Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid
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The Black Haze high type would be described as transcending and inter-dimensional with many layers of high. I know that may seem over the top but the high keeps coming in waves with each wave a different experience. Truly hallucinogenic herb one of only a few I would consider to be.
The Black Haze phenotypes I tried were the Purple Haze pheno (my favorite), Grape Pheno and Nigerian pheno. The Purple Haze pheno has the best burgundy port wine taste that sticks to the roof of your mouth and lingers, deeper and richer then the Purple Haze x Panama but better.
The Nevilles Haze I grew was more cardamon and exotic spice with exotic sweetness, really brought out in a cure. The Black Haze is something different.
The Grape Pheno was close to the Purple Haze pheno.. very close but more social and euphoric and had a more pronounced Concord grape note~smell and taste.
Shelter Cove
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These pics were taken by me from my friends finished Black Haze to give you an example of this Haze line.
Black Haze~Breeders Choice (Pure Haze, Purple Haze pheno crossed to Colombian Black)
Black Haze~Breeders Choice: Purple Haze pheno
Black Haze~Breeders Choice: Nigerian pheno
Here are some of 2009's harvest flowers. Just to give you an idea what the different strains look like next to each other.
Hey nice sampler plate there SnowHigh! Now Im going to need to order more seeds
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Purple Haze
Hello! Snowhigh...
That Purple Haze x Panama is such a beautiful electric looking Bud, and looks extremey Euphoric. Just Beautiful looking with that purple backgroung you used for the picture. Did that mix produce much? Great Job!It really looks like something special for sure. resinbud,
Hello! Snowhigh...
That Purple Haze x Panama is such a beautiful electric looking Bud, and looks extremey Euphoric. Just Beautiful looking with that purple backgroung you used for the picture. Did that mix produce much? Great Job!It really looks like something special for sure. resinbud,
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bigherb
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snowhigh
much respect
lovely chart and pics ,id lov to hear more details on each of the sativa lines you hav worked with
the green haze pic above has a similar growth to the sk/hz i grew from mns
the black haze from BC sounds amazing
pure hazeXpurple haze X colombian black if im correct ?im curious is the pure haze the green pheno?
im curious wat does a nigerian pheno hav to do wit this line ?
i havnt seen nigerian reported in the black haze lineage
i understand th colombian black is thought to be afro-colombian having a african descent long wit som other colombian lines ,if their is any relation you kno of wit colombian black and nigerian gentics id lov to hear more about it
as neville asked id lov to hear more of a description on the TASTE/AROMAS and the high of this black haze
aswell on the green haze pheno ,im most interested in taste/aromas
i hav recently suggested a pure colombian black ,which seed stock is being made of ,this CB along wit CG are 2 lines ive been intrigued by and are on my mot wanted list at the top actually ,i think both might make great candidates
1luvbigherb
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lovely chart and pics ,id lov to hear more details on each of the sativa lines you hav worked with
the green haze pic above has a similar growth to the sk/hz i grew from mns
the black haze from BC sounds amazing
pure hazeXpurple haze X colombian black if im correct ?im curious is the pure haze the green pheno?
im curious wat does a nigerian pheno hav to do wit this line ?
i havnt seen nigerian reported in the black haze lineage
i understand th colombian black is thought to be afro-colombian having a african descent long wit som other colombian lines ,if their is any relation you kno of wit colombian black and nigerian gentics id lov to hear more about it
as neville asked id lov to hear more of a description on the TASTE/AROMAS and the high of this black haze
aswell on the green haze pheno ,im most interested in taste/aromas
i hav recently suggested a pure colombian black ,which seed stock is being made of ,this CB along wit CG are 2 lines ive been intrigued by and are on my mot wanted list at the top actually ,i think both might make great candidates
1luvbigherb
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Dr. LittleDeath
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Nevil;
I'm just curious. What are you looking for in terms of an Ultimate haze hybrid? Or put it another way what is wrong with what you already have? It seems to me that before you embark on a project you must have an objective in mind. What's your fantasy weed?
Dr. LD
I'm just curious. What are you looking for in terms of an Ultimate haze hybrid? Or put it another way what is wrong with what you already have? It seems to me that before you embark on a project you must have an objective in mind. What's your fantasy weed?
Dr. LD
Hello! Snowhigh...
Hey Resinbud,
The Purple Haze pheno of the Black Haze has the purple paper background. The Purple Haze x Panama has a larger calyx density in the buds then the Black Haze, both are special for sure. Though the Black Haze is in a league amongst the best.
Hey BH,
We've spoken before, thanks for the respect brother.
The Black Haze is actually Pure Haze (Purple Haze pheno) x Colombian Black.
Pure Haze is all of the combinations of Haze, Green, Purple and others. I believe the Pure Haze was grown from 100 to 200 seeds from Old Timers Haze not from ACE lines. These were open pollinated with all males and females to provide preservation within the lines of all expressions possible with the amount of seed provided.
The Nigerian pheno is what my friend called that phenotype of the Black Haze, which resembled to him old Nigerian sativa buds, looks like Durban Poison pencils buds.
The Colombian Black .. from my studies/people seem to point to slaves from Africa or traders from Africa who farmed these African lines in Colombian. The sources range from Congo, Nigeria..(possibly)? Angola, but honestly without genetic testing its all speculation and educated guesses.. just like western medicine.
As for taste and aroma, I believe I described the Purple Haze pheno and Grape pheno of the Black Haze in the above text. The Green Haze that I grew was sweet but also very green, not really as profound as the Purple Haze which was my fault for pulling her early due to bad weather last year that threatened the garden.. hard decision.
Hope the info helps.
Snow
We've spoken before, thanks for the respect brother.
The Black Haze is actually Pure Haze (Purple Haze pheno) x Colombian Black.
Pure Haze is all of the combinations of Haze, Green, Purple and others. I believe the Pure Haze was grown from 100 to 200 seeds from Old Timers Haze not from ACE lines. These were open pollinated with all males and females to provide preservation within the lines of all expressions possible with the amount of seed provided.
The Nigerian pheno is what my friend called that phenotype of the Black Haze, which resembled to him old Nigerian sativa buds, looks like Durban Poison pencils buds.
The Colombian Black .. from my studies/people seem to point to slaves from Africa or traders from Africa who farmed these African lines in Colombian. The sources range from Congo, Nigeria..(possibly)? Angola, but honestly without genetic testing its all speculation and educated guesses.. just like western medicine.
As for taste and aroma, I believe I described the Purple Haze pheno and Grape pheno of the Black Haze in the above text. The Green Haze that I grew was sweet but also very green, not really as profound as the Purple Haze which was my fault for pulling her early due to bad weather last year that threatened the garden.. hard decision.
Hope the info helps.
Snow
Nevil,
Burning Bush was Vietnam Black x Haze I might be able to locate the old seed catalog of it.
La Buena Hierba
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Nevil good too read on Haze(for day's lol )
hoop too learn lot more on haze here ore find good Haze genetics for my Autoflowering Haze project
i use a TFD Haze for it but i crosst auto haze now too more Haze's
(not jet a good Neville's Haze
)
the TFD Haze is a cutting from a old pack (a 60 year old friend sey so) and she looks more thai) this cutting i use for my auto haze project.
He crosst it too a sam's O Haze X Skunk#1 i still got some seeds of this cross
if you want them for testing i will look them up for you guy's
the tfd cutting is lost now do police bust by my old friend.
i making a cross now of
sam's O Haze X Skunk#1 female X a maoa Thai x OT HAZE male
if you like can sent those too.
i read you worked on the past on Ruderalis/autoflowers they beter than that time i think
Hope you can tell us on you work on this and findings please.
here are some pic of my LBH's Autoflowering Haze's
Outdoor in rainy Holland
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=4128
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=4128
Chef vom Frankental nice Bully bullmastiff offspring
friend of my had a son from him
Good luck on The Grail .
sorry for my very bad english
greetz from Amsterdam
hoop too learn lot more on haze here ore find good Haze genetics for my Autoflowering Haze project
i use a TFD Haze for it but i crosst auto haze now too more Haze's
(not jet a good Neville's Haze
)the TFD Haze is a cutting from a old pack (a 60 year old friend sey so) and she looks more thai) this cutting i use for my auto haze project.
He crosst it too a sam's O Haze X Skunk#1 i still got some seeds of this cross
if you want them for testing i will look them up for you guy's
the tfd cutting is lost now do police bust by my old friend.
i making a cross now of
sam's O Haze X Skunk#1 female X a maoa Thai x OT HAZE male
if you like can sent those too.
i read you worked on the past on Ruderalis/autoflowers they beter than that time i think
Hope you can tell us on you work on this and findings please
.here are some pic of my LBH's Autoflowering Haze's
Outdoor in rainy Holland
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=4128
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=4128
Chef vom Frankental nice Bully bullmastiff offspring
friend of my had a son from him
Good luck on The Grail .
sorry for my very bad english
greetz from Amsterdam
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bigherb
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Hey BH,
We've spoken before, thanks for the respect brother.
The Black Haze is actually Pure Haze (Purple Haze pheno) x Colombian Black.
Pure Haze is all of the combinations of Haze, Green, Purple and others. I believe the Pure Haze was grown from 100 to 200 seeds from Old Timers Haze not from ACE lines. These were open pollinated with all males and females to provide preservation within the lines of all expressions possible with the amount of seed provided.
The Nigerian pheno is what my friend called that phenotype of the Black Haze, which resembled to him old Nigerian sativa buds, looks like Durban Poison pencils buds.
The Colombian Black .. from my studies/people seem to point to slaves from Africa or traders from Africa who farmed these African lines in Colombian. The sources range from Congo, Nigeria..(possibly)? Angola, but honestly without genetic testing its all speculation and educated guesses.. just like western medicine.
As for taste and aroma, I believe I described the Purple Haze pheno and Grape pheno of the Black Haze in the above text. The Green Haze that I grew was sweet but also very green, not really as profound as the Purple Haze which was my fault for pulling her early due to bad weather last year that threatened the garden.. hard decision.
Hope the info helps.
Snow
sup brother
great minds think alike
i appreciate the info
it seems there are more reports of ot haze then the pure haze ,im curious how much the selections differ ,i havnt followed the line much but the similarities too the traits of haze as i kno them and the mns line are intriguing
i was curious how present was the incense trait in the green haze pheno but you said she was picked early soo the final product wasnt wat it could hav been
soo nigerian was just a nickname okay
the colombian lines hav intrigued me the most especially RED/GOLD/BLACK
the red n gold becaz of the frankincense trait and the black because i believe it has some connection too the colombian wacky weed of yesteryear which my uncle pat almost 70 who still smokes told me a story a while back how this was the strongest smoke he's experienced ever .reports of african and s.e asian stock coming their years back are also wat has add to my interest.becaz iunderstand these lines to also be of phenomenal quality
id lov to hear about that colombian gold/cambodian/highland thai you grew out on the chart ,id lov to hear details about the taste/aromas an effects aswell
1luvbigherb
1luvbigherb
Haze x Gravity & Haze x (Haze x Gravity)
I would really like to see some more work done with the Gravity. I love the musky fruity flavor, heavy set growth pattern, and deep indica stone with extremely dense trichome coverage. Zero gravity showed that Gravity has very good things to add to any gene pool.
I would really like to see some more work done with the Gravity. I love the musky fruity flavor, heavy set growth pattern, and deep indica stone with extremely dense trichome coverage. Zero gravity showed that Gravity has very good things to add to any gene pool.
Nevil
Breeder
Hi La Buena Hierba
Chef used to be my dog. A gentle giant with great tolerance. We were happiest when I was in my comfortable chair smoking a joint of Haze and he would sit next to me leaning heavily against my leg. If I felt a moment of apprehension, he would look at me as if to say, "don't worry mate, nothing is getting past me," and you knew he was right.
The Ruderalis looks great. It was about time that somebody did RxR.
The R factor was dominant. It was a great vehicle to hitch a ride on to fast track some back-crossing. Male flowers at the fourth internode, four generations a year, that's progress.
And BTW, for all you back-crossers out there, from the 5th generation onward, it's all about the individual male.
The number of back-crosses is meaningless, relative to that.
N.
Chef used to be my dog. A gentle giant with great tolerance. We were happiest when I was in my comfortable chair smoking a joint of Haze and he would sit next to me leaning heavily against my leg. If I felt a moment of apprehension, he would look at me as if to say, "don't worry mate, nothing is getting past me," and you knew he was right.
The Ruderalis looks great. It was about time that somebody did RxR.
The R factor was dominant. It was a great vehicle to hitch a ride on to fast track some back-crossing. Male flowers at the fourth internode, four generations a year, that's progress.
And BTW, for all you back-crossers out there, from the 5th generation onward, it's all about the individual male.
The number of back-crosses is meaningless, relative to that.
N.
La Buena Hierba
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Wow great just great i will find out for you what combination my friend had from him.
bus as you discripe looks like my friends dog
(i had pick him up lots of times in bars the Bull alway's next too him till i came)
(great breed and bloodline)
great too hear someone seying autoflower can be good for some things
on the R X R you mean i think R X H
and please you beter expleanthe it for my (ore someone else )
becorse english is hard for me
on the Back crossing do you mean my other qestion on the seedbanks making there strains like this?
ore me crossing my auto Haze too other Haze strains
and you you tell me please more on your RxNL.XNL? becorse my auto haze is RxH.XH
sorry Nevil that reading english for me is bad
hope all you guy's dont mind
peace all
LBH
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