Thanks Primal. The strain the whorl genes came from is Cannalope Haze. I found a quad (frosty fans and balls too) male in it and figured what the heck, let's see if it inherits. So I crossed it 4 times, 1 in, 3 out (ICE, Chunk, and another cross I made earlier) to see which one I wanted to work on further. Found good (early) whorlers in the Chunk and ICE cross offspring but went with the chunk x ch for simply being the better cross in many ways, which I call P.
P became however, somewhat intentionally, a regular phyllotaxy line. Just started with F3 run.
Since the outcome in the outcrosses indicated the trait is actually dominant, I want to create a separate whorled line from the CHxCH I created, to later cross with the P line. The best whorlers from those however smell and look suspiciously a lot like the ICE x CH cross I made, and I'm pretty sure I somehow popped some of those as well. Long story short, I can't use any of these and need to take a step back before moving forward again.
And yes, clones of my whorlers still whorl, especially if I clone the top before alternating. Or, they turn in to spiral phyllotaxy (because it alternates it's technically impossible to retain whorled phyllotaxy).
And yes, some of the branches of whorlers become whorled too. Not consistent enough yet though, that's part of the goal, which I don't even know yet is really possible. It's only cool when it's neat and consistent and not as a previous poster mentioned "deformed".
Sometimes not all, almost always after a few nodes as with the main stem, sometimes tri, sometimes quad. In some generations/crosses I can actually cause the branches to whorl even if the main stem isn't, simply by topping or bending the main stem (which again confirms the influence of auxins. WP is the result of a different auxin and cytokinin regulation).
We we're worried for a minute there.
