first id like to say best wishes in creating the new grail ,im very excited to hear this is in the works
second i sorry for the long post i wish i would hav caught his thread sooner ,ive been running around ,mom got married today i just rushed back too this convo
the quoted description of tomhill haze taste/aromas was a response to me wen interestingly he mentioned he was not familiar wit incense in his line ,after tom admitting the fact he hasnt experience OHAZE of the 70's
this is wen i became aware that not many have tasted haze bros haze
and you hav to be 50+ to have had the opportunity ,soo id truly love to hear more about your exprience wit taste/aromas of the 7 parents especially the original female you compare to haze A (that kills me)
well contrary to tom hill haze description somone who has grown out a considerable amount of seeds n i highly respect who's abit of an OT has came across these traits in tom's line
musky, soapy & spicy ,it was described and recognized as the real haze taste
after hear that this is wen i bacame interested in the line ,i dont believe that the reported sweet thai side is the best or a close representation of haze IME
People who think that B.C. is the hope for the future ( if it can be resurrected) are likely to be disappointed
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i understand though its hard to hear ,wat if it was crossed too the male NH or A5 or somthing that is meet your standard of approval,would this improve the line ?
A NL5xHzA would be the best mate for it to test this out
well i understand hazeA is dead
soo how is this possible ?
maybe with the OSH clone A5 diesel pheno or im not sure how mns creates new nevs stock using nl5XhazeA but watever process that may be?seed i guess
People used to call me "gotanyhaze",
but I think that "gotanygrail" sounds pretty good too
thats unique ,i think we might be able to find somthing more suiting like the kings haze
To continue:-
What ever the legend behind the seeds that I got from Sam, It is my belief that the qualities in the Original Haze that we admire so much, come from Thai. I grew up in Western Australia and started smoking in the early 70's. Most of the Australian cannabis was descended from Thai and was grown in Queensland. Perth is as close to Thailand as it is to Queensland and W.A. got more than it's fair share of Imported Thai. I remember one batch was unparalleled and Haze A male's best progeny, reminded me of it. The guy was selling ounces of it for $30, but he had bags of what I now realise was loose resin, for $60. I wish that I had bought it.
Hence my desire to scour Australia for the best descendants of the old Thai imports to put back to the Haze
i think this is amazing ,the comparison of thai to haze A wen it thought/reported that haze C is more thai leaning,regaurdless as ive said id love to hear more about the thais' of yesteryear as there are not many reports especially on thai with the incense trait ,
it be most appreciated if you could list som the desired/experienced trait of taste/aromas of this thai line leathery /liver amzing i want to smoke these thai's,the tfd haze line from SAMS is thought to lean toward the sweet thai side that he favors,so this is intriguing to me
Northern Lights 5 crossed with Haze male C. Is the best Indica / Sativa hybrid that I've ever done. HzA male to NL5 was also excellent and was the mother of N.H. The HzC was a complex sweet aroma, while HzA produced plants with a leathery smell, more reminisent of the old Thai's.
Complex liver/ leather smell is what I'm looking for in a good Thai descenant to cross with the Haze.
this is amazing , would have thought you would mention one of the OSH clone only's such as A5 /G13/HPH ,the old thai flavors and incense/frankincense are exactly wat i look for in my haze ,there are a few with clones of NYC haze which carry the traits you speak of but i cant recommend anyone specific becaz i havnt experienced any of their product myself and it seem many hav their own idea of wat the best NYC HAZE is
soo wit this in my mind yu consider the NL5hazeC your best hybrid ,is this the current offering from mns ?or is this a different selection from shanti,as i understand the current nl5haze is from the haze c male
Damn dude you sound just like bigherb! I had a laugh thinking it was him before I read the name.
smokeon
glad i can make somone smile
As I've said before, I don't know what other seed companies are doing. I haven't smoked a good Haze in 25 years that didn't come from the 7 plants I wrote about earlier. If some one else has got good haze, where did it come from, and how old were the seeds when they were sprouted?
seems as if you havnt visited nyc in the last 20 somthin years ,iwish you could taste this NYC HAZE we speak of especially wat we call FRANKIES ,the taste/aromas are reminescent of the haze A hybrids and the old thai's you speak of
I'm looking for something that is not descended from A or C, but still Haze or Haze like.
I want to use a N.H. male
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id lov to hear your thoughts on wat was suggeted but before i forget ,although you mention you dont want to use the parents wat about the doc kovorkian or stu pheno
1luvbigherb
) so he may not be the best guy to deal with IMO. Further to that' if Nev planted ten thousand TH Hazes and selected the best, he'd probably end up with something comparable to Haze A or C, which he already has (C) see?
