Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid

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Okay guys, please remain on topic and cease from the rude behavior.

Thank you for your cooperation,
Jesse

i just love how you quote me insted of your good friend the troll , and WE ARE ON TOPIC , he is giving hints to how mulum is like haze and i am asking for more hints , so HAHA jessie your plan to attack me backfired

oh and take your pm's and ,,,,, ;)

i dont read em i just delete em
 
i just want to state, to one and all, is be aware of what you speak or you will end up wading through your own bs.

i would like to hear a bit more on this fat leaf haze. is earlier flowering time one of her qualities? i will speak up and state that i have seen indy leaning hazes that appear to yield better, or perhaps fatter buds is a better term? often pics do not give a good indication of plant height. peace-biteme
 
These people are honestly the dads army of the cannabis world and all there here for is to disrupted this site and to destroy it and it is really a sad thing to see what they have done to this site.

It's is truly funny to read hempies responses. When ever someone has a different opinion or presents a different, but valid point, hempie resorts to calling them trolls and "here to ruin the site" as his only defense.

Hempie, you are now known as the laughing stock of the online canna community. You are the type of person I reference when teaching my children how to spot a fake.


For all the members, new and old, here is a piece I had my children read.


HOW TO SPOT A FAKE

1. Creation of a compelling alternative narrative. While in reality the subject matter requires education, dispassionate thinking, and nuance, in the Bullshit Syndrome this is replaced with a story that seems more like a film script — with heightened drama and intrigue, where some mysterious unseen entity is pulling the strings, typically with ulterior motives of control. These theories are an improvement on reality, where the narrative is more exciting, interesting, or comforting on a human emotional scale than the mainstream account. They may be popularized through grassroots propaganda materials.

2. Appeal to simple-mindedness and intuition. Since the subject matter is difficult and nuanced, the Bullshit version is made more palatable and graspable. This may explain why these people are much more certain of their convictions (to the point of insularity and tribalism) than their opponents; while most people are likely to admit mistakes or concede points, the Bullshitter concedes nothing. The Bullshitter presents child-like rhetorical questions that appeal to the desire for easy answers and comprehensive understanding, and tells us that the mainstream account just doesn't make sense. "A five-year-old could understand this," they claim. Curiously, though, when challenged, they often fire back with, "Apparently you're just too dumb to understand."

3. Claims of exclusion by the establishment. The Bullshitter complains that they are being systematically shut out by the mainstream in order to protect the status quo, and this is why their ideas don't take hold. They typically exhibit other paranoid behaviors.

4. Accusations of servitude to the establishment. If you call the Bullshitter on their bullshit, that automatically makes you a "pawn," "shill," "toadie," "TROLL," etc., of the establishment. You are being controlled by, or are actively working for, the government, big business, the Illuminati, etc. — thus rendering your opinion worthless. But that's probably because of the propaganda put out by the mysterious monolithic entity to keep the "sheeple" under control. The Bullshitter of course is immune to this, and can therefore see the situation with a clarity that you'll never understand.

5. Control of criticism or discourse. Bullshitters are all about wanting opinions to be heard — until you publicly try to voice your opinion that theirs is wrong. Then your comments are removed, you are blocked from posting, etc., if you were ever allowed to comment in the first place. Emotionally charged disruption ("shouting-over"), both verbal and written, is a common tactic, as their ideas maddeningly just do not break through, despite what seems to be overwhelming proof. In online discussions, the frustrated Bullshitter has all caps and WILL USE THEM, DAMMIT!


Best Regards

sXi
 
The guys i knew were a year above me and they all left high school in sept of 1978 they were all surfers and all headed up and lived with the hippies in mullum,They basically stayed up there and grew cannabis and surfed that was it they all started to migrate back down in the mid to late 80s due to the dramas up there.

They made trips back home to catch up with family and friends and i was first shown mullum buds in 79 and smoked it i was also told were it was being grown.

Guess who was really there, but sadly not here aymore.

Yeah m8.....I was doing the same surfing and growing MM and wiping people out. It was a super strong strain, origins unknown as far as I know, but well established for that time.....as you would know now that the seasons have changed up here and now rain comes late most times
I think you would mean the little power station near the turn off to Huonbrook, which is at the back of Mullum......I never saw the purple strain, sounds interesting.
I have tried to keep the strain going through all these years to the best of my ability and that was never helped by the raids, but the quality is still there:).......here is a pic of what I have grown for this year :)
 
It's is truly funny to read hempies responses. When ever someone has a different opinion or presents a different, but valid point, hempie resorts to calling them trolls and "here to ruin the site" as his only defense.

Hempie, you are now known as the laughing stock of the online canna community. You are the type of person I reference when teaching my children how to spot a fake.


For all the members, new and old, here is a piece I had my children read.


HOW TO SPOT A FAKE

1. Creation of a compelling alternative narrative. While in reality the subject matter requires education, dispassionate thinking, and nuance, in the Bullshit Syndrome this is replaced with a story that seems more like a film script — with heightened drama and intrigue, where some mysterious unseen entity is pulling the strings, typically with ulterior motives of control. These theories are an improvement on reality, where the narrative is more exciting, interesting, or comforting on a human emotional scale than the mainstream account. They may be popularized through grassroots propaganda materials.

2. Appeal to simple-mindedness and intuition. Since the subject matter is difficult and nuanced, the Bullshit version is made more palatable and graspable. This may explain why these people are much more certain of their convictions (to the point of insularity and tribalism) than their opponents; while most people are likely to admit mistakes or concede points, the Bullshitter concedes nothing. The Bullshitter presents child-like rhetorical questions that appeal to the desire for easy answers and comprehensive understanding, and tells us that the mainstream account just doesn't make sense. "A five-year-old could understand this," they claim. Curiously, though, when challenged, they often fire back with, "Apparently you're just too dumb to understand."

3. Claims of exclusion by the establishment. The Bullshitter complains that they are being systematically shut out by the mainstream in order to protect the status quo, and this is why their ideas don't take hold. They typically exhibit other paranoid behaviors.

4. Accusations of servitude to the establishment. If you call the Bullshitter on their bullshit, that automatically makes you a "pawn," "shill," "toadie," "TROLL," etc., of the establishment. You are being controlled by, or are actively working for, the government, big business, the Illuminati, etc. — thus rendering your opinion worthless. But that's probably because of the propaganda put out by the mysterious monolithic entity to keep the "sheeple" under control. The Bullshitter of course is immune to this, and can therefore see the situation with a clarity that you'll never understand.

5. Control of criticism or discourse. Bullshitters are all about wanting opinions to be heard — until you publicly try to voice your opinion that theirs is wrong. Then your comments are removed, you are blocked from posting, etc., if you were ever allowed to comment in the first place. Emotionally charged disruption ("shouting-over"), both verbal and written, is a common tactic, as their ideas maddeningly just do not break through, despite what seems to be overwhelming proof. In online discussions, the frustrated Bullshitter has all caps and WILL USE THEM, DAMMIT!


Best Regards

sXi

what an idiot you are and all coming from a guy that has no pictures in his gallery its rather strange that most of you who cause this drama have no pictures in your gallery's or have you ever done a grow thread in Mr nice.

You sativa at best are a newbie now i have more time for newbies normally as there the ones that need ow help the most but people like you dont deserve any ones time and whats worse is you some how think your above other growers you are honestly in a state of dilution.

Bob not picture and no grow threads.

biteme no pictures or grow threads.

And many more of these people also have no grow threads or pictures in there gallery's yet they act like there canna legends what looses you guys are.

What i am know for threw the canna community sativa is my noligue on growing and the plant its self and you can post all the bull shit you like no one can take that from me understand it and i have helped more growers in the decade i have been posting than all of you put together could ever hope to in the future you are all jokes harsh yes but its the gods honest truth.

I have grown pure Thia plants indoors and many haze hybrids also that make some peoples out door plants look poor i have grown out doors to and my understanding of sativas is second to no one.

I have smoked and even grown lines people like DJ shorts to this day raves about and he only smoked them once.

List goes on but you know what i see my self as an equal to all with in this site all i was in short was lucky to be around set people and live in a set location at a set time in history thats it.

So what if my school mates were up living with the hippies in mullum 1978 to the mid to late 80s and were growing the real mullum madness does it make me special hell no but i thort it was important for the historic info regarding this line but you know what screw all of you when i do get more info on it i will keep it to my self and if i get seed i will keep that to my self and close friends to.

You people have no idea who i know and what iv done and seen threw my life so far and do you really think i would post something thats not true please my handles not bob bitchin or sativaindica thats your style isnt it trolls.

You guys are pushing for this thread to be closed to now i wounder why that is ?.

You lot have worked relentless for almost 3 years to bring this site to its knees and you lot came close to archiving it but people are now fighting back and you lot are on notice that you will fail and you not me are known right threw this community as trolls with nothing to add but hate.
 
Guess who was really there, but sadly not here aymore.

Yes he was mate but my mates were there years before kanga was and they lived and grew with the hippies were the real mullum came from .

I will say kanga is one guy i respect and like very much a really nice guy that loves the plant also.

In the 80s the area were the mullum was the growers up there started to get harassed by law and it got so bad that many of my friends eventually left because of it many growers up there fanned out to other eras of the far north coast to.
 
Heres A TIP

If you ever smoked the real mullum and smoked a well selected potent haze expressive Neville's haze you would know that they smoke alike there is your answer so dont let people tell you other wise or that some strains found today are nothing like the strains of old.

The difference tho is the Neville's needs lots of selection to find the right plant the mullum was more stable due to the inbreeding.

Excellent, this is the type of insight I scour these boards for. If you search out hempy, Yosemite Sam, and Nevils posts you will find all sorts of nuggets just like this.
 
Excellent, this is the type of insight I scour these boards for. If you search out hempy, Yosemite Sam, and Nevils posts you will find all sorts of nuggets just like this.

Shows why people get such uniformity with the La Nina possibly? Long term inbreeding of the Mullum parent?
 
There's no one else on the boards like you, hempy. Thanks for coming back and sharing your knowledge/insight/experiences with us.

M.
 
Long term inbreeding of the Mullum parent?

same with haze, inbred since the 70s, by now past F12


skunk n haze were / are the only true inbred lines (even those known indicas arent that worked, exeptions are imported landraces timewise, but not by breeding standards)
 
these seeds are a smorgasborg of things ranging from blueberry sativa crosses, shark shock crosses, some haze hybrids, critical mass x haze. Not super sativa in the genetics but there is some nice haze and sativa genes mixed with some proven mr nice keepers. Basically just staring over after being imprisoned for cannabis and losing my favorite mothers.

Around 90 beans germed and put in coco.
 
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Carrots for dinner

Fresh and organic right out of the garden. Steamed then tossed with butter garlic pepper and herbs
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Im also smoking a turkey breast over mesqiute chunks. Some dumpling noodles and turkey gravy on the side.

Heres some of the crosses

 
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Looking good, doc! Starting stress testing early? I love getting ready for outdoors!! Oh, and here we go again with those damned carrots, lol!!!
 
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