Northern Lights

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PrimalHaze said:
did you see this one?

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I kinda wish now I bet it was more entertaining I could only imagine. "I'm a marine boy!!" that was too funny I knew a marine he would joke about that shit you don't join the Marines you become one. lol, Even though most anyone can become one especially during Vietnam. :D And most came home soo....:rolleyes:

Some cool movies though bout the best that came from Vietnam Apocalypse Now, lol surfing in a war zone I bet that was Greg. :D
 
The reason I don't like greenhouse seeds isn't because or their seeds it's because time after time they show their greedy hypocritical money Grabber's. Strain hunters is a joke they go out find landlarce strains take a load of seeds and leave a load of shift FEMS to contaminate the pure land race stock so others can't find the already hard to come by landrace. Strain hunters offer strains like affgooey lol. Now correct me if I am wrong here but I can get that from gooey breeder seeds were they got it from right? In fact gooey breeder is meant to be a great guy who would give you the gooey mom he used to make affgooey so why bother paying greenhouse seeds for their shit version? Just another example of greedy snatch and run money making from the king of cannabiz. Because that's all it is showbusiness smoke and mirrors top hat's and clowns.
 
brock1 said:
The reason I don't like greenhouse seeds isn't because or their seeds it's because time after time they show their greedy hypocritical money Grabber's. Strain hunters is a joke they go out find landlarce strains take a load of seeds and leave a load of shift FEMS to contaminate the pure land race stock so others can't find the already hard to come by landrace. Strain hunters offer strains like affgooey lol. Now correct me if I am wrong here but I can get that from gooey breeder seeds were they got it from right? In fact gooey breeder is meant to be a great guy who would give you the gooey mom he used to make affgooey so why bother paying greenhouse seeds for their shit version? Just another example of greedy snatch and run money making from the king of cannabiz. Because that's all it is showbusiness smoke and mirrors top hat's and clowns.
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He has crosses with Afgooey but no Afgooey not very cheap for someone I just barely heard of looks almost like he just got a hold of the clone only. I remember years ago their was this MR. Bluegoo guy on Youtube he had a cross made with the Afgooey cut so that guy almost sounds like yet another pollen chucker jumping on the TGA train. lol, But maybe it is the original breeder I'm not sure.

My biggest problem with that Strain Hunter crap is they promised landraces and they just have fems of the same old genetics but yeah they can't make enough money cause for one they need a greenhouse grown from seed open pollination for each landrace and they can't charge too much cause they are landrace.
 
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Al Capone said:
He has crosses with Afgooey but no Afgooey not very cheap for someone I just barely heard of looks almost like he just got a hold of the clone only. I remember years ago their was this MR. Bluegoo guy on Youtube he had a cross made with the Afgooey cut so that guy almost sounds like yet another pollen chucker jumping on the TGA train. lol, But maybe it is the original breeder I'm not sure.

My biggest problem with that Strain Hunter crap is they promised landraces and they just have fems of the same old genetics but yeah they can't make enough money cause for one they need a greenhouse grown from seed open pollination for each landrace and they can't charge too much cause they are landrace.
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The affgooey they have isn't the gooey mom clone it's not even pure gooey which is gooey mom bx3 with the affy dad used to make affy gooey. What they sell is gooey mom x afghan. I have just been given the gooey mom clone only and it is meant to be a lot more sativa then the affy gooey. Bluegoo is dj shorts blueberry x gooey mom I was supposed to be getting it a few years back but the mother was prone to hermi so give it a miss. ;)
 
NL Seattle Greg said:
Aloha, NL 1-2-3 were short and high afgani smell & taste 4-11 were indica sativa hybrids
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hello ,, is this Gray or Greg ?
I am the real Apollo 11 ,if your the Gray I know from Bainbridge island had 5 breeder plants growing in a closet grow ,smoke some Matanuska thundra with me ...if it is you, you will know who I am ? in 1979 Gray had a 1974 pure NL male from Vancouver ,Canada .....
 
Al Capone said:
I kinda wish now I bet it was more entertaining I could only imagine. "I'm a marine boy!!" that was too funny I knew a marine he would joke about that shit you don't join the Marines you become one. lol, Even though most anyone can become one especially during Vietnam. :D And most came home soo....:rolleyes:

Some cool movies though bout the best that came from Vietnam Apocalypse Now, lol surfing in a war zone I bet that was Greg. :D
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if this Greg is the person I know as Gray you are talking to one of the best breeders I have known ...he knew the strains and the skill of breeding years ahead of anyone else ...in fact if this is the Gray I know ,,, then I will be asking him if he would like to help work with my 1969 Mekong delta strain called (" Abducted ") I have 48 seeds left ......6 out of first 35 geminated ,you ever hear of 20'Thai description of the

" old ancient strains that live in the depths of tropical jungle that are of the creeper variety.."

yes, Abducted is one of those old ancient strains ! very rare and very unique strain maybe the last of its kind ...
me and Mike H have 102 years growing and breeding between us , nether of us had ever seen anything like this strain ...

the seeds came back by two nam vets in the same squad . one went to upstate NY the other was from SoCal .. the strain ended up in Hawaii and the emerald triangle,, a few years latter it was the father of the 1973-1974 Sheeba from Toronto, Canada ,that was in fact a leaf ...
not buds ...
DJ short wrote about the leafs of these strains .. the leaf is stronger then most modern street weeds and 95 % of what 20'Thai said is true so far ...
 
Apollo 11 said:
if this Greg is the person I know as Gray you are talking to one of the best breeders I have known ...he knew the strains and the skill of breeding years ahead of anyone else ...in fact if this is the Gray I know ,,, then I will be asking him if he would like to help work with my 1969 Mekong delta strain called (" Abducted ") I have 48 seeds left ......6 out of first 35 geminated ,you ever hear of 20'Thai description of the

" old ancient strains that live in the depths of tropical jungle that are of the creeper variety.."

yes, Abducted is one of those old ancient strains ! very rare and very unique strain maybe the last of its kind ...
me and Mike H have 102 years growing and breeding between us , nether of us had ever seen anything like this strain ...

the seeds came back by two nam vets in the same squad . one went to upstate NY the other was from SoCal .. the strain ended up in Hawaii and the emerald triangle,, a few years latter it was the father of the 1973-1974 Sheeba from Toronto, Canada ,that was in fact a leaf ...
not buds ...
DJ short wrote about the leafs of these strains .. the leaf is stronger then most modern street weeds and 95 % of what 20'Thai said is true so far ...
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Does Gray claim to have created Northern Lights? Cause that's all I know about this guy really.

I know I have heard of that Mekong somewhere good luck with the rest of them seeds would nice having some dank old school sativa around.
 
Al Capone said:
Does Gray claim to have created Northern Lights? Cause that's all I know about this guy really.

I know I have heard of that Mekong somewhere good luck with the rest of them seeds would nice having some dank old school sativa around.
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the Gray I know in 1979 had a 1974 NL male and was the breeder ...,I know I saw it .
 
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Dum dum dum dum dum.....then Greg(the Marine) found the golden tablet and the seer stones...dum dum dum dum dum....then some other extremely convoluted details that never quite coalesce into any coherent sequence of events following a cohesive timeline involving a static field of known and confirmed sources....in short a big fat steaming pile of horseshit that when viewed from the correct angle is the perfect prelude to a nice marketing ploy designed and executed by not that bright purveyors of porpoise penises...dum dum dum dum dum....
 
Oh sorry. My bad. You didn't deserve dolphin dick dialogue... It's just that it's tiresome reading obvious fabrications. Gregs timelines are jacked and his constant name dropping of characters involving products and places that are clearly not consistent with known facts. Prevarication can be problematic when people are well informed and paying attention. It's like watching a child caught in an obvious lie and then continuing to lie more.
 
Apollo 11 said:
if this Greg is the person I know as Gray you are talking to one of the best breeders I have known ...he knew the strains and the skill of breeding years ahead of anyone else ...in fact if this is the Gray I know ,,, then I will be asking him if he would like to help work with my 1969 Mekong delta strain called (" Abducted ") I have 48 seeds left ......6 out of first 35 geminated ,you ever hear of 20'Thai description of the

" old ancient strains that live in the depths of tropical jungle that are of the creeper variety.."

yes, Abducted is one of those old ancient strains ! very rare and very unique strain maybe the last of its kind ...
me and Mike H have 102 years growing and breeding between us , nether of us had ever seen anything like this strain ...

the seeds came back by two nam vets in the same squad . one went to upstate NY the other was from SoCal .. the strain ended up in Hawaii and the emerald triangle,, a few years latter it was the father of the 1973-1974 Sheeba from Toronto, Canada ,that was in fact a leaf ...
not buds ...
DJ short wrote about the leafs of these strains .. the leaf is stronger then most modern street weeds and 95 % of what 20'Thai said is true so far ...
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A picture speaks a thousand words. Show us your 20'Thai then we all like to see a good old sativa. I have got to ask why if you have all these years breeding experience and the holy grail of Thai your germination rates are rubbish? 100+ years and by the sound of it you never worked really old seeds that need a kick up the back side to get them started? You can buy kits for that purpose now pretty cheap.
 
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Brock1 all you have to do ask ... go to ICM web site there are pics posted there of the Abducted strain base ..

some may read it wrong way . I said the Gray I knew had a 1974 NL male about 5 years old in 1979 . I know this for a fact I saw it ... I did not say he was the breeder of NL, he was the breeder of that NL ...I don't care if you say god was the breeder of NL...lol that's not why I am here at this web site ...
if this Greg is the Gray I knew then . I want to find him...

as far as the strain "Abducted " it is not for sale to anyone . I am strain collector ,have been for 30 odd years , two nam vets in my brothers squad were there when this strain was found . one came back to upstate NY the other lived in SoCal ...you could ask my brother but he died at 38 ....

it is almost impossible to grow indoor or out unless you have a rain forest in your pocket ...it takes 12 -14 months to grow it ..I have the last 48 seeds of this strain ...and yes it may be the last of its kind in the world ...I would love to have Gray work with this strain . he was the best breeder I have ever known ...he had 4 mother plants and a male father plant ..he was biker and went up and down the coast looking for breeding stock ...he said the NL male came from Vancouver island ...I only know what he said in 1979 . I do not know if it was true . but at the time I feel he was being honest to me ...

who got noticed for breeding NL ,I really don't care . but you should ask your self this question .. if he was the breeder ,who ever ended up with the strain dose not matter ..the person I know as Gray . was a grand master of breeding ,out right knew the strains where they came from how they were made... he was keeping them short and small for breeding stock .. really good at what he was doing ,the male was in a bag taped around the stem .. very much alive ...the Matanuska was perfect ! the best I have ever seen ..

as far as na Sayers , there are a lot of 12 year old on the web sites and they say a lot of sh** they were not even alive back then but they know more then those who were ...lol
 
Howdy Apollo,

What a little coincidence that you and Hempster just came here looking for Greg. His thread over at the GHS site said that you can find him on Facebook. People aren't too hard to find these days.

 
I've been reading Gregs content on this site and other unmentionable taboo sites and its painting a rather sad picture of Greg and his actual knowledge of breeding. All dramatic claims and cheesy marketing ploys aside, let's see some of Gregs NL. What's it taste like, how high does it get you etc. Lets just understand that whatever Dronkers had was heavily influenced by selections and hybridization carried out in Holland by a certain talented collector and breeder of cannabis. I forget his name. Nigel, Norval ,hmm I can't remember anyway, the NL that won all the cups and everyone loves is not Gregs NL. Might have been related somehow initially but what became famous was not at all like the original stuff. So if Gregs is anything interesting, cool. Let's see it. Let's hear about it now, not in 74'. If it's that good I'm sure it will be all over Seattle...I'm here now. Not one mention anywhere of NL Seattle Greg biker breeder badass,legend perhaps in his own mind?
 
Howdy Apollo,

Like many cannabis aficionados... when someone says they have untouched asian strain from 1969... i listen. So I went and looked at your thread @ ic.

So you're saying that after smoking 4 hits from leaf material it gives you an LSD high? If you haven't even grown it to maturity... why are you saying things like its an ancient strain that may be the mother of all cannabis? AND...if it's so damn good... why not share it?

Well, the pictures say it all...
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=6873101&postcount=42

and this is pretty fucking funny...
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=6845781&postcount=1
 
I full agree ,if this is gray I am sure he is still breeding strains . people like that never stop till their dead ...I would love to see what he is working on now days ...

as for Abducted .. when you get a strain that has been in veg for 4 1/2 call me ....

i made Perceiva ,Candy Cain Thai ,Purple MEDic ,you don't see any of them out there ... i am not in it for money or fame .. sorry .

paying $475 for the last 1974 PR or growing 29 of the Dutch flowers strains ,

its about growing the strains .. i don't care i am a reclusive i have been for 24 years , i really don't care if your world rots away tomorrow ...lol

but i did come here to hunt trolls or find a bunch of back talk ...i am 54 to old for that sh** anymore ...

who said it was a sativa .. we don't know what the fu** it is . so far we know it is one of the strains 20'Thai is describing .. i know its almost impossible to grow or kill off ...but getting it to flower is the next thing ,,,its not going to happen this week ,lol

i did not come here to debate Greg or Gray .. i came here to see if this was the gray i knew ... i have a reason ..
 
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