questions for Nevil on afghani and kush lines (the other grail!)

hello,

if you read the post, DIRECTLY ABOVE yours (#179), you might find some relevant information.

i noticed this is not the first post asking.

regards,
 
I truly need to talk to.Neville as it is important that I Speak to.the man who made this entire revolution and I want the chance to speak to the man who im pretty sure will remember my uncle and i want to ask him some things about my late uncle. He is someone that can tell me things about my family and i beg you to talk to him and see if he will reconsider as I don't want to get so close to.hit a dead end again. I have some things he will want and I only can trust him when it comes to this matter!
 
Ihavethebestgenetics1 said:
I truly need to talk to.Neville as it is important that I Speak to.the man who made this entire revolution and I want the chance to speak to the man who im pretty sure will remember my uncle and i want to ask him some things about my late uncle. He is someone that can tell me things about my family and i beg you to talk to him and see if he will reconsider as I don't want to get so close to.hit a dead end again. I have some things he will want and I only can trust him when it comes to this matter!
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Yeah, well you probably won't talk to Nevil here he is still out there just not with Mr. Nice not even sure if he is even breeding did see him doing something just forget what. Lol
 
i think last year someone released VERY expensive seeds allegedly by him, but someone contacted neville, and he said that was BS, but he was breeding again,

that was the word on the bullshit vine, last year i think...

memory is a bit poor though.
 
I'm pretty certain that Nevil is on the Board of "AusCann".
Another member of the board is a previous MP of Australia.
Pretty legit, pretty large company.

They want to produce medicinal products from Cannabis, do the research etc. with the ongoing legalization worldwide. It's big business.

And of course they need a master breeder to have the right basis from which to do their research/refinement for medicinal products.

That's where Nevil comes in. Being Australian and all and with this opportunity he can finally come out of hiding and start breeding again.

So from what I know, that's where he is at right now and that's where we will see him again in the future.
Can just google "AusCann" and "Nevil" and you should get filled in real fast.

Doesn't really matter though, we have Shantibaba.
 
Nevil Rocks!

Loved this thread, actually being able to read what Nevil has posted about the Maple Leaf line is Amazing. Such insight, knowledge, and exsperience is truly a treasure to the world. It is a great loss to us that he no longer wishes to post. I used to love reading his and Mr. Shantibabas post about their experiences breeding the founding strains of the cannabis Industry. Thank our lucky stars we still have Mr. Shantibaba :D
 
Hi All

well it is public knowledge that Phytoplant Research a Spanish company will be supplying the genetics to the new AusCann Nolfolk island grow project . This company is well known to us at MNS and close friends on personal level...so while you all maybe extrapolating like people do on new public shareholding companies due to hit the market, it would seem that the genetics are based on other peoples work. People who can prove what is in the seed and have it registered and licensed.
So i do wish Australia well with this new decision to work together with Phytoplant Research, but it does seem a little far fetched a story to believe Canada needs to import anything from Australia when it comes to cannabis as their programs in this industry have been working a lot longer than Australia. Anyway as we all know the hype in creating new public companies is to get the share price up, with tit bits of leaked information .

all the best Sb
 
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Dieselhaze840 said:
Loved this thread, actually being able to read what Nevil has posted about the Maple Leaf line is Amazing. Such insight, knowledge, and exsperience is truly a treasure to the world. It is a great loss to us that he no longer wishes to post. I used to love reading his and Mr. Shantibabas post about their experiences breeding the founding strains of the cannabis Industry. Thank our lucky stars we still have Mr. Shantibaba :D
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Obviously you weren't here when Nevil "graced" us with his presence. It's better that he is not here. We all loved it when he started posting. It's too bad he was not the "inspiration" we all hoped he would be. Go back and read all the crap he posted. In the end he had to leave, and the site was better off without him. Good luck to him, but don't for one second think he is a great loss to this website or to the seed business in general. Thank you to Shanti for keeping Nevil's work alive. Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to you all!

M.
 
isnt it against the tou to talk about members who arent here anymore to defend themselves?

thats your opinion morphote, and your welcome to it.

others, like myself, were here when nevil was on the forum.
it is not better that he is not here.
i dont know what "inspiration" you were looking for from him, too bad you couldnt find it i guess.
ive read everything he posted here, as you have too i bet.
not very much of it was "crap" as you say.
in the end he was forced to leave, and we are not better off for it.

it is a great loss to this website and to the seed industry in general.
i have no problem admitting that i have seen better quality in the few seeds from nevil than i have in the MNS gear that ive seen so far.
why is this?
shanti has long standing mothers and fathers that i only assume were kept because they are great plants.
nevil, on the other hand, slapped some stuff together from stuff sent to him/shared by the community, and in very little time managed to produce a few great crosses that are being enjoyed by far less people than there ought to be.
That is due to supply and distribution issues much more than demand.
lots of people wanted to try his work, lots of people got ripped off trying to obtain them.

basically it comes down to the fact that nevils and shanti's combined efforts are far greater than either could have achieved on their own.
so it is a loss to the community that they are not working together, pooling resources to create stuff that is better than they could do alone.

right now, the community does not have mullumbimby madness x Haze C.
this could be done without nevil, using shanti's MM line, but its in shanti's hands to make it happen. even C5 x MM would be something different
im waiting....
is grail widow the best that can be done? doubt it...
i havent seen it yet, maybe i can score some this year and compare to some of the other sativa stuff.
 
Hi All

well everyone has a right to an opinion and if it is not derogatory it is fine.

While we all wish Nevil good luck with Australia and this Norfolk island project i must remind you Howard and I offered Nevil to join in to the real medical cannabis project we formed and have run since 2009 with Jaime as CBD crew. Some 15 other companies joined and we produce for them all after successfully doing large work to make their exclusives CBD enriched...and this was nothing to do with Nevil or his plants.

Since the announcement of AusCann and Phytoplant Research I have found out that the only legal seed strains that are actually being traded to form this concern are 2 legal hemp strains devoid of THC or lower than .3% of THC. So the so called big announcements and legality of the project is as many are already doing and based on hemp strains ...so to be clear it looks like yet another so called pharma company with big names and so called contracts that bind these companies in a working relationship are doing most of the press releases without full , honest information to raise venture capital to try and get it started. If you check Western Australia companies who already did things like this before you will see it did not go as all thought it would! So again buyer beware.

I am in favour of all countries doing a legal cannabis project especially for medical patients while we accumulate new research information. However the fact is no doctors will prescribe anything pharma until they are confident that the medical research is fulfilling the aims of the medicine or ailments. The true fact is there is a few bits of published research from Dr Guzman from Spain on rats, and not much more to support cancer and cannabis treatment so until this area is in full swing, I am afraid the reality is still more marketing ploys to raise funds to research.

Wishing you all a successful 2016 and all the best from MNS crew. Shantibaba
 
Happy new year to you too Shantibaba,

it is my believe that the development in the US is irreversible.
It is just too much tax money that the states gained through legalization. Nobody will want to leave that on the table.
Also: It was always the Americans who were pushing the war on drugs and cannabis in particular for their own, mostly economically motivated, reasons.
Now they made a 180° flip and are among the first countries to have it widely legalized.

With the Americans leading the way, other countries will soon follow. Not because the Americans are such revolutionary visionaries but because they were the attack dogs barking behind marijuana criminalization and making sure all the other countries followed in line (I remember Germany for example didn't want to criminalize cannabis when the US demanded them to but fell in line after the US threatened to cut Bayer off from heroin/opium coming through Egypt, which Bayer needed for their research at the time).

So now that the US attack dogs aren't barking any more but are in fact higher and chiller than most of the nations THEY THEMSELVES PRESSURED INTO CRIMINALIZING CANNABIS.... I doubt it will take more than 5-10 years for worldwide legalization.

When that happens, Cannabis can finally be properly analyzed in laboratories. Its substances broken down etc. etc.

We will get to the point where it is commonly possible to analyze a cannabis strain in the lab and say what effects it will have, how it will taste etc. etc. without anyone ever having smoked it (or used it as an oil or whatever).

At that point the medicinal properties which we all know cannabis holds, will be vigorously explored and bloodsuckers like Monsanto will start to patent their own strains and try and force everyone to grow those etc. etc.

Fun times ahead.
 
Reply to morphote

Hello morphote, I may have very few post, and be a relatively new registered member, but I have spent most of the last 7-8 years reading up on Cannabis and have often found Mr. Nice forums to be my favorite "watering hole" to learn from. One reason being that I am able to learn about the greatest strains ever bred from actual growers and even the legendary breeders themselves. I dont claim to have read every or even most of Nevilles post (with that much reading who can remember everything!) but I have no recollections of any post that would make me feel the way you yourself feel regarding Mr. Neville, niether am I interested in such post. If I were lucky enough to ever converse with Neville, Shantibaba (my personal favorite Master Breeder!), DJ Short or any other breeder, his actions good or bad, would not detter me from learning as much as possible from them, niether would it make me think less of them or their strains.
We are all human and inevitably others are bound to dislike us or our actions, and as such we should all learn to roll one and forget about our animosity. I see many on here amd other sites (in every walk of life really) who take events and comments personally which really have very little or nothing to do with them. Though I may become irate at some of the comments directed at myself and others I try and let it roll off of my back, why let it upset me? My depression and chronic anxiety does that already.

Peace DieselHaze840
 
Nevil said:
Maple Leaf was not related to Northern Lights and didn't cross well with pure NL. Too much Indica. Hybrids of both strains dis cross well when they contained more sativa.
ML loves Skunk1. My nose and intuition tells me that these two are distantly related.

Jim Ortega is around and can speak for himself if he chooses. I get the feeling that he has spoken before and few listened.

The Afghan/hash plant is probably HPxNL1. Not a great yielder but gee it was strong.
N.
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Here is a bit to go with the NL thread that has been reactivated.
 
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