (NH/AC x VB/NH) on the BDM to create the Holy Hanh Grail ((NH/(NL5/Hz x AC) x (NH/AC x VB/NH)). These Holy Hanh Grail seem to have inherited that wispy trait from the original NH mom used along with those long, side branches. Looks like 2 different phenotypes here with one a little tigher in morphology that the other. And these coming from the BackDoorMan mom:
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Holy Hanh Grail #2
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I'm getting excited!
mu
So about 6 weeks into flower? Looks like about 10 weeks to go for most of these or you thinking less ? 🤔 can't wait to see the results 👍🏽😍🔥🔥
 
Checking the lower branches as it is 9 days after fertilization; the BackDoorMan and Holy Hanh Grail are already showing the bump. Here's a few shots. I'll dig through the Mangoes tomorrow and see if they were successful. Regardless, looks like other "sites" have been pollinated, c'est la vie. Yeeek! That Mango IBL pollen is a virile one!
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Nikon 105mm f/7.1 with flash

mu
 
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