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[Deach69]

@Deach69 said: "I do have my suspicions about @longball

Sez the man who is so fascinated with his own feet that he takes pictures of them and posts them on online forums! WTF! lol

Me? I'm liking the Autoflower Girls! Loads of them! (I said 'loads' hehehe)

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Well, you know what they say about foot size and as you certainly noticed, I happen to be well endowed. I'm proud of my feet

That van is hilarious, and quite nice as well

 

[Apollo]

Hi Guys this the 10 most common mutation in cannabis some they say 11 some others 7 .
Unfortunately the available information are many and some times contradicting each others so I decided to make a generic post and not go in much in details to avoid share misinformation.


This is my list

Cannabis with “stringy” flowers
(one example was @easty ABC photos he shared with us) and is also usual to occur to strains with tropical origins.


Polyploidy or Gigantism in Cannabis :
Cannabis is a diploid plant, with two sets of chromosomes. Is Rarer but can occurs spontaneous polyploidism if the process of cell division malfunctions during development, and it can be also be induced in plants that would otherwise develop normally by treatment with a powerful mutagenic chemical called colchicine. Colchicone is highly toxic and should only be handled by those who understand the risks and know how to mitigate them! Dont try it at home!!!!!!!!!


Secondary buds on leaves
( This Mutations Was also have recently reported to our forum from a member) and is not so rare mutation also called piggyback mutation.


Whorled phyllotaxy :
Phyllotaxy (from Ancient Greek φύλλον (phúllon) 'leaf', and τάξις (táxis) 'arrangement')
is the botanical term for the arrangement of leaves on a plant stem. @dioecious photos I believe are some kind of Phylotaxy mutation.


ABC, Australian Bastard Cannabis or Cannabis Australis

Also the Cannabis that grows like a vine (usually apperas from ABC crossings)

"DucksFoot" Cannabis or Leaf-webbing :
Is a useful mutation, as it can develops true-breeding strains and this mutation make the leafs stuck together.


Tentacular cannabis or "creeping phenotype"
Is rare mutation and usually occurs is tropical strains grown in very humid conditions. and the lower branches instead grow toward the light grow towards the ground and in many cases they creat new roots at the site of contact .

Albino or variegated cannabis.
( dont mix this up with light Bleaching that occurs from intense lighting )

But some sources say the opposite that intense lighting can trigger this genetic characteristic from certain strains ,Something that I dont personal agree with.
So variegation occurs when some of the genes that control production of chlorophyll and other pigments do not express correctly, causing distinctive patterns of pigmented and non-pigmented sections on leaves and buds.
In some extreme cases, the genes that control production of chlorophyll may all be switched-off, and the plant will be entirely albino.
This mutation looks good but is not useful because this plants cant reach their full potential due the luck of photosynthesis.


Poly embryonic seeds or "twins" Is something I personally like so much.
Polyembryonic seeds means that the seeds contain more one seedling !!!!'
It is possible to remove the seed casing after a day or two and gently separate the two seedlings by washing them .( is very delicate process)
This following I found it very interesting and I would like to test (while one of the two plants will be the normal offspring of its mother and father, the other will be a clone of its mother.)


Another for many Mutation is the fox tailed cannabis but for me is hard to believe and I need more evidence for this claim since I believe is certain strains characteristics and not a Mutation

Please correct me or ad more information in the subject.

-SaveTheBrains

 

[Mr. Brown]

Secondary buds on leaves
( This Mutations Was also have recently reported to our forum from a member) and is not so rare mutation also called piggyback mutation.

I think I just found such a leaf on Shit #4

 

[DannyTwoJoints]

Hi Guys this the 10 most common mutation in cannabis some they say 11 some others 7 .





Poly embryonic seeds or "twins" Is something I personally like so much.
Polyembryonic seeds means that the seeds contain more one seedling !!!!'
It is possible to remove the seed casing after a day or two and gently separate the two seedlings by washing them .( is very delicate process)
This following I found it very interesting and I would like to test (while one of the two plants will be the normal offspring of its mother and father, the other will be a clone of its mother.)

-SaveTheBrains

Mango Haze - polyembryonic: I usually catch this when germinating seeds, as two taproots are easy enough to spot. This little twin only popped up a week later.



Freakshow...

 

[dioecious]

Here are some pictures of the plant and not just the leaves, all the plants are the same clone. When N. started the grail thread it was the plant I immediately considered, but I had lost it in a scare the prior year, and it wasn’t easy to get back. In fact it was almost luck bc the clones named it were all definitely not pure Thai and it had lost its original name and was tightly held under a new name. Hard to mistake the plant though, and always fun to tell folks the history of their treasured wife.

 

[#NightMare#]

Please!
See how it’s not just the leaflets, but the petiole/leaf stem splits often too. As far as the genetics, it was a (visibly) mutant seed found from a wild cannabis plant in the late 70s in Thailand.

Ive seen some like that before on a old thai strain. Some times the middle leaf would come out shorter. And on some it was like two separate half leaves that had mutated together. How do you find your clone to be, is it quite potent ? Thanks

 

[dioecious]

Ive seen some like that before on a old thai strain. Some times the middle leaf would come out shorter. And on some it was like two separate half leaves that had mutated together. How do you find your clone to be, is it quite potent ? Thanks

The short central leaflet is more common than the forked central.

Yeah, she’s so potent, she makes real stuff happen that feels like a psychotic break. Then you have to really raise up and learn some limitation, and the problem (that’s real) just goes away. 17 weeks to be done (the other camp says 120 days), but i knew a guy who had it down so well he’d be able to get another harvest every five weeks after the 17 until the plant exceeded its space. I’d compare the quality to a well selected NH. The 5C mango and the elite silver haze they had down south in Florida couldn’t compare and we called the Cuban black haze “hazers” meaning haze beasters (they were really all pretty nice by any other standards).

 

[#NightMare#]

The short central leaflet is more common than the forked central.

Yeah, she’s so potent, she makes real stuff happen that feels like a psychotic break. Then you have to really raise up and learn some limitation, and the problem (that’s real) just goes away. 17 weeks to be done (the other camp says 120 days), but i knew a guy who had it down so well he’d be able to get another harvest every five weeks after the 17 until the plant exceeded its space. I’d compare the quality to a well selected NH. The 5C mango and the elite silver haze they had down south in Florida couldn’t compare and we called the Cuban black haze “hazers” meaning haze beasters (they were really all pretty nice by any other standards).

Sounds like some good stuff. Im sure your happy to have it back in your stable. Sounds like one to keep around for sure.

 

[dioecious]

Yeah. To be honest as much as she seems fine (even healthier than in the 90s and next decade), I worry about an annual plant that is as old as HID lighting. We have so many old clones around and so few males capable of faithfully reproducing them without hybridization. When N. was looking for a sativa to cross to NH, I immediately thought of the plant, and I’m quite excited that in the years it took me to find her again that Shanti managed to make what very well could be a superior source of Neville’s Haze genes in his Holy Grail offering. Having a few pounds of seeds in a freezer that can reliably make plants very much like my few treasured mothers seems like the only way to be sure that I’m unlikely to loose that funk. With a few exceptions I plan to use all the wonderful stuff shanti nearly gives us at the auction to preserve the spoils of my life of adventure.

 

[#NightMare#]

Yeah. To be honest as much as she seems fine (even healthier than in the 90s and next decade), I worry about an annual plant that is as old as HID lighting. We have so many old clones around and so few males capable of faithfully reproducing them without hybridization. When N. was looking for a sativa to cross to NH, I immediately thought of the plant, and I’m quite excited that in the years it took me to find her again that Shanti managed to make what very well could be a superior source of Neville’s Haze genes in his Holy Grail offering. Having a few pounds of seeds in a freezer that can reliably make plants very much like my few treasured mothers seems like the only way to be sure that I’m unlikely to loose that funk. With a few exceptions I plan to use all the wonderful stuff shanti nearly gives us at the auction to preserve the spoils of my life of adventure.

I understand what your saying about old clones. A good way to clean one up and revive it is by using the invirto technology.in alot of cases the treated sample can come out as if its from fresh seed when cleaned up and sterilized properly. There are other ways of creating a male you can use, almost identical to the female, that will to some degree by pass the inbreeding depression that could occur if you were to just repeatedly stack that single set of genes over and over ontop of themselves, but it takes some work to put together.
Sounds like you have some plans in mind, let us know how things work out please.

 

[dioecious]

I am definitely geeking out on this now. Reversing the female Thai and doing anther culture, and using mac1’s reversed pollen to make hapoid embryos, and doubling the chromosomes to doubled haploid using herbicide, is definitely on the table.

I wonder how vigorous she’d be with a taproot ha ha

 

[Apollo]

Which is best portable Vaporizer and why ? Is it Mighty ? or ? Please share your experience

-SaveTheBrains

 

[Mr. Brown]

Which is best portable Vaporizer and why ? Is it Mighty ? or ? Please share your experience

-SaveTheBrains

I really enjoy my DaVinci Miqro. It is definitely not the best vaporizer but works great for me. I like the Smart Paths temperature settings, the overall style, it is very easy to use and doesn't look like a vaporizer at all.

DaVinvi Miqro

 

[Virus Myth]

I love my volcano classic. I have 3 of them. Still working after all these years, with the exception of the first that
I dropped on the floor (was stoned and tripped on the wire).

Still remember the time I was working in Stuttgart and decided to visit their factory in Tutlingen back in 2005.
The owner is a very nice person who took the time to show me the shop floor and all the first prototypes in his office.
Wouldnt recommend the digital version though. It stopped working after a few months.

 

[Swifty]

Which is best portable Vaporizer and why ? Is it Mighty ? or ? Please share your experience

-SaveTheBrains

I own a Tinymight vape, best portable vape I've used.
For over 20 years I was a smoker, I tried a lot of vaporizers in that time but they all lacked that punch for me.
It's difficult to describe but this vape hits different (thick, lung tingling vape). You can almost put as much material in there as you wish. It does require cleaning after a while.
Nowadays I prefer it to smoking (or it is me getting older).
They seem to have a second version now, looks good.

I really recommend it to smokers!

 

[Ptree]

I tried Arizer air II, that is somwhat good, but cleaning the glass is horror.
Then Gaia Linx, it is mediocre.

And just recently I bought xmax V3 pro... Iam pretty satisfied with this one all around

 

[Apollo]

I really enjoy my DaVinci Miqro. It is definitely not the best vaporizer but works great for me. I like the Smart Paths temperature settings, the overall style, it is very easy to use and doesn't look like a vaporizer at all.

DaVinvi Miqro

Good point mate ! I agree the best is the one that works best for you. Sounds like a nice a stealthy vape of decent quality with great portability potentials.
Something that the most effective vapes out there missing. Portability is the must for most.

I love my volcano classic. I have 3 of them. Still working after all these years, with the exception of the first that
I dropped on the floor (was stoned and tripped on the wire).

Still remember the time I was working in Stuttgart and decided to visit their factory in Tutlingen back in 2005.
The owner is a very nice person who took the time to show me the shop floor and all the first prototypes in his office.
Wouldnt recommend the digital version though. It stopped working after a few months.

Portable Volcano? .

Volcano is one by far all around best Desktop Vapes and the whip thingi looks amazing.

I own a Tinymight vape, best portable vape I've used.
For over 20 years I was a smoker, I tried a lot of vaporizers in that time but they all lacked that punch for me.
It's difficult to describe but this vape hits different (thick, lung tingling vape). You can almost put as much material in there as you wish. It does require cleaning after a while.
Nowadays I prefer it to smoking (or it is me getting older).
They seem to have a second version now, looks good.

I really recommend it to smokers!

The Tiny might is made from a small company in Finland this means pure quality and perfection with 1 years warranty.
Is in their culture to make good quality staff they dont play around. I have never tried the tiny Might but I have my self the Tubo Evic that is very similar in the performance but not in portability tiny might is by far more portable.
I have assumed the same, that this style of convection vapes that can reach high temperatures and produce huge clouds are good for smokers that try to cross over.

I use Mighty home and Crafty + for vacations and trips I find them both very participial and very easy to use but I really hate that you cant change the batteries on them.
Otherwise this is my favorits but I defenetly need to try The Tiny might2 to have a real opinion on it.

I tried Arizer air II, that is somwhat good, but cleaning the glass is horror.
Then Gaia Linx, it is mediocre.

And just recently I bought xmax V3 pro... Iam pretty satisfied with this one all around

How Arizer air 2 draw resistance/airflow was it easy ?

 

[Ptree]

Good point mate ! I agree the best is the one that works best for you. Sounds like a nice a stealthy vape of decent quality with great portability potentials.
Something that the most effective vapes out there missing. Portability is the must for most.

Portable Volcano? .

Volcano is one by far all around best Desktop Vapes and the whip thingi looks amazing.


The Tiny might is made from a small company in Finland this means pure quality and perfection with 1 years warranty.
Is in their culture to make good quality staff they dont play around. I have never tried the tiny Might but I have my self the Tubo Evic that is very similar in the performance but not in portability tiny might is by far more portable.
I have assumed the same, that this style of convection vapes that can reach high temperatures and produce huge clouds are good for smokers that try to cross over.

I use Mighty home and Crafty + for vacations and trips I find them both very participial and very easy to use but I really hate that you cant change the batteries on them.
Otherwise this is my favorits but I defenetly need to try The Tiny might2 to have a real opinion on it.



How Arizer air 2 draw resistance/airflow was it easy ?

It is resistant for me, yes.. One needs to take longer draws and I seem not to like it...
Overall, from my vapes, so far the xmax is giving me the flavour for about two minutes, on the arizer, i got flavours jkust from first two hits.. Dont know why..

 

[Swifty]

The Tiny might is made from a small company in Finland this means pure quality and perfection with 1 years warranty.
Is in their culture to make good quality staff they dont play around. I have never tried the tiny Might but I have my self the Tubo Evic that is very similar in the performance but not in portability tiny might is by far more portable.
I have assumed the same, that this style of convection vapes that can reach high temperatures and produce huge clouds are good for smokers that try to cross over.

I use Mighty home and Crafty + for vacations and trips I find them both very participial and very easy to use but I really hate that you cant change the batteries on them.
Otherwise this is my favorits but I defenetly need to try The Tiny might2 to have a real opinion on it.

It is indeed a well build vape @Apollo, if you have the opportunity definitly try it.
Changing batteries is a bit of a hassle if you don't have any coins nearby but I see that this is dealt with in there 2nd version.
I did not try the vapes you have but will keep my lungs open when I see one!
Oh and the warranty is 10 years on the Tiny.

Greetings!

 

[sneakyfeck]

is there anyone who can remove the paywall of this article? I would like to read it. : )

The Neuroprotective Properties, Functions, and Roles of Cannabis sativa in Selected Diseases Related to the Nervous System
Author(s): Onesimus Mahdi, Mohamad T.H. Baharuldin, Nurul Huda M. Nor, Samaila M. Chiroma, Saravanan Jagadeesan and Mohamad A.M. Moklas*
Volume 21, Issue 1, 2021

Published on: 27 January, 2021

Page: [20 - 38] Pages: 19

DOI: 10.2174/1871524921666210127110028

The Neuroprotective Properties, Functions, and Roles of Cannabis sativa in Selected Diseases Related to the Nervous System

Background: Cannabis and its extracts are now being explored due to their huge health benefits. Although, the effect they elicit, whether on humans or rodents, may vary based on the age of the animal/subject and or the time in which the extract is administered. However, several debates exist...

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