1985 seed bank catalog

[british_hempire]

88-89 SSSC

 

[bigherb]

most appreciated

it be great to see the 84 N 86 catalogues aswell

funny how sensi still uses pics from 96

1luvbigherb

 

["#"]

great post BH!.


Nice bit of history first hand.

 

[bodhi]

nice one!!!

BH is busting out his vaults....

ill see if i can fill in some...

 

[mason jar]

Is it just me or maybe I'm just high but...don't the buds look different back in the 80's/early 90's compaired to recent strains around these days? I think the plants/buds looked much better back then. So many of those pics look like a 12 year old clone only strain I use to have.

 

[kashrocks]

Cool b_h...

it be great to see the 84 N 86 catalogues aswell

I believe one can find The Seed Bank catalog of 1986 somewhere on the forum.

Peace.

K.

 

[british_hempire]

I don't think there is a 1984 catalogue, that 1985 one is the first I think.

Do you have a link to the 86 catalogue? Never seen it myself.

Lowlands Seeds were the first seed company in Holland, never seen any catalogues of their stuff, got a pic of one of their seed packs somewhere. They became Positronics in 82 or 83, not seen a Posi catalogue for many years, I used to have one I picked up when I visited their shop in 97 not long before it closed, I bought Mango, Citral and Viking seeds, the Mango and Citral I loved indoors, the Viking I did in pots in the back garden and they went mouldy sadly.

 

[johnthepiper]

One common misunderstanding that I have noticed, Neville owned the Seedbank of Holland while SSSC was a completely separate company that Neville did not own.

 

[Nevil]

One common misunderstanding that I have noticed, Neville owned the Seedbank of Holland while SSSC was a completely separate company that Neville did not own.

I keep pointing that out.
N.

 

[WmDuffy]

'89 Seed Bank Catalog

I have the '89 catalog. I will try to borrow a mate's scanner and upload, unless someone is already working on it.
WmDuffy

 

[Avgjoe]

Thats why I come here to learn the truth and seek out knowledge and wisdom from the breeders and growers like Nev and sb

 

[kashrocks]

Do you have a link to the 86 catalogue? Never seen it myself.

Dankness is the link...

I have the '89 catalog. I will try to borrow a mate's scanner and upload, unless someone is already working on it.
WmDuffy

That would be great.

Peace.

K.

 

[Tieguanyin]

I am the only one who can't see bodhi's pictures ? everyones saying fascinating, but you have three posts with no photo attachments whatsoever - ?

 

[british_hempire]

One common misunderstanding that I have noticed, Neville owned the Seedbank of Holland while SSSC was a completely separate company that Neville did not own.

I know that, SSSC were a collective based in Maastricht. I posted their catalogues because I happened to have them, not because it's got anything to do with Nev's work.

 

[kashrocks]

From the 1987 cat...

My old White Shark used to do the same kind of stuff.
I guess it comes from the Sk side.

Peace.

K.

 

[british_hempire]

That's a fairly common mutation, seen it many times. A friend had an AK47 like that 3-4 years ago and I've had outdoor plants grow like that myself.

I've seen a few pics of plants with that formation online, I even saw a video of harvesting crops in Switzerland in the late 90s and I spotted a plant in the field with that formation.

I suppose it could come from skunk but I've seen it around and about fairly often over the years.

 

[kashrocks]

I am the only one who can't see bodhi's pictures ? everyones saying fascinating, but you have three posts with no photo attachments whatsoever - ?

Tieguanyin,

The pictures were visible before the site went down.
Admini is certainly working on it.

Peace.

K.

 

[bigherb]

SSSC were a collective based in Maastricht. I posted their catalogues because I happened to have them, not because it's got anything to do with Nev's work

id like to add

that much of sssc stock comes from SAMS just like nevils did

if you look at your post #21 of the thread you will se that SSSC actually gives the recognition to sacred seeds for m9 sk#1 n m10afghani#1


1luvbigherb

 

[kashrocks]

Ok b_h,
Since you don't seem to appreciate treasure hunt.
Here is the 86 cat.:

It was part of the article that Jim Dankness posted...
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/6-breede...de-cannabis-castle-high-times-march-87-a.html

Peace.

K.

 

[british_hempire]

Sam wasn't Sacred Seeds. This is the first ever advert for seeds that appeared in High Times in 1981, this is Sacred Seeds:

After the Sacred Seeds bust Sam turned up in Holland with a collection of strains, some he supposedly 'recued' from the Sacred Seeds bust, some from other sources, such as Cali Orange, this is his 1985 catalogue from just after arriving in Holland:

Most of SSSC stock didn't come from Sam, only a small fraction, if you look at the SSSC catalogue you'll see a lot of it is outdoor bred things from various growers all over Holland, mostly in the north, Victor Baarn, Beatrix Choice, Friesland Indica, those are all examples of strains created by individual Dutch growers. SSSC were a collective so many growers contributed strains to their catalogue.

Here is Nev's 1985 catalogue again, there isn't that much from Sam in it, just Sk1 and Afg1. Sam demands far more credit that he deserves, he's had 25 years to build hius legend and has done a good job, but it's largely mythical. Nev may well have used the Haze and Skunk from Sam a lot but he also did a lot of work with genes from other sources. Look at the 1987 catalogue, two years after buying the seeds from Sam, the focus is not on Sam's genes at all, it is on Big Bud, Hash Plant and Northern Lights. Only things from Sam in the 87 catalogue are again, the Sk1 and Afg1, Cali Orange is there too, which Nev probably got from Sam, but Cali Orange isn't Sam's work (he claims it is) it was bred by Jerry Biesler and Sam merely bought seeds of it from Jerry's ex-wife. Jerry B was the first person to have a seedbank and he also sold Cali Orange t-shirts. The Durban Poison may have come from Sam as well. Sam wrote at icmag about introducing that Durban but others say the Bay Area Durban Poison was actually from Sandy Weinstein. Sandy is also said to be the original breeder of Early Girl, which I think is another of the strains Sam sold to Nev.

Looking at the 88 catalogue, Haze appears for the first time, as does G13.

Nev can probably correct me on this, but apart from Sk1, Afg1 and Haze, I just don't see what from Sam played much of a part in Nev's work, the Afg1 was used in a couple of hybrids but soon dropped, the Sk and Haze were used a lot, but in both of those cases Sam was not the original breeder of those strains anyways, merely the vehicle that got them to the commercial scene in Holland.

I'm happy to give Sam credit for what he did do, but also keen to avoid giving him credit for things that were the work of others.

Jerry B is reclusive but can be contacted by telephone or letter, Sandy Weinstein is sadly RIP, Mendo Joe and the other key figures of Sacred Seeds are all dead, imprisoned or long gone from the scene, this is how Sam got away with claiming credit for all their work, they haven't been around to give their side of the stories.