Ultimate haze
REFERENCE: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid
This is prob my all time fav thread on weed growing. I'm 50 plus and been trying to preserve Haze lines, increase potency in Haze etc... on my own for more years than I can remember.
Busted five times and lost all my genetics five times (as in ALL seed taken by cops). Recently lost everything again (10,000 plus sativa/haze seeds as recorded by the court) in another bust and can't be bothered tracking down all those rare genetics from all over the world anymore. Too old and tired.
I haven't tried Nev Haze though it will probably be my next grow. I was around when Nev made it and didn't want to grow somebody else's creation when all the building blocks were still around. Unfortunately all the building block Haze lines seem dead and buried and only Nev Haze remains.
So putting NH aside... the best weed I've ever smoked bar none was Mr Asia Thai Sticks and best plants I've ever seen were Queensland Thai from same period. In thirty-five years I've never seen anything else like those Queensland plants and I've grown a lot of landrace sativas that hit twenty feet high plus. Back then some nutter in Queensland was growing ACRES of these Thai trees until he got busted.
Those Queensland plants were what turned me on to sativas but I've never seen that strain again. Biggest leaves, fastest growth... just absolutely insane. Biggest seeds I've ever seen by miles. In my ignorance I thought all sativas were like that but never seen one again.
I started chasing Haze plants to look for the Thai strains (either Mr Asia Thai or Queensland Thai) but instead of finding giant trees I kept finding these horrible spindly plants that the Dutch were calling haze plants. WTF!!!!
Over the years I've become more and more disillusioned with the weed scene worldwide. Mexico used to grow square miles of sativa trees. I've seen photos of a 25ft pure Mexican sativa that yielded 15 pound of bud. That isn't unique okay. Mexican pot was all huge trees once and so was Colombian... but Thai was even bigger and more potent.
Where have all these strains gone? I haven't smoked a real trippy sativa for years... at least not what i call trippy. I haven't seen a real Thai tree for twenty years. I've seen huge Thai bushes and I've grown sativas that stretched over twenty feet but they weren't the trees I was looking for. The structure was all wrong.
So I'm sick of trying to recreate from scratch with continual back crossing and working with huge plant numbers (try explaining breeding algorithms to the police) that put me in prison. Prison sucks.
I'm just going to cheat and grow some Neville's haze outdoors and cross it with the few pure sativas I have left (seeds rescued off the floor that had rolled under the fridge) after my last bust.
I agree with Neville... the holy Grail is out there somewhere still and I think it's a huge Thai.... which is what I've always thought.
For the record... the GIANT queensland Thais I saw (and grew a couple myself) looked nothing like any of the Thais I've seen. They looked more like some nepalese or Himalayan plants in structure but even bigger and faster with massive drooping lime green leaves with very pronounced serrations and they quickly develop a trunk rather than a stem and have a very "open" and loose structure compared to the bushy Thais I've seen.
If anybody has this strain please PM me immediately
scrubdog