Neville's Haze Mango, in search of a keeper

[Cloffy]

All the best, Swifty!

I'll grab my popcorn and a chair.

 

[Swifty]

Thanks @Mr. Brown, @pleased420, @Diesel840 and @Cloffy!

The germination proces has gone better than last year.
Seedling soil, a heat mat and plain rain water are giving me far better results with these older seeds.

A couple of more have germinated this week, sadly I lost one.
I know how this happened.
They are planted in a low tray, 2 of them are directly above a large draining hole.
Drier soil and a taproot that went right through the draining hole above the heat mat resulted in a loss.
The other one hung its head for 2 days but is up now.
First time I germinate this way, still some room for improvement.

I see more seedlings with mutations from the start, I believe I have 32 seedlings now.
They are showing good health, only rainwater so far.
I will transplant them this week.

 

[Swifty]

20 days has passed since putting these into the dirt, last couple of days I saw good growth.
I will transplant them today, still debating to keep the strong only.

So far only rain water and nothing else.

 

[Diesel840]

They look great. The leaves don't look too thin yet. It will be fun to watch how they progress.

 

[Swifty]

32 Neville's Haze Mango out of 42 seeds.
3 of them had sprouted and showed cotyledons but had deformed taproots and stayed under the ground.
4 of the unsprouted seeds were not viable and 3 showed healthy embryo but did not sprout by the time I transplanted them.
I should have waited a bit longer, the day before the transplant I had another one poking through the dirt.
All in all a very good result for these older seeds, heat mat and seedling soil mix worked good.

I see more deformed growth here in the early stage but most are outgrowing it.

Led is still at 25% @50cm and temps between 18-20°C.
RH stays around 60-65%.

Pot in the middle and on the right side are NHM.

 

[CanaViper]

Nice

/steve

 

[Ken Abbis]

free stylin' @Swifty
jah bless

 

[Swifty]

Small update, they are doing good so far.
I will train them to the sides this week to prepare them for topping, so far only rainwater.

 

[acrid]

The time you put into your posts saves time for everyone else, thanks!

 

[Ptree]

I like it

 

[Swifty]

Small update (pictures are from yesterday).
So far everything looks ok.
Around 5 weeks old now.

 

[longball]

Dang, Swifty! You da man!



Longball

 

[Swifty]

The NHM are doing well, started some feeding yesterday.
These are more stinky so far, great vigor also.

I will start checking for m/f over the weekend and prepare them for flower

 

[Deach69]

So, what is your goal here? Those seedlings are going to be fighting for root space any minute.

 

[Deach69]

I'm also interested in how you do the transplanting

 

[Swifty]

So, what is your goal here? Those seedlings are going to be fighting for root space any minute.

Hello Deach,
This seems unorthodox to do but I will explain:

I grow for myself only and I don't grow year round so I have to try to grow the best i can and have a stock that last me through the year.
Starting as an outdoor grower I found early on that only a small fraction of my plants gave decent bud and more important good quality that I enjoyed.
This got me thinking on how I could improve.

I started to see the importance of proven clones and this led my to try to have as many girls as possible in the shortest time possible.
Always searching to find the one that is better for me than the previous keepers.

I started by growing in individual pots but this still takes quite some resources and work to see through the end of flowering.
I remembered that I grew bagseed when I was around 16-17years old in small 0,5L pots and had decent bud If I fed them well enough.
So this was scaled up a bit and now you see what I'm doing.

I let them grow, then I top them to leave only 2 branches, one I keep for cloning and the other one is getting flowered asap.
I remove the males as soon as I spot them to make room for the remaining females.
After 2-3 weeks flower I pull the entire mass of soil out (gently) and cut bottom 1/3 off and put fresh soil in and rest of the mass on top.
I feed according there needs for the rest of the period.

This gives fairly good quality, enough for me to judge them and select in the clones that were made.
Decent ones get a second chance and are grown larger.

I have done this method many times outside but is the first time I will do this indoors.

Hope it is somewhat clear now, in any case you will see how this goes further here!

I'm also interested in how you do the transplanting

I think you mean the little ones in the beginning of the thread?

-Soil is damp but not wet or dry.
-I use a fork to loosen the soil around the seedling gently on every side.
-Put the fork under the seedling and gently bring it up.

Tricky but doable.

 

[Deach69]

Thanks for those breakdowns @Swifty . I'll likely use that method indoors next fall.

I'm a big fan of transplanting, especially trees. I had a mishap moving a potted weed plant in my youth, where I didn't realize some of the roots had gone to the ground through one of the holes, and almost died instantly when I picked it up. So I tend to be overcautious with cannabis roots.

 

[acrid]

Reminds me of an nft hydro system, but in dirt, I like it. Great way to hunt phenos or sog of small plants.
Around here the local guys from the shop have a little competition going on what they can pull from solo cups.
Small plants are under rated, you can get a full canopy of 'tops' rather than a whole lot of scraggle.
215 changed the game with plant counts so everyone wanted the biggest plants, I get it.. But that's just regulation
dictating innovation as opposed to what's actually best.

 

[DannyTwoJoints]

This seems unorthodox

I grow for myself only and I don't grow year

I found early on that only a small fraction of my plants gave decent bud and more important good quality that I enjoyed.
This got me thinking on how I could improve.

I started to see the importance of proven clones and this led my to try to have as many girls as possible in the shortest time possible.
Always searching to find the one that is better for me than the previous keepers.


This gives fairly good quality, enough for me to judge them and select in the clones that were made.
Decent ones get a second chance and are grown larger.

This is brilliant @Swifty

I love how time & space constraints & knowing what you want make you get inventive.

It's great seeing all the modern legal micro grows being documented right now, but I'd love to create a Taschen coffee table book documenting clandestine personal grows & the growers inventiveness.

Eagerly awaiting results of the NHM. I've got a to do list that includes finding a male in NHM & Holy Grail (I don't know when I'll get time to do this, but it's on the list )

 

[Swifty]

Day 1 of flowering (12/12).

I left 2-3 nodes, in week or so I will reduce the branches on each plant to 2.
Goal here is to start with fairly equally sized branches on each plant, leaving a couple of nodes to start makes this a bit easier.
In 1-2 weeks I will make a cut from every plant as a mom/dad.

I don't think I will keep the males this year to flower out unless I find an exceptional one (still not 100% sure on this, will see if I can pull it off eventually).
Males will be removed here as soon as I spot them.
A fair amount showed or was starting to show sex, plants are near maturity.

These smell a bit more pungent and stincky, I see strong stems and great vigour in this line.
After topping I notided very sticky fingers from NHM!



Rootbound risk is here, important that I feed them enough and remove every male asap to make extra room.



Light stays at this for now, I will gradually build it up but I will not push them by any means.
Quality over quantity in this selection round!