He needs to meet DJS.
that's an idea
You got to remember to take what reeferman says with a healthy pinch of salt, but in that case, he was correct. I paid 150US for 10 OPT seeds (I was wealthy at the time) way back in the Prarie Fire Seeds days. The plants were the most mutated mess I have ever seen, reef can't have done any selection, and the lack of vigour was a huge problem, they took 3-4 months to grow to a size where cuttings could be taken and took an age to show sex. Some of them after months grew out of the freakiness to an extent where they grew with acceptable vigour and structure, some just stayed so messed up they were a waste of space. I complained and reef told me that if only I had patience, I would see they were worth my time. Well, I did manage to grow 3 females that produced stunning end product, but yield wasn't great, and I didn't have an Oaxacan pheno female, all my females were twisted, mutated, low yielding Thai phenos, but man was the bud good, the most complex smell, taste and high I've found. Some of DJ's lines capture this quite well, Flo being the standout example, but as I said earlier, Flo also has some of the lack of vigour and low yield that plagued OPT.
I don't have any pics of my OPT grow, it was 7-8 years ago. However, this Purpurea Ticinensis seedling gives you some idea of the nature of the mutations I saw in OPT.
I must add, everything I've grown from reeferman has been garbage, so I wouldn't judge OPT from the reef version 7 years ago, we know OPT has been a key part of several amazing lines from other breeders, I'm sure Nev could work wonders with it.
British Hempire, you have clearly spoken to some people "in the know" of west coast history, do you really believe the whole mendo joe = romulan joe story? A huge part of nom de fleurs "other sacred seeds story" revolves around this and no one ever mentions the opposing romulan story that predates nom de fleurs account by several years and comes directly from someone that for certain acquired the cut directly from Romulan Joe... Jay from Next Generation; part owner of the very first seed company ever to sell romulan--(federation seeds). Romulan was not even named until late 90's and then it was by the staff at hemp bc.. who also gave the source the name romulan joe. Pretty sure rom's actual name is port alberni pine bud. The story from Jay is no where near as romantic as nom de fleurs.. just a plain ol back yard in bc and a mismash of genetics, pretty sure he has the whole account on his website. I want to believe nom de fleurs sacred seeds version of events but there are too many holes in the story imo.
ps. flo/purple thai get my thumbs down for the grail.. just not a good match imo two different ends of the sativa spectrum.
Hi BH.....Good to hear someone elses report on it, Maybe Snow has managed to sort it out.
Did you grow out reefermans Black Seed ( Mex ) ??? I was given some of these and was curious about them.
I only had 10 seeds of OPT so it's not a base for making much of a study of OPT.
I've not grown Black Seed, a guy over at icmag is currently running them outdoors under glass in Holland, I think he's called elmanito, I forget exactly.
Just to clarify, I've only grown a handful of reef strains, OPT, G13, Nigerian Nightmare, Burmese, Pink Kush. The G13 was garbage, no resin, no smell, vaguely tasted of oranges, extremely leafy, extremely airy, nothing like any of the G13 hybrids I've grown. The Nigerian Nightmare had the same issues, was vaguely fruity, only one flowered on 19 hours of light as reef said they did, had no vigour, waste of time and space. Burmese wasn't Burmese, I've grown the VISC Burmese and sampled Burmese from Canada, reef's was nothing like it, stringy, lanky things that weren't done after 14 weeks and were culled. Pink Kush was absolutely fantastic, like a strawberry version of Bubba. I wish I could get hold of another cut of the keeper from that pack, I know it's still around.
Hi BH.....Good to hear someone elses report on it, Maybe Snow has managed to sort it out.
Did you grow out reefermans Black Seed ( Mex ) ??? I was given some of these and was curious about them.
Awesome colors man.. I don't envy you come trim time
Stay Cool..
ps. flo/purple thai get my thumbs down for the grail.. just not a good match imo two different ends of the sativa spectrum.