Fem seeds and there impact on the future of the species known as cannabis.

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Clones would be better on that scale.You need to know your exact gram to man hour with 20 acres .

Clones are the only way to ensure the same out come .

But yes female seeds would work.

Or some GMO hybrid, with very uniform growth.
 
To give you an idea, i have 75 people working at the farm, 60 of them spend at least 7 hours out of a 10 hour work day, either taking cuttings or dropping beans, every day, and I only run 22,000, cuttings / or seedlings per green house ,and have 2 acres of coverd floor space.
 
Greezzy Guy said:
To give you an idea, i have 75 people working at the farm, 60 of them spend at least 7 hours out of a 10 hour work day, either taking cuttings or dropping beans, every day, and I only run 22,000, cuttings / or seedlings per green house ,and have 2 acres of coverd floor space.
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how much u pay, wish i could work at your ganja farm! :cool:
 
Majik said:
I was watchin GHS strain hunters and look at what ive seen, it hilarious, GHS's gear maturing into hermies!!! Arjan himself says its full of seeds, lol. I hope this sets the score regarding the risk of wasting your precious sensimilla crop when using feminized seeds.

YouTube - Green House Seed Co. 100% feminised FULL OF SEEDS!!! listen @ 1:41
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Yeah, I was so surprised to see that they released it that way and didn't stick that part in the bin. The worst part about what they are doing is giving their crap to people in India and Africa who grow it or may grow it out. Any landraces still around could get pollinated by their shite.

I did notice another thread over at icmag by the being known as Gypsy. It's about his trip to Lao, he states in it he gave out seed to people who were farmers. Are these people concious of what they are doing or is it deliberate?
There is not one post in that thread asking him why he's giving them seeds? I'm not a member there and I have only heard about how it works over with posts being deleted etc from the folks who are also members here. To me their is something missing between their thought processes/conciousness and actions with these people. They profess to love the cannabis plant but it's easy to see that their actions could help diminish any unique and useful landraces that still exist in these countries.
 
Cernunnos said:
Yeah, I was so surprised to see that they released it that way and didn't stick that part in the bin. The worst part about what they are doing is giving their crap to people in India and Africa who grow it or may grow it out. Any landraces still around could get pollinated by their shite.

I did notice another thread over at icmag by the being known as Gypsy. It's about his trip to Lao, he states in it he gave out seed to people who were farmers. Are these people concious of what they are doing or is it deliberate?
There is not one post in that thread asking him why he's giving them seeds? I'm not a member there and I have only heard about how it works over with posts being deleted etc from the folks who are also members here. To me their is something missing between their thought processes/conciousness and actions with these people. They profess to love the cannabis plant but it's easy to see that their actions could help diminish any unique and useful landraces that still exist in these countries.
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Hyb tried tackling the gypo all threads got deleted hyb got banned at every oppo, when he tried to come back they silenced him.
 
and where is this good fellow hyb in those days ? does he leaves the internet world forever ? i heard a lot about him, another population genetic lover :)
respect
 
Cernunnos said:
Yeah, I was so surprised to see that they released it that way and didn't stick that part in the bin. The worst part about what they are doing is giving their crap to people in India and Africa who grow it or may grow it out. Any landraces still around could get pollinated by their shite.

I did notice another thread over at icmag by the being known as Gypsy. It's about his trip to Lao, he states in it he gave out seed to people who were farmers. Are these people concious of what they are doing or is it deliberate?
There is not one post in that thread asking him why he's giving them seeds? I'm not a member there and I have only heard about how it works over with posts being deleted etc from the folks who are also members here. To me their is something missing between their thought processes/conciousness and actions with these people. They profess to love the cannabis plant but it's easy to see that their actions could help diminish any unique and useful landraces that still exist in these countries.
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i personally think it's deliberate. based on the fact they get there landrace first then give there shit to the Lr breeder after woulds. then if you ask why if the farmer strain was that good they wanted it would they give them there shit to replace it? which is what they say on there videos on YouTube. do they give you a answer? no they delete your post or even your acount and call you a troll.

all i can say is imoa there stopping people from finding good lr so no one can make good strains from old strain. maybe there in it with SAM skunk man? Nevil said they wanted to genetically catalog his strain. surely they cant do it with landrace strain that were here before them? but what if they breed them out?

things like replacing lr strains than they obviously want to keep them themselves just makes no sense. unless there trying to stop others from getting them for some reason. maybe like Nevil has pointed out and said meany time there cornering the market by trying to patent all existing cannabis. sound a crazy dream but the worlds full of dreamers. it wouldn't matter what shit Arjon sell he doesn't smoke it just as long as it sells and he makes money from it he happy. same goes for SAM.

i see no other reason why they would destroy something they think is important enough to travel half way around the world to get. can anyone else?
 
Batman said:
and where is this good fellow hyb in those days ? does he leaves the internet world forever ? i heard a lot about him, another population genetic lover :)
respect
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who knows... out there somewhere no doubt... think he was an aussie.. he helped bring the tool of selfing to us...
 
Uncle Peter, thanks for that info regarding icmag and that bloke you mentioned Hyb. It's good to know someone said something.


brock1 said:
i personally think it's deliberate. based on the fact they get there landrace first then give there shit to the Lr breeder after woulds. then if you ask why if the farmer strain was that good they wanted it would they give them there shit to replace it? which is what they say on there videos on YouTube. do they give you a answer? no they delete your post or even your acount and call you a troll.

all i can say is imoa there stopping people from finding good lr so no one can make good strains from old strain. maybe there in it with SAM skunk man? Nevil said they wanted to genetically catalog his strain. surely they cant do it with landrace strain that were here before them? but what if they breed them out?

things like replacing lr strains than they obviously want to keep them themselves just makes no sense. unless there trying to stop others from getting them for some reason. maybe like Nevil has pointed out and said meany time there cornering the market by trying to patent all existing cannabis. sound a crazy dream but the worlds full of dreamers. it wouldn't matter what shit Arjon sell he doesn't smoke it just as long as it sells and he makes money from it he happy. same goes for SAM.

i see no other reason why they would destroy something they think is important enough to travel half way around the world to get. can anyone else?
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Brock, after reading your post I'm starting to really consider it's been done on purpose. Any titles you know of for searches on you tube regarding this subject? You know there was something else I notice in that Strain Hunters India when I was watching it. When Arjan arrives in India, they give something to some villagers so they can make an offering. At that time a few of them turn up from different countries and they have a smoke. Arjan looks very strange when he smokes. It's like it's not natural to him. That being said maybe I look strange to when I smoke but it's just something I noticed. Maybe the only thing keeping GHS going is all the young lads (and the odd lass) that are new to gunja and wanna grow their own. Same could be saidd for many other so called breeders who sell seed it would seem. A bit of education and their all fecked, hence the need to lie and contaminate landraces (if that's really the case) and delete anything that contradicts the gospel that they are spreading etc. All for fiat money and a false image of being someone. Low self worth under it all, sad people.
 
Cernunnos said:
Uncle Peter, thanks for that info regarding icmag and that bloke you mentioned Hyb. It's good to know someone said something.




Brock, after reading your post I'm starting to really consider it's been done on purpose. Any titles you know of for searches on you tube regarding this subject? You know there was something else I notice in that Strain Hunters India when I was watching it. When Arjan arrives in India, they give something to some villagers so they can make an offering. At that time a few of them turn up from different countries and they have a smoke. Arjan looks very strange when he smokes. It's like it's not natural to him. That being said maybe I look strange to when I smoke but it's just something I noticed. Maybe the only thing keeping GHS going is all the young lads (and the odd lass) that are new to gunja and wanna grow their own. Same could be saidd for many other so called breeders who sell seed it would seem. A bit of education and their all fecked, hence the need to lie and contaminate landraces (if that's really the case) and delete anything that contradicts the gospel that they are spreading etc. All for fiat money and a false image of being someone. Low self worth under it all, sad people.
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sorry Cernunnos but i haven't been on YouTube in some time. i am using on of the pay as you go dongle things and you tube eats it.:( have you seen the African strain hunter? Arjan says to the African formers he doesnt want them to grow there lr strain he want to see them all only growing his superior cup winning strains by the field full. why if his strain is superior dose he want there seeds? if you don't take it back you ant smoking. take a look at any of Arjan video's. he's never took anything back to get stoned and feel the affects of cannabis in his life. greenhouse isn't what it was in the 90's because of bad breeding. you only need to do a comparison to see that. kind of Say's it all about greenhouse seed's. that's why there offering anything decant they can get there hands on. if they just released it than it might be OK to get. but if its a old strain then you will get a better version else were. i wish Shanti would release his Himalayan gold again. if memory serves me when SAM supposedly tried getting Nevil to let him catalog the genetics of his strain for the DEA. Arjan tried arranging a meeting with them all to sort it out. that in its self sounds strange why would he want Nevil to sort such a thing out when its nothing at all to do with him? i personal wouldn't why would anyone with out a reason want to even get involved? maybe i am paranoid but there's a few strange things go on in the cannabis world this being just one.:confused:
 
If that is true about what they are doing, adulterating areas with landraces, with hermaphrodites, then they really suck. To hell with them. They will fail and they are cursed.

I know in africa there are still landraces abound, but one source which used to have great stuff, started getting this lame stuff which was hermy, and light green and not stony at all. That is so wierd. Maybe its just a coincedence. Anyway it won't work, cause they will just stop growing it and find some better stuff elsewhere, Won't they?



But there are still many many other sources with unadulterated potent landraces, in fact the only thing I have seen in africa is landrace. That wierd hermy stuff, I don't know... But it could have easily been landrace too. I don't know. Strange.
 
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GreenintheThumb said:
He's an american and he's still lurking about. Talks to a few of us on occasion.
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Thx I always thought he was an aussie that moved to PNW/Oregon way, can't remember why I thought that , prob because of the arguments he had with fet but guess was all to do with the eXe product etc.
 
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Majik said:
I was watchin GHS strain hunters and look at what ive seen, it hilarious, GHS's gear maturing into hermies!!! Arjan himself says its full of seeds, lol. I hope this sets the score regarding the risk of wasting your precious sensimilla crop when using feminized seeds.

YouTube - Green House Seed Co. 100% feminised FULL OF SEEDS!!! listen @ 1:41
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i didnt watch the vid just now , i watched it a while back , but if i remember corectly didnt he mention there was not 1 male in sight before the comment of being full of seeds ?

i did have a good laugh though when i watched it :p

funny how they have a vid proving they sell hermie prone seeds :p
 
b0b_b1tch1n said:
i didnt watch the vid just now , i watched it a while back , but if i remember corectly didnt he mention there was not 1 male in sight before the comment of being full of seeds ?

i did have a good laugh though when i watched it :p

funny how they have a vid proving they sell hermie prone seeds :p
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What is sad is they go into these eras like Africa India collect genetics and hand the local farmers gifts of fem seeds its a bit like the white explores exploring the amazon and giving the natives diseases and wiping out the native populations great stuff Franco and co.
 
hi all

I've just rewatched the film, it is clear that Arjan doesn't smoke much. The two italian guys and simon are spliffing all the time whereas arjan is just taking a few puffs on others joint.

the moment were you have these plants full of seeds is indeed very funny! But when you see the number of fields in the area it can very well be due to wind pollination.

What really mad me jump off my seat was how they collected the seeds, they selected 1 plant in the whole field for the seeds.....and that for a strictly allogamous crop and in an open polinated field!!!
best way to skip loads of alleles and bottleneck your genepool!

what they were really interested in was charras not genetics, they did a survey of the fields in 10 mins it seems, not very professional!

cheers

bonbolos
 
Cernunnos said:
Yeah, I was so surprised to see that they released it that way and didn't stick that part in the bin. The worst part about what they are doing is giving their crap to people in India and Africa who grow it or may grow it out. Any landraces still around could get pollinated by their shite.

I did notice another thread over at icmag by the being known as Gypsy. It's about his trip to Lao, he states in it he gave out seed to people who were farmers. Are these people concious of what they are doing or is it deliberate?
There is not one post in that thread asking him why he's giving them seeds? I'm not a member there and I have only heard about how it works over with posts being deleted etc from the folks who are also members here. To me their is something missing between their thought processes/conciousness and actions with these people. They profess to love the cannabis plant but it's easy to see that their actions could help diminish any unique and useful landraces that still exist in these countries.
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joshuahazen said:
If that is true about what they are doing, adulterating areas with landraces, with hermaphrodites, then they really suck. To hell with them. They will fail and they are cursed.

I know in africa there are still landraces abound, but one source which used to have great stuff, started getting this lame stuff which was hermy, and light green and not stony at all. That is so wierd. Maybe its just a coincedence. Anyway it won't work, cause they will just stop growing it and find some better stuff elsewhere, Won't they?



But there are still many many other sources with unadulterated potent landraces, in fact the only thing I have seen in africa is landrace. That wierd hermy stuff, I don't know... But it could have easily been landrace too. I don't know. Strange.
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I completely agree! they have no respect for the plant, and they are only outthere for the money and fame.....
it even says on their packs of seeds ''Appointed by his majesty the king'' like WTF??? LMAO.... bunch of hypocrites and parasites!
 
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I've read articles about San the Skunkman collecting landrace genetics from places all over the world then leaving his inferior Skunk #1 seeds amongst the landraces in order to screw up the worlds genetics. It's been confirmed that he works with and for the US DEA for this purpose. There was an article about it in Treating Yourself a lil over a year ago. Sam has also been promoting the spread of Feminizing seed stocks in order for seed companies to reap huge profits because then eventually nobody would be able to "breed" their own. I wouldn't be suprised to hear that Sam was working with Monsanto on GMing cannabis for OUR future generations to deal with.
 
MJPassion said:
I've read articles about San the Skunkman collecting landrace genetics from places all over the world then leaving his inferior Skunk #1 seeds amongst the landraces in order to screw up the worlds genetics. It's been confirmed that he works with and for the US DEA for this purpose. There was an article about it in Treating Yourself a lil over a year ago. Sam has also been promoting the spread of Feminizing seed stocks in order for seed companies to reap huge profits because then eventually nobody would be able to "breed" their own. I wouldn't be suprised to hear that Sam was working with Monsanto on GMing cannabis for OUR future generations to deal with.
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Sounds like wild rumours man ,
they can get a bit out of control on the internet .
didnt you see the marcos apology thread?
 
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