Who has the real RoadKill Skunk ?

n2ishun said:
Perhaps if you knew what 'intellect' was you could use it to ascertain that there is zero difference between an author and a random internet poster.
They both are humans, full of self pride and error prone.

You probably thought you posted some sort of subtle insult, but you unknowingly displayed an IQ of at best 85.
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That was exactly my point.

There was no subtlety intended. You make claims with no backing except your braggadocio.

"Can't make sativa hashish"....WTF?
 
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lol, chill out grandpa. You DID imply that earlier. NOW you are back peddling. Good job mr 4g@watt :)


Yes, I am officially trolling you now.
Still totally irritated by your baseless claims of 4g@watt. And now your "expertise" re: skunk, like you crap knowledge but are off in the weeds with your "I know better than the books" BS.

Sorry imsupernice and everybody else.
 
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imsupernice said:
Wow man

Im ashamed i fail to see why it would be more indica i just see a bigger leaf lol

Can you tell me why you would say that ?
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I agree with you that in reality they are both sativa phenos, and why I call the one indica-like, rather than indica. They should be a large leaf sativa and a smaller leaf sativa, as distinguishing phenotypes. The old texts and a lot of people here are hung up that Lebbies are indicas though. Some places like SeedFinder have posted that there are the two pehenos of Lebanese landraces, an indica and a sativa. Many prefer the larger leaf pheno, but I prefer to smoke the smaller leaf pheno.

This is he description from SeedFinder for RSC sourced Lebanese:

1.: short, compact, indica-dominant Phenotype #1
2.: long, stretched, sativa-dominant Phenotype #2
 
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Might be because the plant is shorter like an indica but interesting leaves to say the least :)

Might be an hybrid i guess its not pure indica or sativa anymore ?
 
You did basically say you couldn't make hash with sativa.. hence all the comments after you speak outta your ass. Constantly..
 
imsupernice said:
Might be because the plant is shorter like an indica but interesting leaves to say the least :)

Might be an hybrid i guess its not pure indica or sativa anymore ?
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I do not believe Lebanese is a modern hybrid, but an old strain dating back many centuries. Genetically it is not closely related to any other modern strains tested, including any of the skunks. There is no evidence that anyone used Lebanese to make any modern hybrids. This is likely because seeds from Lebanese plants were virtually non-existent in California as most all (if not all) the product that came from Lebanon back in the day was in the form of hashish, which had no seeds.

If you read the latest genetic profiling of Cannabis, they indicate that what we call indica and sativa drug strains are more related than people think, and they should not be the division of Cannabis species, as they were put under during the 1970s. Here is a paper published about that in '05 that says that all Cannabis drug strains are all indica, or that they would be better grouped under one species (which they call indica):

https://www.researchgate.net/public...idence_for_Speciation_in_Cannabis_Cannabaceae

The sativa gene pool includes fiber/seed landraces from Europe, Asia Minor, and Central Asia, and ruderal populations from Eastern Europe. The indica gene pool includes fiber/seed landraces from eastern Asia, narrow-leafleted drug strains from southern Asia, Africa, and Latin America, wide-leafleted drug strains from Afghanistan and Pakistan, and feral populations from India and Nepal. A third putative gene pool includes ruderal populations from Central Asia. None of the previous taxonomic concepts that were tested adequately circumscribe the sativa and indica gene pools.
 
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Wow ! means you could be the first to create a super hybrid from lebanese.

Do you have any picture of acapulco gold or colombian gold you have grown if you have ? and descriptions of phenos effect etc..
 
Hi all. Yes, 2 plants in Lebanon. Lower quality Bekaa valley, Higher quality Lebanese Upper Mountain. There's a story on Swami about the LUM being taken to Mexico in the late 70s and crossed with the Guerrero, and possibly being the origin of the garlic/onion/minty aromas. They also have RKS/Uruapan crosses which sound promising.
 
Growstone said:
You did basically say you couldn't make hash with sativa.. hence all the comments after you speak outta your ass. Constantly..
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G `day GS

I do have good reading comprehension .
And that`s what I read too . Can`t dry sift satties .

I thought ; some kid big noting himself . It will only be a matter of time before some one who actually knows what they are talkin about corrects him .
I would have corrected him myself . But I`m tired of educating arrogant newbs .

Different sized screen is all .

But ,,, then junior want`s to deny he said it at all . OK ...

Thanks for sharin

EB .
 
imsupernice said:
Wow ! means you could be the first to create a super hybrid from lebanese.

Do you have any picture of acapulco gold or colombian gold you have grown if you have ? and descriptions of phenos effect etc..
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There are lots of Lebby growers out there, as I have been trading seeds of that for a while now. Blue Hemp, RSC and Ace have also sold a lot of Lebby beans in the past decade. Lebby is best for breeding to move harvesting up to September for places like the PNW. It also has light terps so whatever you breed it with is apt to be more dominant. It is also not that strong a strain in THC%, but has high CBD%. It has an even high but not the knock down OG crush that people seem to want these days. I smoke it a lot, as I like 2 hit weed. Easy to control the high. From what my friends in Lebanon say the strains are the same in the mountains as the Bekaa Velley, its the climate that is different and the mountain grows get water. The Bekaa Valley stuff is not irrigated so its stressed. They grow a lot of grapes in the Bekaa Valley for that reason. Restrict grape vigor and you get more intense flavors in grapes. So dry farming is good for that. No so good for growing weed.

I have never grown Acapulco Gold. I never smoked any Acapulco gold that was that good. It was middle of the road Mexican at best. Far better was available from elsewhere in Guerrero. I have grown Colombian Gold, but that was in California when film cameras and Polaroids were all there were. So no photos. Colombian finishes way to late to grow up here, as does Zacatecas Purple.
 
Yes Swami Organic Seeds, No not that swami select wanker. There's variation, like a lot of these seeds. That's why you get a free pack with every order. Personally I have had good luck with SOS. Have a look at their ig page.
 
That's what they've just started to call themselves. swami select put a cease and desist order on them selling seeds in calif. under their own name. Even though they've been around much longer. I think it's some kind of reaction to that. select is also a no credit given strain thief. My swami indica is berry glue fire. US sales only though.
 
Swami Seeds surely is not something like GHS or whatever.

But if they belong in the "Breeders Hall of Fame" is another debate imho.

The Blue Orca Haze thread here on the board and what I heard elsewhere certainly has me interested.

Mainly what interests me and most is Clackamas Coot's involvement and his "The One" story and how it is involved in (almost) all the strains they offer over at SOS.
That of course sounds promising but who really knows...

Don't think I can get them here in Europe anyway but SOS is currently on my "if I ever make it to the US"- list along with BOG and a few others.
 
On the topic of RKS, I'd like to know if anyone here can describe the seed morphology for me. I assume most of it was grown as sinsemilla, and that bagseed was rare? Any characteristic seedling leaf morphology or plant structure features? How early in veg did it start to give off odors that set it apart as RKS?

The reason I ask is because I have been contacted by someone who wants to gift me a portion of a seed collection that dates from 1977 to 1984. Interestingly, this seed collection has been kept frozen and I'm told the seeds are viable without extreme germination measures. I'm told they are mostly sativas with some skunks and a few heavy Indicas. So there could be some RKS beans in there, and I'd like to know what to look out for in the seeds themselves and in the seedlings.

Jesus, finding RKS in old seeds would be a holy grail; not mine personally but for a lot of others.
 
^^^super cool! Best of luck!

I think the final product is the ONLY way you'll be able to judge.

Who's version of which skunk archetype would you decide to look for?

Here's a common scenario that bothers me WAY more than it should. Leaf Morphology as an indicator of % of sativa.

IMO, the leaf morphology is a red herring because wide leaves seem to be a dominant trait. Add to that, each plant can make different versions of fan leaves depending on the environment, but especially, what phase of growth.

It's always the effect that is most important TO ME. Others important points are speed, yield, disease resistance, but they are secondary to effect.
 
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